January 27, 20214 yr If Corbyn had been PM over the last year god knows the media response. It certainly wouldn’t be the fawning we are seeing in today’s papers. Also saw a post on twitter saying the worst death rate per 100,000 in the world, economy is a mess and the only Tory to lose his job was Frank Lampard!!
January 27, 20214 yr I'm surprised every mention of "Johnson's trying his best" isn't met with: "Well, his best clearly isn't good enough, he should have resigned months ago and handed it over to someone who was willing to do better. 100,000. 100,000. And the papers that I've seen trying to evoke sympathy for him, despicable. Somewhat unfortunate that Labour was undergoing a leadership change at the most crucial time period, because otherwise the Labour leader could have called for a bipartisan response team, and it means that Starmer's been having to play catchup ever since, unable to fully criticise for fear of being divisive, and that's meant the Conservative responses have been ideological - most of the best responses across countries have been non-ideological and in close tandem with scientists.
January 27, 20214 yr If Corbyn had been PM over the last year god knows the media response. It certainly wouldn’t be the fawning we are seeing in today’s papers. Also saw a post on twitter saying the worst death rate per 100,000 in the world, economy is a mess and the only Tory to lose his job was Frank Lampard!! That honour officially still belongs to the ever incompetent Belgian government :lol:
January 27, 20214 yr Hahahaha your point still holds about antibiotics. That’s a real scary thing unless we can start to develop new ones or make use of phage treatments I'm just catching up because I've missed the last few pages, but I was gonna say the same thing as you. I've seen it mentioned on scientific articles more and more the last few years. But yeah, unless our government does something or there is another accidental discovery like Penicillin, the newspapers will actually have real reason to be scaremongering.
January 27, 20214 yr If Corbyn had been PM over the last year god knows the media response. It certainly wouldn’t be the fawning we are seeing in today’s papers. Also saw a post on twitter saying the worst death rate per 100,000 in the world, economy is a mess and the only Tory to lose his job was Frank Lampard!! Exactly what I was thinking, if it were anyone from Labour, there would be calls to remove them from office that would persist throughout. Corbyn probably would've been ousted by a coup :lol: PR masterclass from Boris there, I see it's already worked on a certain one of us.
January 27, 20214 yr Author @1354200940916699137 Who even buys newspapers? Owened by gammon, written by gammon, read by gammon.
January 27, 20214 yr The worst is when all this is said and done we are looking at 125,000 deaths probably before Spring. You could argue we got a bit unlucky with the new variant, which I would agree to some extent. However questions really need to be asked when the Government knew about it and why they allowed London back in to Tier 2 in December. There was such a clamor from business leaders and politicians to get a Christmas boost that it has ultimately cost us. That also said the pandemic has also highlighted the difference between the rich and poor in our country and who the huge equality differences, which have also played just as much as a part as age and obesity.
January 27, 20214 yr It should be taken for granted that the PM should be doing their best. I don't recall that excuse ever being used for a previous PM or, for that matter, any other minister without people screaming that their best clearly isn't good enough. Why is this blundering blob of flesh being allowed to get away with it?
January 27, 20214 yr The worst is when all this is said and done we are looking at 125,000 deaths probably before Spring. You could argue we got a bit unlucky with the new variant, which I would agree to some extent. However questions really need to be asked when the Government knew about it and why they allowed London back in to Tier 2 in December. There was such a clamor from business leaders and politicians to get a Christmas boost that it has ultimately cost us. That also said the pandemic has also highlighted the difference between the rich and poor in our country and who the huge equality differences, which have also played just as much as a part as age and obesity. The new variant seems to have been detected back in September which raises the possibility (no more than that based on current information) that it happened as a result of Sunak's restaurant discount scheme. It still isn't clear whether the UK authorities alerted the WHO etc. in a timely manner. If they didn't, that will make it rather harder for the UK to criticise China.
January 27, 20214 yr Exactly what I was thinking, if it were anyone from Labour, there would be calls to remove them from office that would persist throughout. Corbyn probably would've been ousted by a coup :lol: PR masterclass from Boris there, I see it's already worked on a certain one of us. @1354200940916699137 The masterclass is just getting the media to do all the work for you — you don't have to do anything really. If Corbyn had been PM over the last year god knows the media response. It certainly wouldn’t be the fawning we are seeing in today’s papers. Quite. It's hard not to roll my eyes, even in this thread, at the excuses and rationalisations made for ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS — especially when you know how they would have reacted had it been Corbyn or Labour.
January 27, 20214 yr I disagree that we are „unlucky“ with the new variant. The new variant emerged as an indirect result of Government policy. Look at places where the virus has been running unchecked: South Africa, Brazil, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy. All of these countries have their own strains. The Spanish strain is the current dominant strain in the EU having emerged in the Summer when the entire continent descended on the costa del sleaze for their annual week of debauchery in the sun. The fact is that the greater the prevalence of the virus, the more it mutates. And so, by allowing it to run rampant unchecked through the country by force of sheer incompetence the UK gov created the fertile environment for the virus to mutate into its current form. As long as a country continues to experience high rates of community transmission like in ZA, BR and GB then we will continue to see new mutations of corona that could over time become more deadly as well as more infectious. You don’t have a Australian variant or a Vietnamese one, simply because these countries have had an effective response and driven an elimination strategy that ensures there is no environment for mutations to easily and readily occur. TLDR - the UK Gov alone is responsible for the new variant as it’s a direct consequence of their lack of action
January 27, 20214 yr Exactly what I was thinking, if it were anyone from Labour, there would be calls to remove them from office that would persist throughout. Corbyn probably would've been ousted by a coup :lol: PR masterclass from Boris there, I see it's already worked on a certain one of us. Yip even the questioning from Laura Keunsberg yday was ‘when are the schools going to open then?’ Instead of the still 20k plus cases and 1000 deaths ffs Mental how the death rate has doubled since November. Edited January 27, 20214 yr by steve201
January 27, 20214 yr The governments Chief minister for propaganda is hardly gonna ask a tough question tho is she?
January 27, 20214 yr I disagree that we are „unlucky“ with the new variant. The new variant emerged as an indirect result of Government policy. Look at places where the virus has been running unchecked: South Africa, Brazil, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy. All of these countries have their own strains. The Spanish strain is the current dominant strain in the EU having emerged in the Summer when the entire continent descended on the costa del sleaze for their annual week of debauchery in the sun. The fact is that the greater the prevalence of the virus, the more it mutates. And so, by allowing it to run rampant unchecked through the country by force of sheer incompetence the UK gov created the fertile environment for the virus to mutate into its current form. As long as a country continues to experience high rates of community transmission like in ZA, BR and GB then we will continue to see new mutations of corona that could over time become more deadly as well as more infectious. You don’t have a Australian variant or a Vietnamese one, simply because these countries have had an effective response and driven an elimination strategy that ensures there is no environment for mutations to easily and readily occur. TLDR - the UK Gov alone is responsible for the new variant as it’s a direct consequence of their lack of action Spot. On.
January 27, 20214 yr The governments Chief minister for propaganda is hardly gonna ask a tough question tho is she? Exactly
January 27, 20214 yr The clear attack on schools that began this week clearly hasn’t been enough to paper over this. Schools are just yet another thing that this government (and the devolved governments) got horribly wrong.
January 27, 20214 yr Just seen Boris announcing Schools won't be back until 8th march at the earliest (if its safe to do so) so that probably means shut until after Easter :lol: Also we are apparently getting a "road map" out of lockdown at the end of February. Edited January 27, 20214 yr by BrookeOlivia
January 27, 20214 yr Just seen Boris announcing Schools won't be back until 8th march at the earliest (if its safe to do so) so that probably means shut until after Easter :lol: Also we are apparently getting a "road map" out of lockdown at the end of February. Whatever happened to plans? :angry:
January 27, 20214 yr I had my second dose of either the trial (Johnson & Johnson) drug or the placebo today. While I was waiting for the 15-minutre observation period to end, I was having a (socially distanced) chat with a couple other volunteers. That included a discussion on what we plan to do when we are offered an approved vaccine. The other two were a similar age to me so can expect that invitation around the first half of March. When that time comes, we can talk to the people running the study and be told whether we have had the vaccine or the placebo. Our initial thoughts were that we would accept the vaccine if we had been given the placebo. However, we then thought that, if everybody given the placebo does the same, the trial will ultimately become useless because it relies on being able to compare the two groups. If you were in this position, what would you do?
Create an account or sign in to comment