It’s a moot decision as the cases have fallen in NY sufficiently that those restrictions they were greeting about are now long gone.

regardless of how one may feel about bernie supporters, i've grown tired with this line of thinking that places the onus of this administration's policy failures on them and not ... the people who voted for trump, the party that enabled trump, the ghouls in the administration themselves. remember that hillary won the popular vote! in any other country with an electoral system that makes actual sense, she would have won, or at least it would have gone to a runoff. i don't fault people for not wanting to engage in an electoral system where a vote isn't simply a vote but instead an impression of a vote that will tell a smaller group of completely different people who to vote for, and where the state you live in determines how decisive your vote is, all for a candidate you don't even like.

Edited November 26, 20204 yr by dhwe

remember that hillary won the popular vote! in any other country with an electoral system that makes actual sense, she would have won, or at least it would have gone to a runoff.

 

Republican presidential candidates do seem very unlikely to ever win the popular vote again because of the high population numbers of the east and west coast blue states.

And again, maybe that's a sign that the Republican party should cease to exist in its current state rather than something to be used as an argument for keeping the ridiculous voting system that allows them to keep winning the White House without winning the actual vote x

And again, maybe that's a sign that the Republican party should cease to exist in its current state rather than something to be used as an argument for keeping the ridiculous voting system that allows them to keep winning the White House without winning the actual vote x

 

Democrat non progressives and Republican non Trumpists would still probably find it hard to compromise on issues like gun control, abortion laws etc. to form a party though!

^that's why you need to get 'liberty' loving Republicans who hate corporate Democrats in on Progressivism, which is more possible than you'd think because the political spectrum is not a straight line (or even a compass x)

 

regardless of how one may feel about bernie supporters, i've grown tired with this line of thinking that places the onus of this administration's policy failures on them and not ... the people who voted for trump, the party that enabled trump, the ghouls in the administration themselves. remember that hillary won the popular vote! in any other country with an electoral system that makes actual sense, she would have won, or at least it would have gone to a runoff. i don't fault people for not wanting to engage in an electoral system where a vote isn't simply a vote but instead an impression of a vote that will tell a smaller group of completely different people who to vote for, and where the state you live in determines how decisive your vote is, all for a candidate you don't even like.

 

exactly all of this! Bit weird to be blaming COVID deaths on the supporters of the only candidate committed to Medicare for All, most of whom gritted their teeth and voted for Hillary anyway, certainly less of them voted away from her than the independents who broke away from Democrat support because they saw her as a corrupt corpocrat (estimated 10-12% of Sanders supporters went for Trump and most of those were not registered Democrats so were hardly Hillary's votes anyway).

 

Biden spent so much time chasing NeverTrump Republicans only to be barely rewarded for his efforts, because they hate "establishment" Dems more than almost anything else - always talking down to you, treating them like children. Democrats like Pelosi, Hillary, Schumer are just really fundamentally unappealing to people outside the big cities.

 

this is all a bit "the left can't criticise Biden before the election, got to beat Trump" into "the left can't criticise Biden after the election, he hasn't done anything yet" into "the left can't criticise Biden now, the midterms are soon" into "the left can't criticise Harris now, the Republicans have nominated Fascist McEvilface".

 

your problem is not the left, it's the insane Republican base - and all of America needs change, not a return to the status quo. Before you can get rid of the Republicans, you need to do something about its base and if they can be swayed by right populism, they can be swayed by left populism, which actually fixes their issues and isn't under the auspices of a racist conspiracy-theory nutjob.

Trump has said he will leave the White House before Christmas if Biden is confirmed as President on Dec.14th by the Electoral College. He'll still be President though whether he likes it or not so any major decision would have to be made by him.

Powerful statement from Gabriel Sterling.

 

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Edited December 10, 20204 yr by Road Salt Mixer

I don't know who will win the Georgia senate run offs, I thought the Democrats would until recently because some Trump supporters would likely boycott it because of election fraud claims but Trump and the Republican Party seem to be trying hard now to get out of the self inflicted problem they created for the Republican supporter runoff turnout through the outlandish election fraud claims.

 

Will probably come down again to Atlanta voter turnout levels like the Georgia presidential election results were.

I don't know who will win the Georgia senate run offs, I thought the Democrats would until recently because some Trump supporters would likely boycott it because of election fraud claims

That was most definitely a ploy to confuse Dems and make them think it was going to be a safe victory/make people think they maybe don't have to vote.

The Electoral College meet later today to finalise the result of the election and finally end Trump's ludicrous attempts to subvert democracy.

Which also hopefully means I get paid out on all my remaining bets *.*

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One more of PeaceMob's horcruxes has been destroyed. Sad times... :D

Yeooooo!

 

Get him out!

I see next year Trump wants to buy GREENLAND. Yes, the whole island, for hotels, golf, etc. :rolleyes:

Isn’t it covered in snow like 11 months of the year, would be some golf course!

 

Also Denmark own it so they not?

Isn’t it covered in snow like 11 months of the year, would be some golf course!

 

Also Denmark own it so they not?

He’s probably confused by the name and thinks it is covered with lots of greens, perfect for golf.

😂

He’s probably confused by the name and thinks it is covered with lots of greens, perfect for golf.

 

LOL. Somebody tell him please. Or rather don't. :o