Trump told bigoted white people who failed at life what they wanted to hear: that it wasn't their fault, it was THE ENEMIES plotting against them to make their lives crap. Exactly the same as Boris Johnson. Conspiracy theorism gone mainstream.

As I said earlier, even if he runs in 2024 I can't see him getting the Nomination. I think they'll go for Nikki Haley then. Pence won't get it either.

 

Mike Pence was essentially VP by accident because nobody else wanted to attach themselves to the ticket. I suspect any minimal amount of credibility he did have has well and truly evaporated these last 4 years.

Just got a batch of ballots in Arizona that will be disappointing for Trump. Trump wins by just 6 points in Maricopa County, out of almost 62,000 votes. He needed to win them by more like 20 points. Big news. I think Biden is the clear favorite in Arizona now.

 

Too early to call Arizona?

AP and Fox called it days ago, looking like they were correct

Mike Pence was essentially VP by accident because nobody else wanted to attach themselves to the ticket. I suspect any minimal amount of credibility he did have has well and truly evaporated these last 4 years.

 

 

He wasn't Trump's first choice by any means but a lot turned him down.

Yeah, it did look very risky at the time but seems to have proven correct. Georgia is almost certainly going to a recount and Nevada probably won't be called today either, but it's still looking good for 306.

 

Plus we have the Alaskan senate race to focus on next week as well (and North Carolina, but that seems like a done deal).

Trump told bigoted white people who failed at life what they wanted to hear: that it wasn't their fault, it was THE ENEMIES plotting against them to make their lives crap. Exactly the same as Boris Johnson. Conspiracy theorism gone mainstream.

 

I think you've hit upon the 6th sense there.

imagining one “count the vote” chant turning into “stop the count” for every .1% counted in AZ

Edited November 6, 20204 yr by dhwe

No way back for Trump in Nevada either..

 

We just got a big chunk (more than 30,000) of the almost 200,000 ballots that had been remaining to count in Nevada. And Biden won the batch, 66 percent to 31 percent. Given that it’s Trump who needs to make up ground in the state, that’s really bad for Republicans. Biden now leads statewide in Nevada by 1.8 percentage points, and if this batch was any indication, that lead may only grow from here.

Omg an election that went the way I wanted it too. I have forgotten how this feels.

I just hope Arizona and Nevada come through so it's a relatively clear result despite how close it was in the swing states, because that gives the orange thing even less grounds to complain. It really shouldn't have been this close anyway, it's a bit of a hollow win and scary to think what could've happened had there not been a pandemic! :mellow:

 

Definitely a victory for democracy, diversity and stamping out hatred though. I'm under no impression Biden will be a particularly strong president, but they can at least attempt to fix the issues and lessen these deep divisions and get the country back on track in time for the next election. I'm hoping beyond hope the Republicans can take a more centred tact as well and distance themselves completely from Trump. His influence is still there and it's not hyperbole to say that a lot of the world's problems over the last four years can be started and ended with him at the helm, I'm just praying that he falls in relevance now.

 

I'm most pleased for Kamala Harris, been a long time coming for a female in that position but a great one <3

 

Trump told bigoted white people who failed at life what they wanted to hear: that it wasn't their fault, it was THE ENEMIES plotting against them to make their lives crap. Exactly the same as Boris Johnson. Conspiracy theorism gone mainstream.

 

We were actually talking about this in our class today, and how it's eerily similar to that of the start of the 20th Century in Europe which led to the rise of the Nazis (right down to the Spanish flu!). Crazy how history can repeat itself so often.

Omg an election that went the way I wanted it too. I have forgotten how this feels.

 

It even makes up for Cicciolina and Me Tana

Biden's victory will, according to the BBC, make Boris more likely to seek an EU deal. He's cutting it a bit fine now.

Biden's victory will, according to the BBC, make Boris more likely to seek an EU deal. He's cutting it a bit fine now.

 

Yet more good news!

Besides the obvious of getting rid of a career criminal who actively made lives hard for millions of people, that was my main investment in this election - completely cutting off at the knees Boris Johnson's crazy alliance of lunacy with Donald Trump and forcing the UK to actually take Brexit seriously by losing default America - AND by gaining a US President who has strong ties to Ireland and won't let the UK fvck Irish people and NI over.

Not the media (apart from Decision Desk HQ) still being too cautious to call this. I assumed they were waiting for Biden to take the lead in Pennsylvania but even now they're still not doing it. Maybe when he gets out of recount margin there? :lol:

 

Trump gaining significantly below the pace he needs in the most recent updates from Arizona - at this point I'm pretty certain Biden is getting to 306 electoral votes, with a remote chance it could go even higher depending on how many votes there are left in North Carolina and the wildcard of Alaska.

Biden's victory will, according to the BBC, make Boris more likely to seek an EU deal. He's cutting it a bit fine now.

 

That was a given really. I mean do we really think the deal is being held up by bloody fishing, absolutely not. I suspect we will have a deal with the EU now with a couple of concessions. Obviously we want a trade deal with the US too. I suspect now it will all be about PR and timing.

An aside in Arizona: with Mark Kelly defeating Martha McSally in their Senate election, McSally has now caused 3 seats to flip blue there (she lost the state's other Senate seat to Kyrsten Sinema in 2018, and the House seat she vacated to run for that seat also flipped blue then). Maybe she can run for governor next.

If those most vocal Republicans weren't gun slinging IQ-of-60 rednecks and Karens who take the phrase 'fight for your rights' literally threatening and using physical violence then I would have much more respect for the party overall even if their views stayed the same.

 

After everything that humans went through to want war is absolutely psychotic.

 

Now Trumpism has failed electorally (yes Trump did get more votes than last time but managed to motivate through his divisiveness a massive increase in the Democrat electorate voting for Joe Biden), hopefully the Republican party will return back to the way it was before Trump again with less controversial and more sensible Mitt Romney and John McCain-type Republicans running for president.

 

And hopefully Donald Trump will be be persuaded by his party to concede defeat officially soon, given that the possibility of changing the result through lawsuits is said to be very unlikely.

Edited November 6, 20204 yr by Salty Melody

not sure what the mail-in vote dem/rep split is in north carolina but if it's anything like Pennsylvania's, biden still has a shot at NC imo with 6% still left to count and 77k separating the two