By far the biggest jump in vaccinations yet in today's daily figures (just under 600k) - now nearly 9m having received their first dose in the UK.

 

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You are like mdh used to be on the coronavirus threads, a bit too hopeful! :D

 

Yeah I believe it is slightly hopeful too. It looks as if the 7 day average is about 24,000 for this week - I think this could steadily go down, but with the new variant I suspect it will be more of a struggle.

 

I'm sure someone from PHE said the vaccination programme should being to show fruition in 2 weeks. I've seen a model and it looks like it is already having an affect.. but I suspect the key measurement going forward out of this lockdown will be hospitalisations.

 

The interesting part about vaccinations will come out this week, journals are starting to show evidence that the UK rollout of single shot vaccines is having an effect and the single shot doesage is still building immunity after one month, which if true, is absolutely massive for a global scale.

The Netherlands has suddenly found 120k vaccinations that weren't yetreported by the doctors :cheeseblock:

This country is such a mess when it comes to counting our shit this pandemic. They will now be counting all the vaccinations that have been shipped out for use by hospitals, doctors etc

The Netherlands has suddenly found 120k vaccinations that weren't yetreported by the doctors :cheeseblock:

This country is such a mess when it comes to counting our shit this pandemic. They will now be counting all the vaccinations that have been shipped out for use by hospitals, doctors etc

 

Are they vaccinations yet to be used and if so, are they still in date, stored correctly and available for use?

Are they vaccinations yet to be used and if so, are they still in date, stored correctly and available for use?

Of course they are? I'm not sure what you're expecting lmao

 

Edit: Oh I grt your confusion. By found I dont mean they were lost, just that they had been used for vaccinations but the numbers were't reported to the government yet so the vaccination count wasn't up to date

Oh OK thanks for the clarification. I think I saw on the news a report of some unused vaccines I think in the UK somewhere, that must have been left out for too long or something and couldn't be used now which is sad.

Oh OK thanks for the clarification. I think I saw on the news a report of some unused vaccines I think in the UK somewhere, that must have been left out for too long or something and couldn't be used now which is sad.

They've been trying to avoid having to throw unused vaccines away, even if that means giving it to people not in the priority groups. I did, though, read about a centre that had been told they couldn't start on people under 70 even though they had spare vaccines after getting to the end of the list of over 70s. If that is true, I hope it is an isolated cock-up rather than actual policy.

Cases are plummeting so fast. :o I genuinely think we could be below 10K daily cases at the end of February. It's amazing how quickly they're falling.

 

Australia closed down with 5 cases this week because 5 can turn into 5000 very quickly. We need zero Covid this time to put a lid on it and flight controls until the vaccination process is well underway.

By far the biggest jump in vaccinations yet in today's daily figures (just under 600k) - now nearly 9m having received their first dose in the UK.

 

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Great news. Without any foreseeable weather disruption, I wonder how high the numbers will go this upcoming week. Hopefully they will consistently be aorund the 400-600k mark.

 

With the current lockdown restrictions and ongoing vaccination success, we should hopefully see things improve a lot come mid-late February. Hopsital admissions have been falling quite a lot the last week or so and the overall number of patients in hospitals has started falling over the last few days or so. Additionally the amount of people on ventillators appears to be falling the last few days as well.

Australia closed down with 5 cases this week because 5 can turn into 5000 very quickly. We need zero Covid this time to put a lid on it and flight controls until the vaccination process is well underway.

Britain is just 2-3 weeks from achieving a level of vaccination that would protect the pool of 15m vulnerable people from which 90% of Covid deaths occur than it is to reaching zero Covid, which is too difficult and costly to achieve when we're now dealing with a virus that's much less severe. It will hopefully also spread much less with herd immunity achieved through vaccination, though the jury is still out on that aspect.

 

Covid will be around for years but it will be much less dangerous in countries that have vaccinated their population.

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The sheer grip that poppies and war veterans have over the public that Sir Tom Moore (who, I genuinely respect and admired) can go to Barbados with his family for Christmas and put others at risk and STILL have mass media attention and the public begging to introduce a 'Clap for Tom' tonight due to him catching Covid, when if this was a young person or another celebrity they'd be crucified. :lol:

 

The fact people are excusing the trip and saying he 'deserved' it is mind boggling. Isn't every desperate for a holiday? Don't we all deserve one? At the very least, all the NHS staff and key workers? What makes him so special?

In all fairness, Captain Tom broke no rules in having that holiday. It was misguided but all completely within the rules at the time. Though I have issues with his family who I do feel exploit him and what he did, I can’t be angry at the man himself. At 100 years old, this situation will be scary enough for him.

 

I’m not up for a clap but I wasn’t for the clap for carers either. A lot of these young people and celebrities who ‘wouldn’t get away with it’ didn’t because they actually broke the rules. Tom did not.

 

And no matter how much of a bop Anywhere is, Captain Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rita Ora

In all fairness, Captain Tom broke no rules in having that holiday. It was misguided but all completely within the rules at the time. Though I have issues with his family who I do feel exploit him and what he did, I can’t be angry at the man himself. At 100 years old, this situation will be scary enough for him.

 

I’m not up for a clap but I wasn’t for the clap for carers either. A lot of these young people and celebrities who ‘wouldn’t get away with it’ didn’t because they actually broke the rules. Tom did not.

 

And no matter how much of a bop Anywhere is, Captain Tom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rita Ora

I get your point but personal responsibility is extremely important - regardless of what the rules are at that particular time. Just because you're legally able to go to Barbados doesn't mean you should take a 100 year old man through a busy airport, on a plane and back (there were pictures posted that he didn't even wear a mask) when everyone else is taking the option to spend Christmas alone to protect others.

 

If he had introduced a new strain to either country because of his travel then how many people could he have killed?

I get your point but personal responsibility is extremely important - regardless of what the rules are at that particular time. Just because you're legally able to go to Barbados doesn't mean you should take a 100 year old man through a busy airport, on a plane and back (there were pictures posted that he didn't even wear a mask) when everyone else is taking the option to spend Christmas alone to protect others.

 

If he had introduced a new strain to either country because of his travel then how many people could he have killed?

 

But they flew out on December 11th. Over a week before the Christmas plans were changed. No, it wasn’t the best thing to do but is that any reason to have no sympathy for someone aged 100 in hospital with COVID? At least they admittedly went for a holiday, it’s very different to these influencers claiming that they’re out there for work and their followers need to see them having a good time.

 

It seems highly more likely that he caught COVID from a family member at home once returned to the colder climate. He’s also got pneumonia.

 

I’m just not sure what you’re trying to do by drumming up hate. It’s quite hard to take your outrage seriously given that a month ago you were pedalling conspiracy theories on here.

 

I guess I’m wondering what happened to compassion?

I get your point but personal responsibility is extremely important - regardless of what the rules are at that particular time. Just because you're legally able to go to Barbados doesn't mean you should take a 100 year old man through a busy airport, on a plane and back (there were pictures posted that he didn't even wear a mask) when everyone else is taking the option to spend Christmas alone to protect others.

 

If he had introduced a new strain to either country because of his travel then how many people could he have killed?

 

Not that I am sticking up the guy here, but he could have been one of the people exempt from mask wearing because it could effect his breathing. Let's be honest he's a 100 years old, he's going to die shortly. The likes of that selfish brat on This Morning who said influencers were key workers should be the ones getting any negative sort of attention. Yes he probably should not have gone, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. I suspect his pneumonia and covid is nothing to do with going to Barbados.

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Why is it OK for him to go abroad for a family holiday in December when Dua Lipa got totally vilified for that?

Why is it OK for him to go abroad for a family holiday in December when Dua Lipa got totally vilified for that?

 

Should she have been vilified though? People are seething when people break the rules but are then also seething when people follow the rules but not in the way they want them to. I think it was poor choice by Captain Tom’s family to go on that holiday but I also don’t see why certain people are desperate to vilify him. Go for his family I say as they seem like a bunch of opportunists who clearly drove the idea of going away. But to complain about people being sympathetic to a 100 year old man who could basically die in the next week seems so off.

I don't honestly think it was a good idea for anyone to go on holiday at Christmas especially with how cases were constantly spiralling. I do ofc. heavily sympathise and hope he gets better, and it wasn't like those thick influencers that were willingly breaking the rules, but this kind of angry response to anyone even slightly saying that it wasn't well advised is the sort of nationalist, military loving attitude that I hate. No one should be totally exempt from criticism (or over-criticised for something someone else was not criticised for).

But they flew out on December 11th. Over a week before the Christmas plans were changed. No, it wasn’t the best thing to do but is that any reason to have no sympathy for someone aged 100 in hospital with COVID? At least they admittedly went for a holiday, it’s very different to these influencers claiming that they’re out there for work and their followers need to see them having a good time.

 

It seems highly more likely that he caught COVID from a family member at home once returned to the colder climate. He’s also got pneumonia.

 

I’m just not sure what you’re trying to do by drumming up hate. It’s quite hard to take your outrage seriously given that a month ago you were pedalling conspiracy theories on here.

 

I guess I’m wondering what happened to compassion?

1. Who says I don't have sympathy for him? I wouldn't wish Covid on anyone.

2. Surely if he went all year without catching Covid from his family then he travels across the globe to Barbados (through a busy airport and on a plane and mixing with residents there) and he suddenly catches it, the evidence points to the trip being the cause?

3. Giving someone criticism and treating them like a regular human being isn't 'drumming up hate'. Is he above questioning or criticism?

 

So what you're basically saying is forget the fact he went on holiday at Christmas because he's a poor old man and 'at least he was honest'? Okay, how would you feel if this was a story about a random member of the public doing the same?

 

And I have to laugh at you commenting about compassion when you're supporting a man potentially spreading a virus around Barbados and/or bringing a new strain back to the UK that could kill people off. :lol: