Very self-centred attitude to take Craig....

 

But unfortunately you're just typical of most of this country... Seems far more shocking to us that a few dozen people get blown up on July 7th 2005 and we dont seem to give a sh!t about the 20-odd thousand WE bloody murdered in Iraq and the continuing chaos and civil war which is of OUR making.... <_< <_< I dont see any commemorations or politicians hand-wringing for the "Shock and Awe" massacre we and the Yanks committed on the Iraqi people.....

 

Picochet was an evil, murdering b/astard, may he rot in hell and may Thatcher and Jack Straw rot in hell for helping him escape justice.... <_< I dont give a fukk about the Falklands (and trying to imply he was a 'good man' just because he helped Thatcher win a war and win a second term in office is pretty fukked up Craig..), the islanders could easily have just left and come back to Britain....

 

I have on dozens of occasions condemned Shock and Awe and have done so vigorously on this thread and dozens of other threads on this board and others but at the end of the day I will remember Pinochet more for what he did in the Falklands/Malvinas conflict than what he did to his own people, there is probably not a single world leader that has not got some blood on his hands and Pinochet is no exception, the leaders of every country in Africa have killed several times more thousands than Pinochet did as did Bush and Blair and the Chinese leader and every single Middle Eastern leader and so on, Pinochet's 3000 deaths put him probably in the lower reaches of the Top 75 world leaders of the last 15 years death toll wise

I have on dozens of occasions condemned Shock and Awe and have done so vigorously on this thread and dozens of other threads on this board and others but at the end of the day I will remember Pinochet more for what he did in the Falklands/Malvinas conflict than what he did to his own people, there is probably not a single world leader that has not got some blood on his hands and Pinochet is no exception, the leaders of every country in Africa have killed several times more thousands than Pinochet did as did Bush and Blair and the Chinese leader and every single Middle Eastern leader and so on, Pinochet's 3000 deaths put him probably in the lower reaches of the Top 75 world leaders of the last 15 years death toll wise

 

tbh i dont understand why you should support him, he has got blood on his hands... directly as he ordered who should be taken out, he tortured people, and he is certainly one of the worlds most evil men of recent times. idi amin, mugabe, yeah they arnt much better but it doesnt excuse pinochet. maybe its because thatcher was idolising the bstd that you support him.. but she was no better.

tbh i dont understand why you should support him, he has got blood on his hands... directly as he ordered who should be taken out, he tortured people, and he is certainly one of the worlds most evil men of recent times. idi amin, mugabe, yeah they arnt much better but it doesnt excuse pinochet. maybe its because thatcher was idolising the bstd that you support him.. but she was no better.

 

I am not saying Pinochet was a nice guy, indeed he has blood on his hands but I am comparing like with like, Britain has a lot of blood on its hands too, Blair with his role in Iraq war and from financing the Indonesian regime which is responsible for atrocities in East Timor, likewise Bush, Maggie and Reagan have blood on their hands from financing Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein as they were strategic to fight against communism, John Howard has blood on his hands, Putin has huge amounts of blood on his hands, Chirac has blood on his hands from the endless years of bankrolling Saddam Hussein, Pinochet was a bad guy but I just think he has not killed directly or indirectly as many people as some leaders right in our own backyard or supposed close allies of ours

All dictators should be treated alike, is it right that Pinochet should have been chained to a hospital bed in London by police while in the very same year there were state visits to the UK by Robert Mugabe who is one of the most evil leaders since Hitler and Ziang Jemin of China who killed nearly as many in one incident in Tiannamen Square as Pinochet killed throughout his entire rule ?? instead of being wined and dined by the Queen and Blair those 2 should have been in cells but Pinochet was chained up because he was not useful to us whereas Mugabe and Jemin were :rolleyes:

maybe its because thatcher was idolising the bstd that you support him

 

Just noticed this bit :o you couldn't be more wrong, there were many things in Maggie's reign that I did not approve of such as the homosexuality clauses, the abolition of the democratically elected GLC however repugnant I found Livingstone and other things too, I was not particularly in favour of the Falklands/Malvinas conflict either but I balance it up as a capitalist against a number of good things that she did and felt she was the right person to be prime minister of this country, I voted for her every election but I did not blindly follow every policy of hers like a nodding dog :)

 

All dictators should be treated alike, is it right that Pinochet should have been chained to a hospital bed in London by police while in the very same year there were state visits to the UK by Robert Mugabe who is one of the most evil leaders since Hitler and Ziang Jemin of China who killed nearly as many in one incident in Tiannamen Square as Pinochet killed throughout his entire rule ?? instead of being wined and dined by the Queen and Blair those 2 should have been in cells but Pinochet was chained up because he was not useful to us whereas Mugabe and Jemin were :rolleyes:

 

 

ill give you that.... agreed.