Yes but not convicted. That's the important part.

 

no it isn't, not when the Senate is partisan and will vote to save their own no matter their crime.

Yes but not convicted. That's the important part.

 

By a Republican senate who have shown they will vote for or support anything in their own self interest.

By a Republican senate who have shown they will vote for or support anything in their own self interest.

 

 

The history books will still show he was impeached but found not guilty, just like Clinton was. Like it or not, innocent until proven guilty my friends. :)

Edited November 2, 20204 yr by Sixth Sense

The history books also show that Bill Clinton was actually found 'not guilty' by multiple Republican senators as they had a 55-45 majority in the chamber at that time. There's a reason a criminal jury is comprised of impartial indivuduals with no connection or vested interest in the result - because they will be biased and partisan and the result called into question. It's fairly simple logic.

The history books also show that Bill Clinton was actually found 'not guilty' by multiple Republican senators as they had a 55-45 majority in the chamber at that time. There's a reason a criminal jury is comprised of impartial indivuduals with no connection or vested interest in the result - because they will be biased and partisan and the result called into question. It's fairly simple logic.

Yeah relying on the results of the impeachment because Trump’s friends say he’s not guilty is ... a choice.

Come on Trump. Four more years!

 

Watched one of his speeches online when he was at Butler, Pennsylvania at the weekend and it was fantastic. The crowds Trump pulls in is incredible but not surprising.

 

I mean watching online a few of his rallies now just out of interest (I never watched them before) and while content wise its like being in a fantasy world where Trump is overwhelmingly popular in America, and where there is 100% proof Joe Biden is a corrupt socialist who is over friendly with China, I have to admit Trump is a good speaker and is very good at getting his supporters hyped, the latter point better than Biden, and maybe Harris (Obama though is perhaps equally as good though at this) and yes the rally numbers attending look impressive, so I think the rallies are somewhat effective in that they make the president look popular. However when you consider the sheer amount of people there are in America, and the fact Biden/Harris/Obama's rallies are of course deliberately small because of Covid it doesn't look quite so popular.

 

The 400,000+ people who turned out for AOC playing a computer game online is also a big show of Democrat support (with the caveat that of course that was a bit less of a partisan political event). 'The silent majority support Trump' is a sign you often see in Trump rallies, but now I think its 'the silent majority support Biden', given that Trump supporters seem to be increasingly prouder to show their political affiliations than Biden supporters and independent voters seem more likely to swing to Biden in many places. On the subject of 'shy Trump voters' I have no doubt though it does exist, this recent article reposted by RealClearPolitics does hint at that https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/...dden-trump-vote however a 'shy Biden' vote is also likely to exist in majority Republican voting areas too https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020...rs-pennsylvania . The election result depends on which is a higher proportion. It is sad either way that people can feel threatened by their political affiliation if they are a political minority in an area.

 

I have watched Biden/Harris/Obama rallies too and agreed with most of what they were saying, apart from the fact they blamed Donald Trump for high current unemployment figures, when the pandemic itself is more responsible for that across the world than anything Donald Trump did.

Edited November 2, 20204 yr by Salty Melody

Yeah relying on the results of the impeachment because Trump’s friends say he’s not guilty is ... a choice.

 

 

I followed the case, and reasons for bringing it very closely, and anyone, even someone of very low intelligence, cold see that Trump had done nothing wrong. I looked objectively too, trying from a neutral point of view.

Crazy that Trump now seemingly has more chance of winning Nevada than keeping Wisconsin or Michigan - the poll average on fivethirtyeight I notice has narrowed a bit in Nevada but apparently there have been a lot of early voters in Nevada so I think it will stay blue, the Dems could do with another drive-in rally there to make sure though. An Ohio drive-in rally was a great move for them today - polls are very close in that state.

 

Trump as well as North Carolina and Pennsylvania, apparently two more rallies in Michigan and one in Wisconsin today, states that he has little chance of keeping according to the polls, strategically for him he would have been better going to Texas I reckon, where he hasn't done a rally in quite a while. Although the sensible people in Texas who are actually concerned about Covid spread at his rallies will be glad he hasn't.

Edited November 2, 20204 yr by Salty Melody

I followed the case, and reasons for bringing it very closely, and anyone, even someone of very low intelligence, cold see that Trump had done nothing wrong. I looked objectively too, trying from a neutral point of view.

Okay dot com

 

Objectively 😂😂😂

I followed the case, and reasons for bringing it very closely, and anyone, even someone of very low intelligence, cold see that Trump had done nothing wrong. I looked objectively too, trying from a neutral point of view.

 

I followed the case, and reasons for bringing it very closely, and only someone of very low intelligence, cold see that Trump had done nothing wrong.

Fixed that for you

So only 3 days to go. Is anyone else getting really uptight and nervous now?

 

Who's staying up all night? I'm not but will do like before and get up about 5-6. Last time Trump was declared to have won by the Networks at 7.30am UK time.

Yeah I'll be staying up for as long as I physically can or until a winner is declared which I hope will be on the night itself but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes beyond that due to the large amount of postal votes before election day. It should be interesting to follow either way, I will be mainly watching CNN but I'll flick occasionally to BBC news as well.

-Texas

-Hawaii

-Nevada

-Arizona

 

All have exceeded the 2016 turnout already !

The turnout in Texas is really encouraging. The new voters are supposedly breaking heavily for Biden as well. Biden winning Texas still feels like a big reach but it really could happen.

 

Karen!!

 

Karen!!

 

Revenge for how we've treated them, in the nicest manner possible.

 

God I want Texas to flip so bad. I'll let them have Iowa and Georgia, maybe even Ohio, just get Texas blue.

In the first official results of the election, Biden is so far winning unanimously, winning 100% of the vote in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire :cheer:

 

(that is, 5 votes to Trump's 0 - compared to 2016 when Clinton won 4 votes, Trump got 2, Gary Johnson got 1 and Mitt Romney got 1 as a write-in)

 

((yes I'm posting lighthearted nonsense stories to alleviate stress))

just in now, Harris Country election official said he will close 9 out 10 drive-through polling places after judge refused to toss out 127k early voting ballots :angry:

I've put £25 on Trump to win. I really, really hope he doesn't, but at least it will soften the horrific blow slightly if he does.

made my final prediction with a couple of variances that would give us a very dramatic night but one with a good result at the end of it (because one of the many reasons I want Texas to go blue is that it would completely stymie any of Trump's claims that the result was illegitimate, and my thinking is the high turnout and how well its trending):

 

lighter shading means closer result