The government are "lucky" we're in the middle of a pandemic as well with trade flows lower than they usually would've been. We would've likely seen significant disruption had there not been a pandemic.

Got a feeling this thread will have a theme over the next few months similar to the last page....

Got a feeling this thread will have a theme over the next few months similar to the last page....

 

Brexit seems to be affected Northern Ireland the most in terms of supply problems so far.

Brexit seems to be affected Northern Ireland the most in terms of supply problems so far.

Who would have thought that introducing customs controls for businesses wanting to move goods to another part of the country would cause a problem?

I’m sure it’ll be grand in the longer term the main people talking this up are unionist papers and the government who are opposed to the Irish Sea border and then the brass neck of the DUP saying SDLP SF & Alliance are to blame for the border!

 

I mean how do M&S in Dublin for example get products??

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How many things do we think are going to end up like this?

 

The bee-killing thing really rankles, bees are already a scarce part of the ecosystem and oversight to stop things like this happening in the name of profit motive was a good part of the EU's regulations.

 

But basically everything that will suit them.

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Making it difficult for EU and UK acts to tour in the UK/EU.

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Making it difficult for EU and UK acts to tour in the UK/EU.

It's the acts at the start of their career who will really suffer from this. Bigger acts can decide to absorb the cost but up-and-coming acts won't be able to. The cost of itemising every piece of equipment, every piece of merchandise etc. and having to account for what has happened to it will simply be too much. As touring is now the major source of income for musicians, this is a disaster for the UK music industry - as Remain campaigners warned, of course.

From The Mail. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-91...-fruit-veg.html

 

Fruit and veg. shortages start.

 

"Gaps are appearing on supermarket fruit and veg shelves amid warnings that supplies are being squeezed by Brexit red tape delays at ports and staff shortages at food producers due to Covid.

Lettuce, cauliflower packs, oranges, strawberries, raspberries and blueberries are listed as ‘out of stock’ in some areas on Tesco’s website while prepared carrots, cauliflower and broccoli were among the fruit and veg listed as being unavailable on Ocado’s.

The problem also at food production plants of staff going sick or needing to shield or self-isolate due to Covid is an issue for the entire food industry as well as Brexit, particularly chicken and red meat processors."

 

Meanwhile, food industry experts and the Cabinet minister with responsibility for Brexit, Michael Gove, have warned that problems at the ports are likely to escalate from today as the number of trucks going through Dover and the Channel Tunnel rises to normal levels after a New Year lull as the French step up enforcement of post-Brexit paperwork.

 

Freight expert John Shirley said: ‘The chaos has begun. Organising even the simplest load to Europe has become an almost impossible task due to the mountain of red tape brought in on January 1.’

The Road Haulage Association said there are already logjams and this situation will escalate when border controls with France are stepped up from today."

The group estimates that of the 2,000 outbound lorries a day through Dover and the Channel Tunnel last week, one in five were turned back.

It said problems will surge as these numbers increase to the normal 6,000 a day.

Its managing director for policy, Rod McKenzie, said: ‘Drivers are being turned back for a variety of reasons, including not having a valid Covid test. At the same time, they are being told the paperwork has not been done satisfactorily.

 

Mr Gove admitted: ‘In the weeks ahead, we expect there will be significant additional disruption.’

 

 

 

Asda and Morrisons customers reporting the same shortages, mainly fresh fruit and veg. from Europe.

 

There's also reports of shoppers going from supermarket to supermarket looking for fresh veg. they particularly want, and visiting 2 or 3 different places, when they should be out as short a time as possible due to Covid.

 

Any slight mistake in the paperwork and lorries are delayed by many hours apparently whilst corrected and not just waved through. :(

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It didn’t have to be this way.

I feel sorry for a Devon fisherman/fish exporter who was Tweeting that he'll have to close his business as he just can't keep up with the expanded paperwork any longer. He says he's not daft and perfectly intelligent enough to do it and had no problems before but some of it and some questions they ask are just ludicrous he says. He's a Brexiteer too but regrets his vote now. :( He and another exporter had £150,000 worth of fish go bad, joint cargo, with a delay with paperwork. Even one letter or word misprinted delays travel by what could be many hours.

Edited January 11, 20214 yr by common sense

If only someone had been pointing this out 5 years ago

This would all have been avoided by remaining in the single market, as promised, and adhering to thr split 50/50 vote with a soft exit.

I feel sorry for a Devon fisherman/fish exporter who was Tweeting that he'll have to close his business as he just can't keep up with the expanded paperwork any longer. He says he's not daft and perfectly intelligent enough to do it and had no problems before but some of it and some questions they ask are just ludicrous he says. He's a Brexiteer too but regrets his vote now. :( He and another exporter had £150,000 worth of fish go bad, joint cargo, with a delay with paperwork. Even one letter or word misprinted delays travel by what could be many hours.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

It didn’t have to be this way.

 

 

It could have been No Deal and much much worse though.

It could have been No Deal and much much worse though.

 

I suppose it’s ok as long as it’s just bad and not as bad as it could have been.

 

I feel sorry for a Devon fisherman/fish exporter who was Tweeting that he'll have to close his business as he just can't keep up with the expanded paperwork any longer. He says he's not daft and perfectly intelligent enough to do it and had no problems before but some of it and some questions they ask are just ludicrous he says. He's a Brexiteer too but regrets his vote now. :( He and another exporter had £150,000 worth of fish go bad, joint cargo, with a delay with paperwork. Even one letter or word misprinted delays travel by what could be many hours.

 

I can have sympathy that he has lost his business, but this is genuinely what is was always going to be like. Big companies can absorb the cost, but the man on the street gets screwed over. Everyone has been saying this for 3-4 years though and was dismissed as fear-mongering. This would be way more prevelant in the news if it were not for covid too.

I feel sorry for a Devon fisherman/fish exporter who was Tweeting that he'll have to close his business as he just can't keep up with the expanded paperwork any longer. He says he's not daft and perfectly intelligent enough to do it and had no problems before but some of it and some questions they ask are just ludicrous he says. He's a Brexiteer too but regrets his vote now. :( He and another exporter had £150,000 worth of fish go bad, joint cargo, with a delay with paperwork. Even one letter or word misprinted delays travel by what could be many hours.

 

Why do you feel sorry for him? Afterall you Brexiteers knew what you voting for didn't you? We warned you. This shouldn't be a suprise to you.

 

It's the acts at the start of their career who will really suffer from this. Bigger acts can decide to absorb the cost but up-and-coming acts won't be able to. The cost of itemising every piece of equipment, every piece of merchandise etc. and having to account for what has happened to it will simply be too much. As touring is now the major source of income for musicians, this is a disaster for the UK music industry - as Remain campaigners warned, of course.

Tim Burgess has an excellent article on this in the Independent today.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit...s-b1785657.html