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I just realised that Liverpool had the chance to do what has never been done before in Premier League history which is to win every home match in a season. Chelsea in 2005/06, Manchester United in 2010/11 and Manchester City in 2011/12 & 2018/19 won 18 matches at home but missed out on having a 100% home record by only 1 match.
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It's bizzare, it's rewarding failure. You can't claim to uphold the integrity if the league and then say no team should be relegated - what about the integrity of The Championship and to Leeds and West Brom, both of whom have had fantastic seasons. Just reeks of hypocrisy.

Teams entering and leaving the league is what keeps the league fresh along with new sets of players and like you said it would be rewarding failure if no team gets relegated but the season still gets played out in full. The intensity of the remaining matches wont be there either if there is nothing to play for. If you add not having fans in attendance to that then it will be like watching a group of people having a friendly kickabout in a park.

The only reason the Premier League might consider playing the rest of the matches but with no relegation has to be that they fear losing any court case that a relegated club might bring. Such are the consequences of having so much money involved.
Teams start the league on the assumption that each team will play every other team twice and that all teams will play the same number of games at home and away. In that sense, playing ALL remaining games on neutral grounds can be said to damage the integrity of the competition.

 

Tottenham played in two stadiums in one season. That's affecting the integrity by that logic. In theory every team loses their home advantage so it would even itself out. But I think it's a moot point anyway as even if there is a vote, 14 clubs would be in favour of restarting as more teams have a greater loss than a greater gain if the season is not played out.

Tottenham played in two stadiums in one season. That's affecting the integrity by that logic. In theory every team loses their home advantage so it would even itself out. But I think it's a moot point anyway as even if there is a vote, 14 clubs would be in favour of restarting as more teams have a greater loss than a greater gain if the season is not played out.

Tottenham played all their home matches "at home" and it was their decision to do so, not something imposed from above. Yes, all teams will lose home advantage for some games, but some will lose it for more than others. If the Premier League thought they had a watertight legal case, there is no reason why they would even consider having no relegation at the end of a completed season.

Tottenham played all their home matches "at home" and it was their decision to do so, not something imposed from above. Yes, all teams will lose home advantage for some games, but some will lose it for more than others. If the Premier League thought they had a watertight legal case, there is no reason why they would even consider having no relegation at the end of a completed season.

 

The point was more Spurs played "home" games at two different venues in 18/19. When in reality they should have just stayed at Wembley for the rest of the season.

 

For what it's worth I doubt the Premier League are even considering having no relegation, I think it's just something a few clubs have floated about. You remove the integrity of the Premier League by rewarding failure. Guess the biggest factor in all of this is the Villa vs Sheffield Utd game which has huge rammifications for relegation and Europe...

The point was more Spurs played "home" games at two different venues in 18/19. When in reality they should have just stayed at Wembley for the rest of the season.

 

For what it's worth I doubt the Premier League are even considering having no relegation, I think it's just something a few clubs have floated about. You remove the integrity of the Premier League by rewarding failure. Guess the biggest factor in all of this is the Villa vs Sheffield Utd game which has huge rammifications for relegation and Europe...

It only takes seven votes to block a proposal. If all clubs threatened with relegation vote against a proposal, it can’t happen. I agree that finishing the season but having no relegation is daft but the threat of legal action could mean it happens.

 

It’s not just the immediate financial hit to relegated clubs, it’s the consequences for their squad. For example, if Villa go down, there is next to no chance that Jack Grealish will stay. If they stay up, they might hold on to him. Losing their best player immediately makes it harder for them to get back up. Therefore, they are bound to explore any way of challenging the legitimacy of their relegation.

It only takes seven votes to block a proposal. If all clubs threatened with relegation vote against a proposal, it can’t happen. I agree that finishing the season but having no relegation is daft but the threat of legal action could mean it happens.

 

It’s not just the immediate financial hit to relegated clubs, it’s the consequences for their squad. For example, if Villa go down, there is next to no chance that Jack Grealish will stay. If they stay up, they might hold on to him. Losing their best player immediately makes it harder for them to get back up. Therefore, they are bound to explore any way of challenging the legitimacy of their relegation.

 

It looks like the bottom 6 clubs are trying to avoid restarting the season as best they can (West Ham being the most culpable- at least Brighton are being honest). It probably needs the Premier League to step in and say- if it's safe to play, you're playing. This is exactly what Bundesliga and La Liga have done as quite clearly the clubs at the bottom have more to lose if the season restarts. Although I challenge this logic as it's quite clear the season will not be voided, so I guess they are banking on the idea of less teams going down etc.

 

Probably inevitable this just accelerates all talk of a Super League happening. I used to think it was all pie in the sky stuff, but I genuinely think the entire model of the big leagues is under threat.

 

Someone's got to get restarted and someone's got to get promoted somewhere, so unless this happens there's going to be a lot of unhappy people. Guess we will see what happens on Monday..

Aston Villa chief executive Christian Purslow is against playing the remaining Premier League fixtures at neutral grounds to complete the season.

 

How do you expect it to finish then, Christian?

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Aston Villa chief executive Christian Purslow: "We're a club that prides itself on home form,"

 

"At the bottom end of the table there's a much smaller revenue base, but the risk of relegation is probably a £200m catastrophe for any club that mathematically could still go down," said Purslow.

 

"When you say to any club, 'we want you to agree to a bunch of rule changes that may make it more likely that you get relegated', they're not thinking about TV money, they're thinking, 'my goodness, am I going to agree to something that results in me being relegated and losing £200m?"'

 

 

The thing these people have to realise is that if you're not good enough to stay in the Premier League then relegation will catch up with you eventually. They are holding the league to ransom because they are scared of getting relegated but the fact is that even if no teams get relegated this season that wont be the case next season or in future seasons after that. So they wont be able to hide from this forever. As far as home form goes it's the fans in the stadium that make a team stronger at home, so in this current climate being at home wouldn't make any difference.

Aston Villa chief executive Christian Purslow: "We're a club that prides itself on home form,"

 

"At the bottom end of the table there's a much smaller revenue base, but the risk of relegation is probably a £200m catastrophe for any club that mathematically could still go down," said Purslow.

 

"When you say to any club, 'we want you to agree to a bunch of rule changes that may make it more likely that you get relegated', they're not thinking about TV money, they're thinking, 'my goodness, am I going to agree to something that results in me being relegated and losing £200m?"'

The thing these people have to realise is that if you're not good enough to stay in the Premier League then relegation will catch up with you eventually. They are holding the league to ransom because they are scared of getting relegated but the fact is that even if no teams get relegated this season that wont be the case next season or in future seasons after that. So they wont be able to hide from this forever. As far as home form goes it's the fans in the stadium that make a team stronger at home, so in this current climate being at home wouldn't make any difference.

 

Probably for the first time ever we agree on a football matter :o :lol:

 

If it’s safe to come back they have to come back. I get their arguments but so what? You can argue the same for the likes of Sheffield Utd, Wolves, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal etc. All in the race for a Champions League spot which is worth millions. It’s obvious there’s a larger agenda at ploy here as teams don’t want to be relegated. If you’re shit over 29 games and then continue to be bad when there’s neutral venues involved then you deserve to go down.

 

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If you filter the league table based on home fixtures then you'll see that it's the same teams that are at or near the bottom of the table and this includes Aston Villa who are ranked in 17th place. Southampton are actually bottom of the home table but are higher overall than the teams who are complaining about not having home advantage. The teams at the bottom of the table just haven't been good enough for almost the whole season.
Yeah what the heck is he talking about? Home Form is completely meaningless with no fans in the stadium! :lol:
Yeah what the heck is he talking about? Home Form is completely meaningless with no fans in the stadium! :lol:

 

I’m not sure about that. I’m convinced Bristol City’s rubbish home form would improve with no fans in the stadium tbh :lol:

Kyle Walker says he feels he is "being harassed" after it was reported he had broken social distancing rules again.
Watford have followed Brighton and Aston Villa in publicly opposing the use of neutral venues in the Premier League's proposed Project Restart plan.
Watford have followed Brighton and Aston Villa in publicly opposing the use of neutral venues in the Premier League's proposed Project Restart plan.

 

Love to know what their alternative solution is :lol:

The premier league will make sure it’s played whether it be played at neutral venues! I hope all three of these clubs get relegated now.
Love to know what their alternative solution is :lol:

 

Well, cancel the season would surely be their preference. Given there are only 6 teams realistically in a relegation scrap hopefully the other 14 force their hand and vote to resume the season

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I think the teams who are opposing this should just be kicked out of the Premier League and replaced with the top ranked teams in the Championship. They obviously are taking their Premier League status for granted and think they have a devine right to be in the league.

 

No team has a devine right to be in the league, if a team wins the league with 38 wins from 38 matches in one season but then finishes in 18th place in the following season they will still get relegated despite the perfect achievement from before.

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