Precisely why an emo board is needed - they really shouldn't be on this board at all. This is probably the last place, dance excepting, I would stick an MCR topic.

 

Emo is really an offshoot of "Alternative" though, so this kinda is the only place for it, it didn't always used to be this crappy though.... At one point (mainly mid-90s) there were some really good Emo bands....

 

Take it back - My Chemical Romance would put themselves in punk / metal rather than here.

 

Yeah man i think that they will do that too. However its the whole problem of the genre areas are you gonna think of genres and what people think of genres per urban tribes and styles, or are you just gonna try and get a forum area to one or two people's taste. theres not enough forum areas to fully map out all the different sub-genres and tribal interests.

 

anyway indie vs rock probably just boils down to the mods vs rockers thing from 40 years ago and one ended up inventing Oasis and dadrock the other MCR and emo. MCR look out of place next to very twee stuff (even if critics are saying the new single sounds like Bryan Adams worst).

 

it is laughable esp when left in the punk area you've got Fightstar, (previous pop-punkers) Sum 41 and Fightstar. Obv itsone rule for one and not for another.

 

i think this should go in the punk / metal and then let the vicious critism rage. it is an entertainment discusson area not just a fricking love in.

 

Once again we need a board for emo...

 

man i tried. man i tried, i've done rock in general, modern rock etc etc.

 

 

it is laughable esp when left in the punk area you've got Fightstar, (previous pop-punkers) Sum 41 and Fightstar. Obv itsone rule for one and not for another.

 

Personally, I dont really want Fightstar in there either.... Grunge-lite bollocks.... Almost as bad as Nickleback, Creed, Puddle of Mudd and all those other sh!tty North American bands who just watered down the likes of Tad, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, etc....

 

The particular tracks that were posted by Chapstik have a certain amount of Metally-ness to them, so they've more right to be there....

Personally, I dont really want Fightstar in there either.... Grunge-lite bollocks.... Almost as bad as Nickleback, Creed, Puddle of Mudd and all those other sh!tty North American bands who just watered down the likes of Tad, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, etc....

 

The particular tracks that were posted by Chapstik have a certain amount of Metally-ness to them, so they've more right to be there....

 

well in one respect its good that you want that area to be totally the more extreme ultra hardcore area of the metal spectrum, but metal on the whole can be seen as wider than that encompassing a much larger and perhaps $h!tter genre aspects.

 

however i suppose you cant have it both ways and have one ultra exclusive and here having anything. thats why i think that MCR should be moved to pop with bon jovi, linkin park and nickelback as obv they are not alternative. they are the mainstream

well in one respect its good that you want that area to be totally the more extreme ultra hardcore area of the metal spectrum, but metal on the whole can be seen as wider than that encompassing a much larger and perhaps $h!tter genre aspects.

 

I dont consider the likes of Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest, etc to be particularly "ultra hardcore".... They're just 'Metal' bands..... I cant stand Manowar or Dream Evil, but I certainly would never argue that a Manowar or Dream Evil thread shouldn't be in the Metal Forum, it would be a ludicrous thing to state in any case.... But it should be incredibly obvious to anyone that bands like My Chemical Romance are NOT Metal... Not even slightly.... And I dont give a sh!t how many cover stories rags like fukkin' Kerrang!! give them....

 

I would hardly call them 'emo', like Fall out boy(once my favourite band) they are complete sell outs,their previous album was far better before they changed their style to become popular and to be honest i cant really stand them or Fall Out Boy,even one of my friends who is really into 'pop' (he likes britney,xtina ect and doesnt like any indie,emo bands) bought their recent single. :puke2:

I dont consider the likes of Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest, etc to be particularly "ultra hardcore".... They're just 'Metal' bands.....

 

Neither would I. Actually I think Judas Priest to be quite funny when they come on the hits with Breaking the law, and actually I think Metallica were Q for Quiet in the hits Metal ABC. I was just trying to make a definition without naming bands of the kind of things you all may want in there towards the things (that are now in the pop area) that you do not the ultra mainstreem cheese. Just trying to get the vibe across without being pedantic about it. Argeeably genres are flexible things there is no right or wrong and in many cases one definition for another can be used and one definition gets superceeded when something else comes out or a definition dated from the 1970s to now etc etc whether you wanna use heavy blues, hard rock, metal, classic rock. the point is if the indie area is gonna be so totally wide and full of tricky, portishead, air, 1995 britpop, the thrills, twee stuff etc etc shouldnt the metal/punk area for the sake of two mcr threads and maybe one nickelback be as wide as well. you can always slag them off it is an entertainment discussion ffs site not a 'lets all worship the rock god and have Austin Winkler's babies site!!!!!

 

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