July 2, 20241 yr This new attack line for Starmer is possibly the most clutching at straws I've ever seen, there is no person in the world that should be expected to not have at least some downtime outside of their occupation to prioritise their own wellbeing. I'd question the mindset of anyone that thinks otherwise.
July 2, 20241 yr There are some highly amusing predictions on social media. They include the Tories just winning more seats than the Lib Dems but, just for a laugh, a group of Labour MPs defect to the Lib Dems and Ed Davey becomes LOTO :lol:
July 2, 20241 yr Author Thought Jonny Mercer attacking his opponents military record was low? How about canvassers in Torbay suggesting Lib Dem candidate isn't blind an uses his guide dog for political purposes? Can't wait to see this lot decimated on Thursday night.
July 2, 20241 yr There are some highly amusing predictions on social media. They include the Tories just winning more seats than the Lib Dems but, just for a laugh, a group of Labour MPs defect to the Lib Dems and Ed Davey becomes LOTO :lol: Omg. :lol: Honestly wouldn't blame any Labour MPs doing that to kick the conservatives out of the opposition!
July 2, 20241 yr This is embarrassing https://x.com/rishisunak/status/1808154255410217293?s=46 I know it’s realistic but Labour having a 200 or 300 majority isn’t really much different so what motivation is that for Tory voters?
July 2, 20241 yr We love to see the Conservative leader conceding defeat 36 hours before the polls even open. and of course it does make no difference, the screwed-up Westminster system is even generally more stable and effective with a large majority even if the effect becomes ever more marginal beyond a majority of 80-100, and all data I've seen on it indicates that the Conservatives spreading this message is actually driving more voters over to Labour to be on the winning team etc.
July 2, 20241 yr Author This is embarrassing https://x.com/rishisunak/status/1808154255410217293?s=46 I know it’s realistic but Labour having a 200 or 300 majority isn’t really much different so what motivation is that for Tory voters? That might be the earliest a PM has ever conceded defeat in an election campaign. They normally at least act like they're going to at least be competitive until the polls close. Not to mention there's no such thing as a supermajority. If the PM himself has already conceded he isn't going to win what motive is their for the few left to support him to go out and vote for him? It's pissing against the wind.
July 2, 20241 yr That might be the earliest a PM has ever conceded defeat in an election campaign. They normally at least act like they're going to at least be competitive until the polls close. Not to mention there's no such thing as a supermajority. If the PM himself has already conceded he isn't going to win what motive is their for the few left to support him to go out and vote for him? It's pissing against the wind. Indeed. The term supermajority refers to the requirement that something more than a simple majority is required for something to be passed. For example, many organisations require two-thirds of members to vote in favour of a change to their constitution for it to be passed. There is nothing that requires a two-thirds vote in parliament.
July 3, 20241 yr Author Mel Stride has been wheeled out this morning and says the polls 'are pointing to the largest Labour majority ever seen.' That's a rather self-serving analysis of the polls from the Tories. You can see the groundwork for their election night narrative already being put into place 'it's not the biggest landslide ever, Labour aren't living up to expectations and we've done better than expected by curtailing the size of their majority.' It's desperate stuff from the Tories as always.. Hopefully Labour get 500 seats and make them utterly irrelevant.
July 3, 20241 yr Author Labour being far more measured with their attempts to motivate their voter base. Genuine concern that Reform could win seats in areas where Labour would be expected to win. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/articl...-midlands-seats
July 3, 20241 yr @1808502108859121889 You know when the Tories are over when even The Sun supports Labour (although a bit desperate)
July 3, 20241 yr Really tempted to grab a bottle of wine for tomorrow, stay up as late as I can and watch the carnage unfold. It'll be like Eurovision all over again (except slightly less political)
July 3, 20241 yr Author I was hoping to catch my seat then go to bed as I figured it would be an early declaration being in the north east. Just seen on the declaration times list it's set for 2.30am. announcement, guess it's an all nighter.
July 3, 20241 yr Author Anyone else think Debboinaire could lose in Bristol to the green leader? It's definitely a possibility. I see Starmer has completely ruled out joining the EU. That will surely give many confidence to vote for him but I'm sure many like myself might be less inclined to vote for him on that basis. Anyway with less than 12 hours to go until polling stations open I'm not sure it'll move the needle much in either direction.
July 3, 20241 yr Anyone else think Debboinaire could lose in Bristol to the green leader? Probably. Which is a shame as she would be a culture secretary focused on music and the arts (as someone whose background is a classical cellist) even if she is quite centrist for Labour. Which is a side of the culture brief desperately needing attention and backing from the government. But then she could still perform that role from the Lords if necessary. More Green MPs would be welcome, however.
July 3, 20241 yr It's definitely a possibility. I see Starmer has completely ruled out joining the EU. That will surely give many confidence to vote for him but I'm sure many like myself might be less inclined to vote for him on that basis. Anyway with less than 12 hours to go until polling stations open I'm not sure it'll move the needle much in either direction. Doesn't mean to say it won't happen in the future. Brexit is shit, but we have to look at the optics here - Labour saying they want to re-join the EU just pushes the electorate to whatever Reform/Conservatives become. 'Get Brexit Done' worked in the end as so many people (and businesses) just wanted the certainity to be able to plan. I think that debate is 10 years away yet.
July 3, 20241 yr Anyone else think Debboinaire could lose in Bristol to the green leader? I’d say it’s quite likely. Unfortunately, she is one of relatively few Shadow ministers to have genuine experience in her department. It is, of course, possible that Starmer could simply move her to the Lords.
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