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There is a definite pattern with seals albums viz

 

Studio albums

1991 Seal (ZTT/Sire Records) #1 UK

1994 Seal (ZTT Zang Tuum Tumb) #1 UK, #15 U.S., #25 Germany

1998 Human Being (Sire Records) #44 UK, #22 US, #24 Germany

2001 Togetherland (album)- Unreleased

2003 Seal IV (Sire Records) #4 UK, #3 US, #5 France, #2 Germany

2007 System (Warner Bros. Records)

 

[edit] Live & compilation albums

Togetherland was never released because the record label werent happy with it.

 

Just wondered if D thinks along the same lines with the gaps.

 

Seal also released 'Live in Paris' in 2003 but that was not a studio album.

I said earlier that he had trouble with his record company. Not so. It was

a big court case over money he owed his ex manager [commission on two albums]

....Seal lost the case.

Seal is six feet three and a half inmches tall.....he still has to look up at Darius!

It may work if he'd had 2 #1s before it. I just need the media to let me know why they blacked D's records. Until that's sorted, it'd be very hard for him.

Quote meg - It may work if he'd had 2 #1s before it. I just need the media to let me know why they blacked D's records. Until that's sorted, it'd be very hard for him.

 

My feeling is that it wouldnt matter how good his next offering is, they wont play it, outside of SC artistes these days you dont get a look in. His promotion and media machine bulldozes ahead of everything. Someone who was at the xfactor last week sat within 4ft of SC and said that max clifford was in and out whispering in SCS ear all the time. My feeling also is that if an artiste outside of theirs looks a threat their media machine clicks into gear and downrodes them. Does reject or flop come to mind. (I mean why would the press or media use that expression for someone who has had five top ten hits otherwise). I dont think D will leave 19 because of the label connection.

well money talks and these big players have everyone in their control..a case of if you don't do this..you wont have access to..whatever big star is also on their labels, or the other way..you can only play this artist IF you also take this one etc. Bob Geldof talked about this in an interview also, saying many a time the label could control what the media took or played by wielding big artists that were under their control as levers.

BMG/Sony has a lot of control..they got in trouble in the US for buying, bribing and playing unfair with the radio stations didnt they? I dont beleive labels and the men in black did it out there yet dont do it here..

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" It's all about control "

 

I wonder if the reviewer who thought Mockingbird was a kick at SC, knew all about the way Simon allegedly works and believed Darius did too. At the time, I just thought what an idiot the journalist was, to imagine such a thing about that song.

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As far as I'm concerned, nothing positive ever comes out of worrying, other than worrying in the sense of super detailed planning.
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If there's nothing one can change there's no case for worrying.

 

Isn't there a complicated well known piece about the futility of worrying? Something's niggling at the back of my mind.

 

I think I'm mixing up two sources - one's a prayer about change and the other is about the only worry being whether you live or die or something.

I dont think I worry but it niggles me to bits what is going on in the business with the result that talented people are trod on.

 

There is a thread on ROTD

It is about -Soulja Boy "Crank That" shaping up to be massive and maybe challenge X Factor for the top slot. The dance business reminds me of a 2007 Urban version of Black Lace's "Superman"

 

On a global level it will outsell UK X-factor 5 or 10 /1. It's not great, however it is certainly better than any of the abysmal X-Factor contestants. All of which wouldn't even cut the mustard at my locals karaoke.This seasons finalists make Darius look like Dylan ffs! (No Msg) -- BBDD -- Wed/21/11

 

I know I can be thick but what does that last post mean exactly. If its what I think it means the posters discussing the xfactor are quite right except for the one I have already mentioned with the fantastic voice. Trouble is these posters dont really see any further than the end of a drumstick. They said a similar thing about Katie melhua yet her latest album has done well.

 

Don't you think that it brings us back to not the most able, but the most publicised.

The 'management' men saw an opportunity to make money out of the popular music industry,and soon

realised that the optimum returns were to be made on a swift turnabout. Bring new singers into the public eye,

give them their fifteen minutes of fame, then replace them with new stock before the financial profit dwindled.

Which brings us back to the fast public consumerism nowadays, not just in the music industry but in most

areas.I feel that the media [newspapers, magazines,T.V. radio etc] have a lot to answer for because they

shape and feed the public's hunger for the latest fad.

 

Can anyone open a new topic ? Me for instance.

Not yet, Meg. I should have opened a new one for D's Facebook page, but wasn't sure about it.

And anyway, the fanfare for my maiden speech isn't ready yet!

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