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Yes, all 43 :blink: of them. -_- What a disaster! I mean 43 countries?! That is FAR too many. 29 countries for the semi-final too, how long will that last? :lol:

 

Albania

Andorra

Armenia

Austria

Belarus

Belgium

Bosnia Herzegovina

Bulgaria

Croatia

Cyprus

Czech Republic

Denmark

Estonia

Finland

France

FYR Macedonia

Georgia

Germany

Greece

Hungary

Iceland

Ireland

Israel

Latvia

Lithuania

Malta

Moldova

Monaco

Montenegro

Netherlands

Norway

Poland

Portugal

Romania

Russia

Serbia

Slovenia

Spain

Sweden

Switzerland

Turkey

Ukraine

United Kingdom

 

So what do you think should be done about the ESC? I reckon scrap the semi and go back to how it was pre-2003. :arrr: But it'll never happen. -_-

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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24 in the final and Turkey have always been a part of Europe. :lol:
They should be put in groups of table just like the football, only the top 2 from each group can qualify
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They should be put in groups of table just like the football, only the top 2 from each group can qualify

They should. :( And all the Baltic countries should be in a group, as should the Balkans. ^_^ Well, it should all be done by area with the Big Four and last year's winner already qualified. :drink:

ooo What a GREAT idea! and only those in the final should be allowed to vote.. that would cut out political voting!

and turkey isn't or wasn't part of europe? i'm sure it wasn't :o

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ooo What a GREAT idea! and only those in the final should be allowed to vote.. that would cut out political voting!

and turkey isn't or wasn't part of europe? i'm sure it wasn't :o

Turkey has always been in Europe. :unsure: Israel hasn't and still aren't if that's who you are thinking of? And all of Turkey didn't used to be, only part of it I think.

There will only be 40 countries in the final list. The provisional list is just a list of all the countries who have officially applied. If none withdraw in the next month and all pay their fees, then sadly, under the ESC rules, Czech Republic, Georgia, and one of either Armenia, Bulgaria or Hungary will not be allowed to compete this year.

 

As for scrapping the semi-final, unfortunately, with so many countries this would be impossible. It would end up being only the top 5 or 6 being allowed in the next year with a complete turn around in the rest of the countries.

 

EDIT: Oops, I've just read the ESC Today article saying all countries will be allowed to participate...I had a strange feeling that might happen. Well 29 countries does seem to stretch the limits a little, but I still don't think there is enough cause or justification for an extra semi-final or some other extension just to accomodate 3 extra countries. I do think it would be a good idea to maybe let 12 countries progress to the final as opposed to 10.

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Sorry but I think having pools or groups is a terrible idea! Do you mean an individual heat for each group??
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Sorry but I think having pools or groups is a terrible idea! Do you mean an individual heat for each group??

Like this:

 

Group A

Sweden

Norway

Iceland

Ireland

 

Group B

Finland

Estonia

Latvia

Lithuania

 

Group C

Serbia

Croatia

Slovenia

Bosnia-Herzegovina

 

And so on... just let a couple from each group through, and go roughly by areas.

Like this:

 

Group A

Sweden

Norway

Iceland

Ireland

 

Group B

Finland

Estonia

Latvia

Lithuania

 

Group C

Serbia

Croatia

Slovenia

Bosnia-Herzegovina

 

And so on... just let a couple from each group through, and go roughly by areas.

 

Oh I see what you mean...yes that would be a pretty good idea - unless you mean having an individual contest for each of those groups!

 

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Oh I see what you mean...yes that would be a pretty good idea - unless you mean having an individual contest for each of those groups!

Haha :lol: no! Nah they'd just all be in one contest, voting as normal and just the top two from each group go through to the final.

 

Of course ideally there'd be no semi-final though. :( I'm still adamant the semi final/semi final voting is killing the contest! :arrr:

Haha :lol: no! Nah they'd just all be in one contest, voting as normal and just the top two from each group go through to the final.

 

Of course ideally there'd be no semi-final though. :( I'm still adamant the semi final/semi final voting is killing the contest! :arrr:

 

Fair enough. I suppose it's got to a point where the semi-final is nescessary, but any more would be just ludicrous

Turkey has always been in Europe. :unsure: Israel hasn't and still aren't if that's who you are thinking of? And all of Turkey didn't used to be, only part of it I think.

Morocco isn't Europe either, but they took part in 1980 as a member of the EBU. So theoretically even nations like Libya could participate if they wanted to...

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I can't understand why Israel are in there as it is in Africa.

Turkey is part Europe and part Asia

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I can't understand why Israel are in there as it is in Africa.

Turkey is part Europe and part Asia

Israel is in Asia. ^_^ And they're in the European Broadcasting Union which entitles them to participate.

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