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Monza is very Friendly to overtakes so that could be good but there’s a solid safety car potential there as well which could ruin a few weekends
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Red Bull have formally requested the stewards review the incident at Silverstone. As a consequence both drivers have been summoned tp appear before the stewards on Thursday at 4pm via a video link.

 

This is only allowed if Red Bull can provide new and significant information so I'm interested to see what comes of this. I imagine their case rests on the acknowledgment that Lewis was 'predominantly' at fault and that the punishment too lenient given it took Max out of that race, has cost the team £1.3m and will almost certainly cost Verstappen again in a future GP as the engine damage will force a change much sooner than was previously needed. They may also highlight Hamilton's recent record of poorly executed moves on Alex Albon.

 

I don't think they seriously expect the result to be changed although they might hope for extra points on Hamilton's license, I think they're simply going for disrupting Mercedes' weekend in Hungary.

 

It's also worth remembering that Mercedes (both Toto and James) said they had lots of evidence to exonerate Hamilton of any blame but have made no moves at all to do so following the result, perhaps suggesting it wasn't that solid and they're fearful of incriminating him further and that the 2 penalty points he earned was a lucky escape

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Red Bull just need to get over this and move on. Punishments are not given out based on what happens subsequently but what the actual incident was. They've got sour grapes cos Lewis won the race but if he'd have retired as well (or even just finished in a mediocre position) they would have done nothing further despite the "offence" being exactly the same. I think you're right in that they're still licking their wounds and at least want to attempt to give Mercedes a little more grief for what it's worth.

 

There isn't really any more evidence to obtain given the incident has been replayed and reanalysed to death now.

Whilst I'm of the opinion it should have been a 10 second stop and go I agree Red Bull should move on. I am curious though in what new evidence they claim to have. For the FIA to even agree to a meeting means there must be something new or significant to discuss,. Although I expect the evidence is frivolous it would be very unlike the FIA to call a meeting just to draw a line under it.

Im all for the mind games. Merc and Hamilton have been playing these games for years. It’s about time someone took them both down half a million pegs

 

 

But the penalty was weak as shit. Max could have died. The punishment should reflect that fact. 51G crash on the fastest corner on the calendar.

I know it's technically allowed by the rules but deliberately denying another driver an attempt at their final qualifying run is unsporting behaviour and should be addressed by the stewards.

 

 

I don't care what Hamilton says either, his body language clearly showed the booing rattled him a bit.

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That was brilliant haha. They should have either a) sent them out before Merc or b) overtook them on the outlap. Not like Perez was any threat at all to the top 3, lucky he didn't fall behind Lando & Gasly if anything.

 

Max has to take the lead into turn 1 on the softs or its game over for him.

I know I’ve said it before but he is a bad sportsman. He cannot handle competition in the slightest and has to resort to being dirty to stay ahead. The least deserving world champion. The fact that people think he’s some form of goat honestly makes me sick. He lacks the mental strength or good sportsmanship required of a goat. And I don’t mean mental strength in a me Tal health way I mean that the slightest bit of pressure or competition and he completely crumbles with mistakes and unsportsmanlike behaviour. He is a weak human.

 

He ain’t fit to walk within 1000 miles of the actual goats

Yet both Senna and Schumacher did far worse things on track including intentionally driving into their rivals. The win at all costs mentality is exactly what separates the good from the elites imo.

 

I'm sure everyone would have been cheering had Max done the same to Mercedes. This added spice is making it one of the best title fights in memory.

Yet both Senna and Schumacher did far worse things on track including intentionally driving into their rivals. The win at all costs mentality is exactly what separates the good from the elites imo.

 

I'm sure everyone would have been cheering had Max done the same to Mercedes. This added spice is making it one of the best title fights in memory.

Thankfully that kind of behaviour has been dealt with and those incidents remain as black marks against both drivers. That they are still held in such high regard is testament to their talents.

 

Elite drivers like Fangio, Moss, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Mansell, Hakkinen etc never resorted to those kind of tactics so it's not that simple.

 

The Dutch and the anti-Lewis brigade might have cheered that behaviour but most sporting fans wouldn't. I don't think there should be a penalty but it's distasteful.

 

Although Rosberg has just said it took Lewis 1 minute 51 seconds to complete the circuit whilst the guideline is 20 seconds less so they might look at it.

Although Rosberg has just said it took Lewis 1 minute 51 seconds to complete the circuit whilst the guideline is 20 seconds less so they might look at it.

 

Sky Germany reported it was his quickest outlap in qualifying. If there was a problem with such a pace, then he should have been warned about it far sooner. Ultimately he was only reacting to the pace of the car in front of him. Granted, that was the other Mercedes so doesn't really change anything but it's not really Hamilton's doing.

 

As with at Silverstone, it's a problem Red Bull could have avoided quite simply. Maybe they should have spent more time focusing on this race rather than the last one.

His final lap was 2.3 seconds slower than his pole time. That’s. Yeah that’s a lot. Like a suspicious amount.

 

He’s come out to say there was no gamesmanship involved but anyone who believes that should contact me because I have a Nigerian prince that would like to meet them.

He wants that seat next year! :lol: Stroll was even worse with the late breaking, would be interesting to see how much chaos he'd have caused if Bottas hadn't messed up too...

 

Ham/Merc f***ed it with the tyres, has to be between Ocon and Vettel at this track. Praying for Russell points

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He wants that seat next year! :lol: Stroll was even worse with the late breaking, would be interesting to see how much chaos he'd have caused if Bottas hadn't messed up too...

 

Ham/Merc f***ed it with the tyres, has to be between Ocon and Vettel at this track. Praying for Russell points

can't see Russel points now :(

 

10 laps in and already one of the juiciest races in a while

 

max's car defo not gonna hold up tho ganhh

It's a shame it's not more of an overtaking track where this has happened - although I guess not such a shame if you're Ocon, Vettel or Latiffi

 

This is the most stressed and anxious watching a Grand Prix I’ve been in like over a f***ing decade. Not even this stressed last year when we landed Three podiums

 

 

Alpine have a very real chance here. 30 laps to hold off. At least we should be able to cling on to a podium. Ocon in the Right place at the Right Time during Bottas‘s moment of pure f***ing insanity. So so so well planned and played out by both Alpine and The Green Merc

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