I don't want to jinx it, but is the government actually going to succeed at something for once? Some much needed positive news in a week of bleak / grim stats in the UK.

 

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(also proves that outsourcing to the private sector is bad and this is what the NHS can achieve when it's allowed to do its job without the Tory chums interfering)

The media are complicit, and for such a serious topic like this there needs to be rigid journalistic standards adhered to where they are just an information source that promotes expert talking points.

 

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It was one year ago today that the first coronavirus topic was opened up here.

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...&hl=tianjin

 

Interesting looking back but we were all so naive in how long this would take to resolve.

 

The media have to take it extra seriously though if they hadn't have get across the message that not just older people are at risk there would have probably been more than the 564 deaths of under 40s that Jupiter quoted.

 

And that first thread on Buzzjack about the pandemic was originally called 'Wuhan Virus' and now only Donald Trump and his allies call it that! Not that it's bad to call it that as it did originally start in Wuhan after all at that market.

Trump calla it the China virus. Wuhan virus is a lot more catchy than SARSCOV2. Just like Zika, Ebola, Spanish Flu, Mexican Flu and even MERS were all named after the area they appeared in first

 

Everybody calls her Ms Rona around here anyway 🤡

The media have to take it extra seriously though if they hadn't have get across the message that not just older people are at risk there would have probably been more than the 564 deaths of under 40s that Jupiter quoted.

 

And that first thread on Buzzjack about the pandemic was originally called 'Wuhan Virus' and now only Donald Trump and his allies call it that! Not that it's bad to call it that as it did originally start in Wuhan after all at that market.

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And now the mad part if the people of Wuhan have been brainwashed to believe the virus did not even come from Wuhan or China, but offer absolutely no evidence for their claims. What I find interesting is more and more scientists are leaning to the fact that the virus was possibly in the Virology Labs. I don't think we're ever truly going to find out where the virus came from.

Trump calla it the China virus. Wuhan virus is a lot more catchy than SARSCOV2. Just like Zika, Ebola, Spanish Flu, Mexican Flu and even MERS were all named after the area they appeared in first

 

Everybody calls her Ms Rona around here anyway 🤡

Even though we now know that Spanish flu almost certainly did not start in Spain.

I don't want to jinx it, but is the government actually going to succeed at something for once? Some much needed positive news in a week of bleak / grim stats in the UK.

 

@1353013673862819849

 

(also proves that outsourcing to the private sector is bad and this is what the NHS can achieve when it's allowed to do its job without the Tory chums interfering)

There have been a few glitches but that is hardly surprising given the scale of the operation. In at least one case (the lack of vaccines available in London), the government has even acknowledged that there was an error and have acted to correct it.

 

I will be getting my second dose of a trial vaccine (or the placebo) on Wednesday. Judging by a piece in the Guardian today by someone taking part in another trial, when I get offered an approved vaccine (late March according to the predictor), I will be able to choose to be unblinded (i.e. told whether I have received the vaccine or a placebo) at that point to help me decide whether to accept the approved vaccine or not. If I have received the trial vaccine (meaning I am probably protected) then I will probably decline which means I will continue to help the trial. If I have had the placebo (meaning I would only be protected if I have had the virus without having any symptoms), I will probably accept the jab and, therefore, leave the trial.

Sky News have a report from Beirut where all hospitals are full to capacity and people are dying on trollies. They had a very strict lockdown enforced by troops but lifted it around Christmas. Now it's out of control. The Red Cross say they've never seen anything like it, even in other countries. :(

Wow a year already! I had a quick look back at the first couple of pages and it’s fair to say we made some posts that have aged like prison toilet wine.

 

Just reading these old posts and my fav was when the first two I’m cases came Iz saying don’t worry guys yous will be all set up to contain it, I’d say the uk and America are the opposite of that due to their neoliberal ideology!

Sky News have a report from Beirut where all hospitals are full to capacity and people are dying on trollies. They had a very strict lockdown enforced by troops but lifted it around Christmas. Now it's out of control. The Red Cross say they've never seen anything like it, even in other countries. :(

 

The situation in Manaus in Brazil though is supposed to be equally as bad. :(

 

 

 

 

 

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And now the mad part if the people of Wuhan have been brainwashed to believe the virus did not even come from Wuhan or China, but offer absolutely no evidence for their claims. What I find interesting is more and more scientists are leaning to the fact that the virus was possibly in the Virology Labs. I don't think we're ever truly going to find out where the virus came from.

 

I have heard that, too. It would explain certain properties of the virus, but thrn again it transmuting from a bat to another mammal and into humans, caused by being stored together in an exotic market, is also extremely plausible.

 

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And now the mad part if the people of Wuhan have been brainwashed to believe the virus did not even come from Wuhan or China, but offer absolutely no evidence for their claims. What I find interesting is more and more scientists are leaning to the fact that the virus was possibly in the Virology Labs. I don't think we're ever truly going to find out where the virus came from.

The more the Chinese government try and rewrite the facts and cover up, the more I think it was from a lab!

I have heard that, too. It would explain certain properties of the virus, but thrn again it transmuting from a bat to another mammal and into humans, caused by being stored together in an exotic market, is also extremely plausible.

 

 

The more the Chinese government try and rewrite the facts and cover up, the more I think it was from a lab!

 

I was totally against the theory too, but quite a few people who are not conspiracy theory nuts have posted some quite credible stuff. They reckon that the market was the first 'super spreading' event but they are not 100% sure that it actually originated there. The attitude from China since is just downright bizarre, which does make me suspect they are covering something up.

I was totally against the theory too, but quite a few people who are not conspiracy theory nuts have posted some quite credible stuff. They reckon that the market was the first 'super spreading' event but they are not 100% sure that it actually originated there. The attitude from China since is just downright bizarre, which does make me suspect they are covering something up.

 

China has been sus over it all, rejecting questions about the origins and trying to suggest it came from elsewhere when we were all watching as it spread in Wuhan first.

I thought that lab theory was just a conspiracy theory too, didn't know any scientists have backed up that theory.

Another 33k cases recorded today and 1300 deaths. I mean these figures are like this every day - how many of these I wonder end up in hospital?

Another 33k cases recorded today and 1300 deaths. I mean these figures are like this every day - how many of these I wonder end up in hospital?

 

Unfortunately probably a lot of them have caught it in hospital when they go in for something else not Covid related. That's the saddest for me, these are people who are probably doing all the distancing and sanitising but still end up with it.

Another 33k cases recorded today and 1300 deaths. I mean these figures are like this every day - how many of these I wonder end up in hospital?

 

There are ~4,000 people being hospitalised everyday. You can look up the stats and such here - https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

 

There are currently over 4,000 people on ventilators too which is almost 800 more than the previous peak last year and has continued creeping up day by day. Cases coming down won't be reflected in hopsitalsation/death rates for another week or two. Although hospitalisations do appear to have peaked/platued, with a peak of 4,563 people hospitalised on January 12th.

Thanks environment, why would the hospitalisations plateau when there’s still 33k new cases a day?

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Thanks environment, why would the hospitalisations plateau when there’s still 33k new cases a day?

 

I think the logic is that the current numbers in the hospital are when the numbers were at 50-60k cases per day. I think it will take a couple of weeks for the hospitalisation figures to go down, but it does appear as if we have passed the peak now.

 

The Times are running with schools back after Easter... I do honestly think the only way out of this is to lockdown until then and have the virus base as low as possible ready for late spring/summer. The virus is going to spread like wildfire in the <40 over the summer.

Unfortunately probably a lot of them have caught it in hospital when they go in for something else not Covid related. That's the saddest for me, these are people who are probably doing all the distancing and sanitising but still end up with it.

 

 

That's why I'm not going anywhere near the hospital at present. Need an X-Ray on my leg and my diabetic eye screening is overdue but have told them I'm just not going in the present climate.