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What about public transport, how do they stop buses getting crowded again at peak times both with schoolchildren on school buses and schoolchildren and other members of the public on normal buses?

 

It is advised that children do not use public transport unless absolutely necessary. That parents should drive them if they can which given how many people are still working from home should be feasible.

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But what it doesn't tell you is there were no symptoms and his blood had still developed what it needed to do to fight off the virus. Which is good as it shows there might be a longer lasting immunity to side effects than previously thought. So the good news is the immune response to the virus could be even lower than first expected. The bad news is, seemingly you can re-infect other people as you still carry the virus. Only one case out of millions, so it would be interesting to see if this is a pattern.

It did mention that the first time he caught it, he was symptomatic but the second time he caught it, he was asymptotic. This is why they say even if you’ve had it, you still have to follow guidelines such as wearing masks, social distancing etc

Government are trialing benefit claims for self-isolation at £13 a day. Seems way too low, not even sure who it's aimed at unless it's employers breaking minimum wage rules!

 

One other thing that has come to my attention is masks. It really does seem to be a correlation between richer/poorer areas in mask compliance. They are not cheap, so I do wonder if that is having an affect.

I really can't see how £13 per day is going to make much of a difference for people who cannot afford to stay off work.

 

I mean, I guess it is better than nothing. But I also feel that if the Government are serious about this being viable they need to make the wage live-able. I guess it's only a pilot for now.

1,500 cases today. The impact of wider testing? Or are we on the same trajectory as the rest of Europe? who knows..

 

My best guess is it is probably a little bit of both.

Probably more testing and mostly people who are asymptomatic or at lesser risk.

 

What's everyone's thoughts on compulsory mask wearing for children at schools? I'm not a fan myself, never mind them being statistically the least at risk but I think it'll be less hygienic. Can we really entrust a school full of children to follow mask guidelines by the book, what about in classrooms when they're supposedly allowed to remove them, where are they put then? Who's supplying this endless conveyor belt of masks? They'll be spending more time with dirty masks on in my opinion...

Looking at the ArcGis England data (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076) cases do seem to be spread quite widely across the country suggesting widespread community transmission, however hospital admissions for Covid-19 are in the tens- https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-uk-h...tal-admissions/

 

I guess most of the new cases *at the moment* are circulating in the young and relatively healthy, the testing is catching more of the actual true number of total UK cases, and those most vulnerable/susceptible have either sadly already been affected or are still shielding.

Probably more testing and mostly people who are asymptomatic or at lesser risk.

 

What's everyone's thoughts on compulsory mask wearing for children at schools? I'm not a fan myself, never mind them being statistically the least at risk but I think it'll be less hygienic. Can we really entrust a school full of children to follow mask guidelines by the book, what about in classrooms when they're supposedly allowed to remove them, where are they put then? Who's supplying this endless conveyor belt of masks? They'll be spending more time with dirty masks on in my opinion...

 

The masks in school is a bloody joke, because the expectation will be for teachers and the leaders of the school to enforce it. Sure it might be OK in the private schools, but nobody in Government or Civil Service have clearly ever visited a state school in a deprived area. It will be chaotic, loads of kids masks will get robbed and chucked on the top of gyms.

The rules in Scotland are that it’s mandatory and they expect and respect the high school students enough to do their civic duty and wear a mask (school buses included) but it is not expected that teachers and schools will enforce it (eg with suspensions for noncompliance)

 

Most kids will probably do it without must hassle.

 

 

 

German has stabilised case wise but the RKI is saying that around half of new cases are being detected at the border in folk arriving from Spain, Turkey et al

Making masks compulsory in schools is at least more sensible than one Tory MP's suggestion that they should be banned.

 

 

Schools should be banned? :o How ridiculous. :(

Wales have said it’s up to schools to decide whether to enforce masks. I don’t mind this as in our school Key Stage 3 will barely be moving around as they’re in the same classroom all day and we’ve got staggered breaks and lunches. Key Stage 4 still move around so maybe they will be asked to wear them but I imaging a few kids will be wearing them anyway. I’m hoping we won’t have to ‘enforce’ them because it’s a extra job for us that we don’t need right now as we are getting used to other ways of doing the things we’re already supposed to do.

 

I do hope they don’t get enforced in classrooms but if they do I’d hope I’d be able to use a visor instead. I’d have to go through about 10 masks a day or be constantly washing cloth ones every night, either way costing me a fortune. And I use my face so much when teaching it’d be rubbish if the kids couldn’t see it properly.

I would say the same applies for adults in terms of masks not being worn properly tbh

 

Ok so what if hospital admissions surge again in a few weeks?

I would say the same applies for adults in terms of masks not being worn properly tbh

 

Ok so what if hospital admissions surge again in a few weeks?

 

Who knows? They’ve said they won’t close schools and I think they’d be reluctant to close anything they’ve already reopened. Perhaps some local lockdown but those seem pretty useless.

 

We’ve been talking about a second wave for a while and yet it hasn’t arrived yet. I’m not sure we’d see anything like what we were seeing in March/April again. Half the time I don’t really know what to think about this virus. I’m on holiday in Aberystwyth right now and most people aren’t making any effort to social distance. Mainly tourists though, the kind of people who have never done a staycation before.

Yeh there doesn't seem to be the emergency of the early days and we've all been mixing a lot more since June. It's hard to know what factors contributed to the overall situation.
Who knows? They’ve said they won’t close schools and I think they’d be reluctant to close anything they’ve already reopened. Perhaps some local lockdown but those seem pretty useless.

 

The reopening of schools and its associated possible rising factor on the R rate should lead to restrictions or at least guidance to the public be even more careful about social distancing elsewhere in society to try and stop the R rate from getting too high.

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