Forever is #15 on the vinyl chart

#15 on Vinyl chart

#66 on Downloads chart

#73 on Sales chart

#78 on Physicals chart

 

Still waiting to find out if it made the top 200!

Well done everyone!

 

Kind of hoped that it would reach the Vinyl Top 10 though... ah well...

 

Where did GH and Spiceworld get to early this year?

Well done everyone!

 

Kind of hoped that it would reach the Vinyl Top 10 though... ah well...

 

Where did GH and Spiceworld get to early this year?

 

#6 Spiceworld but sold less copies than Forever.

 

We are in the run up to xmas and vinyl sales are obviously very strong.

 

I'm happy with the result, Forever on 4 charts, first time on the download chart and the 73rd most purchased album this week.

Glad to see it made 4 charts. Least it did something!

Sadly it didn't make the Top 200 :(

 

The #200 album sales ended up being 940... Forever sold 820. That was with 696 physicals, 87 downloads and 37 streaming sales. So I'm afraid to say that it was probably quite far off Top 200 in the end (we'll never know what the chart position is).

 

It's frustrating, because the earlier midweeks really didn't suggest that #200 was destined to achieve well over 900. I would have likely admitted defeat earlier in the week if it had been more apparent that we were fighting a losing battle. There's been many weeks this year where the #200 sold 800-ish copies, sometimes it's even less than that. It really seemed like we had a good chance of scraping the Top 200.

 

Two problems...

 

1) The vinyl needed more general interest. It literally only needed another 121 sales and it would have got Top 200! I guess the combination of it being 'Forever' (an underappreciated album) on a vinyl (an expensive format) inevitably made it a niche product.

 

2) Streaming. It's crazy how many streaming sales some albums generate... there's old albums that are managing hundreds, or even thousands of streaming sales a week. A 5 year old One Direction album had almost 1000 streaming sales and ended up placing at #154, despite not selling many pure copies (less than 100). That's hard to compete with, and sadly we can see Spice Girls' streaming is nowhere near that level, and their pure sales couldn't keep up with the popular streaming albums.

 

I'm trying not to be too disappointed. Forever making it into those 4 other charts is still a very nice achievement for an album as undeservedly maligned as Forever is!

 

It was great to see many people get into the spirit of the campaign and showed their support with purchasing and streaming. We really tried! :heart: I suppose if we learn something from this, it's that the album chart (particularly the lower positions) is really designed for albums that do well on streaming.

 

783 pure sales for Forever this week is more than some of those popular streaming albums will actually manage to *sell* in a whole year, so that's a silver lining.

 

One final note - although I don't know a new total for Forever, it's most definitely passed 273,000 as of this week. ^_^

I dont know why but I'm totally happy with 820 copies and the 4 charts it charted on. I'm sure it's revenue was so much higher than those albums with big streaming sales and Forever got a week in the limelight.

 

The fan base came together enough to make #66 on downloads and Forever is now out there on vinyl. Top 200 would have been amazing but it's not like it tanked or flopped it just didn't have tracks on playlists and get casual streams like people were listening to the radio.

 

For an album that sells 19 copies normal each week I'm happy.

 

Charting top 200 was the icing on hhe cake the process of the campaign and Forever getting lots of social media attention, downloads and increased streams was really the main point. Only us crazies care if it was #198 or #258

Still lurking in the iTunes chart! It's #626. It's probably only because it's a rolling chart, but still nice to see it there :lol:

 

It also reached #2 on 7Digital!

Still lurking in the iTunes chart! It's #626. It's probably only because it's a rolling chart, but still nice to see it there :lol:

 

It also reached #2 on 7Digital!

 

 

The power of my 7Digitial download :wub:

Well done everyone. It is clear that with support from the girls, it would have actually done much better but alas, it was a great fan initiative, if anything and it did really well considering the situation.

 

Hope that it means we get some extra good stuff in the future at least

It's always hard (for someone who saw them in their prime) to see something a handful fans went the extra mile for struggle to make the top two HUNDRED or fail to sell 900 copies but we tried, I guess. Times are what they are.

It's all just circumstance though, the GH picture disc did 2.5k vinyls release week in the UK but it was announced while they were 'active' touring.

 

It all has to be put into perspective, Forever does about 1k sales a year it did 820 in 7 days and will no doubt do a few more this week too.

 

It's all just circumstance though, the GH picture disc did 2.5k vinyls release week in the UK but it was announced while they were 'active' touring.

 

It all has to be put into perspective, Forever does about 1k sales a year it did 820 in 7 days and will no doubt do a few more this week too.

 

Absolutely, and also the original GH picture disk was announced as limited edition, which always makes it seem more like a priority to get + there was quite a bit of buzz around it because also they promoted it quite a lot via the group accounts and their individual ones.

I hope we get to see the vinyl in stores though. I cant wait to be back in England and go to a HMV to get another copy just for the pleasure of doing that ahah

Forever is at least in physical print now on vinyl so when/if they get their act together the next couple of years it can hopefully get some extra sales.

 

I'm pretty sure we got these vinyls because of the success of the GH picture disc. Since that was released in July 2019 we have had -

 

Spice white vinyl

Spiceworld black vinyl

GH black vinyl

Forever black vinyl

 

In a 16 month time span.

It's always hard (for someone who saw them in their prime) to see something a handful fans went the extra mile for struggle to make the top two HUNDRED or fail to sell 900 copies but we tried, I guess. Times are what they are.

 

 

Exactly this it was hard enough watching them falter in the 2000's onwards as solo acts but they were still achieving top 10s even half their success back then would be such a triumph today, that's why it was so wonderful to see Melanie get to #8 (and so frustrating Emma just missed out on #10) and why it was so exciting the prospect of Mel being featured on another #1 in a 4th decade.... Charts are not the be all and end all but it's sad to see how far they have fallen.

 

Look on the bright side they are at least doing much better than any other UK girl band as solo acts overall at lease.

Exactly this it was hard enough watching them falter in the 2000's onwards as solo acts but they were still achieving top 10s even half their success back then would be such a triumph today, that's why it was so wonderful to see Melanie get to #8 (and so frustrating Emma just missed out on #10) and why it was so exciting the prospect of Mel being featured on another #1 in a 4th decade.... Charts are not the be all and end all but it's sad to see how far they have fallen.

 

Look on the bright side they are at least doing much better than any other UK girl band as solo acts overall at lease.

 

For sure. But lets not forget this is a particular kind of release. If they had done proper promo for it OR if this was new music, the level of interest would have been much higher.

 

You cant compare that to the solo material releases: people will always gravitate more towards them as a group than as solo artists. Always. They just need to get their shit together on that and PROMOTE which they never do...

I've noticed that none of Mariah Carey's vinyl reissues have boosted her albums to re-enter the Top 200 (although The Emancipation of Mimi was showing in the midweeks, last week - lower down than Forever). Janet Jackson didn't see any of her albums re-enter either. So I suppose it shows that some vinyl reissues are really only going to be well received by a small but dedicated portion of a fan base.

 

I do wish more of my female faves would do better though. :cry: Sorry to bring gender into it, but recent reissue vinyl from Oasis, Coldplay and Paolo Nutini have done really well by comparison. Now I know you really cannot compare Forever to What's the Story Morning Glory ( :lol: ), but Paolo's Sunny Side Up colour vinyl has sold 1,300+ in a day, and that was already available on black vinyl... <_< Coldplay's Parachutes is of course a classic too, but it was available for years in black vinyl and still managed to sell almost 3.5k vinyl simply because it's pressed on yellow vinyl?? 'Spice' vinyl on white didn't even help it re-enter the Top 200 midweeks :nono:

 

:lol: Mini rant over x

I've noticed that none of Mariah Carey's vinyl reissues have boosted her albums to re-enter the Top 200 (although The Emancipation of Mimi was showing in the midweeks, last week - lower down than Forever). Janet Jackson didn't see any of her albums re-enter either. So I suppose it shows that some vinyl reissues are really only going to be well received by a small but dedicated portion of a fan base.

 

I do wish more of my female faves would do better though. :cry: Sorry to bring gender into it, but recent reissue vinyl from Oasis, Coldplay and Paolo Nutini have done really well by comparison. Now I know you really cannot compare Forever to What's the Story Morning Glory ( :lol: ), but Paolo's Sunny Side Up colour vinyl has sold 1,300+ in a day, and that was already available on black vinyl... <_< Coldplay's Parachutes is of course a classic too, but it was available for years in black vinyl and still managed to sell almost 3.5k vinyl simply because it's pressed on yellow vinyl?? 'Spice' vinyl on white didn't even help it re-enter the Top 200 midweeks :nono:

 

:lol: Mini rant over x

 

That *IS* interesting about Janet and Mariah actually and it makes me feel better about Forever's sales as at least Mariah's had A LOT of buzz arund them. I guess it makes me also more comfortable that we might see some new editions in the future since Forever even came out in the first place after Spiceworld and GH didnt do much numbers either (that we know of) and thus, it might very well be that the record company might put out a couple of releases every now and then regardless if it gets to the charts or not. My hunch is that they are ok with the numbers their vinyls are doing, even if they get to those numbers with time instead of in week 1...

 

Would be good to know numbers of sales of the vinyl editions of Spice, Spiceworld, GH and Forever. Some totals on those formats would be amazing to know...

 

Coldplay and Oasis are different beasts, that carried on releasing music and different editions of albums for ages, touring constantly, etc. Coldplay are technically still an active music-releasing band who just got nominated for another Grammy. which means their fanbase is used to BUY and STREAM. Spice Girls just abandoned everything from November 2000 and since then only reunited twice and in both times barely did much for their own music outside of the touring...

I'm sure the vinyls are much more than successful than we realise. Italy Amazon pushed Forever's vinyl back to Jan on the release week last week so a load of Italians on Spice circle ordered it from Amazon UK. Those sales are essentially lost as they won't count towards the UK chart as they ship to Italian addresses but won't count to the Italian charts as Amazon UK won't report sales to the Italian chart compiler.

 

Who knows how many sales slip through the net with things like that. It certainly seemed a lot of foreign fans ordered through UK Amazon with the date being pushed back else where. Which is probably why Forever looked to be doing so well on pre-orders on UK Amazon too.

Edited November 28, 20204 yr by sammy01