Posted April 6, 200718 yr When aked to reveal their idea of musical hell in the Indepedent this moring Kai Fish of the Mystery Jets said: I know exactly what it would be. There's a band called DragonForce - put them in YouTube. It's just the most ludicrous thing you've ever witnessed in your life, the most extreme cheese metal. They have this battle of guitar solos. One guy is doing a 3,000 mile-an-hour guitar solo, then he takes a sip of beer and the other one swooshes his hair back and starts playing. Our producer showed it to us as what we shouldn't be doing. I don't think it's a parody - they're a really serious band, apparently. I think they think it's really cool, it's the ultimate metal look, the coolest thing ever. Metal is one of the genres of music as a band we're not into. We're very open to lots of different music, but it's one thing we always find hard to take seriously. The emphasis is on how fast you can play a riff or how hard you can hit the drums. It's become such a pastiche now. It hasn't evolved at all. You always have new offshoots, new developments, new artists trying to bring a new spin on it. With a lot of metal artists it's just about completely bringing back what's already been done. Do you agree? Has Metal evolved at all? Can you have Metal as an valid cultural artform? or is it all the same old boring stuff rehashed over and over again :o meanwhile Alan Donohoe of the Rakes replied: "I would hate to be stuck in a lift with a band called the Murderdolls. They're a second project from Slipknot. They vomit and p*** in their costumes every night, then put them back in their wardrobe for the next night. The crew have to flip a coin to see who's going to get it out. I've only heard Slipknot. I can only assume that the stuff by Murderdolls is going to be similar heavy metal stuff, with a complete lack of melody. It's so aggressive and negative - I don't get why anyone can be so negative. You can't really hear the lyrics - I sound like such an old granddad now. My mate was telling me that they were guys in their forties with families and stuff. They're managers by day, Satanists by night".
April 6, 200718 yr The Mystery fukkin' Jets are ones to talk about 'not evolving'.... I've never heard a more p***-weak excuse for an Indie band in all my life... They haven't an original bone in their bodies.... If you ask me, they're probably just jealous that they cant play to that level of musical skill themselves... I know Herman, one of the guys from Dragonforce, and he's told me that what they do IS just about having fun and entertaining people, I dont think they do actually take themselves seriously at all tbh because he constantly slags off bands that take themselves too seriously... As for Metal not evolving - what a crock of sh!t.... Obviously they've never even bothered to listen to Tool, System of a Down, Korn, Machine Head, Appolyon Sun, My Ruin, Slipknot, or those on the margins of Metal/Alternative like Deftones, A Perfect Circle, Smashing Pumpkins, Evanescence, Jack Off Jill, etc... One word for him - Tw@t....
April 7, 200718 yr Can't denounce a whole genre...and Mystery Jets haven't done anything to excite me yet...and probably won't.
April 7, 200718 yr Can't denounce a whole genre... I dunno mate - I mean "Manufactured Pop"....? :puke2:
April 7, 200718 yr But I like some of Bucks Fizz's stuff. :lol: :lol: Oh dear... You've sorta blown your cool factor a bit by admitting that one mate... Oh well, I suppose everyone's got a guilty pleasure... :P :lol: Aint gonna tell you mine though... :lol:
April 7, 200718 yr Mystery Jets haven't done anything to excite me yet...and probably won't. Exactly mate, the day they come up with an album as compelling, musically adventurous and classic as "Master of Puppets", "Aenima", "Toxicity" or "White Pony" will be the day I'll eat my hat....
April 7, 200718 yr urgh it's naieve bull$h!t like this that i hate.... by the sounds of it these f*** heads haven't done their homework... bunch of w****rs.
April 7, 200718 yr When aked to reveal their idea of musical hell in the Indepedent this moring Kai Fish of the Mystery Jets said: I know exactly what it would be. There's a band called DragonForce - put them in YouTube. It's just the most ludicrous thing you've ever witnessed in your life, the most extreme cheese metal. They have this battle of guitar solos. One guy is doing a 3,000 mile-an-hour guitar solo, then he takes a sip of beer and the other one swooshes his hair back and starts playing. Our producer showed it to us as what we shouldn't be doing. Dragonforce-Through The Fire And Flames <span style="color:#A0522D">-36HTROVH-4</span> 3:39 in (from 1:30 to go) one guy takes sips of beer. :lol: I don't think this is cheesy, but hey perhaps I'm wrong.
April 7, 200718 yr nowt wrong with some manufactured pop.... the monkees were superb! Yeah, after the TV show and they did their own thing...
April 7, 200718 yr Dragonforce-Through The Fire And Flames -36HTROVH-4 3:39 in (from 1:30 to go) one guy takes sips of beer. :lol: I don't think this is cheesy, but hey perhaps I'm wrong. Yeah, and it's in a VIDEO as well... So I really dunno what this Fishy guy's problem is.... :wacko: Of course it's cheesy, they bloody know themselves that it's all a bit cheesy, they dont really take themselves seriously.. It's just 'Good Time' Metal, just a bit of fun. I'm not even that big a fan of Dragonforce tbh, I only know a couple of the guys, and I joke with them that they're cheesy... :lol:
April 9, 200718 yr Author :lol: :lol: Oh dear... You've sorta blown your cool factor a bit by admitting that one mate... Oh well, I suppose everyone's got a guilty pleasure... :P :lol: are guitly pleasures still cool now its a mainstream concept and not just shoreditch
April 9, 200718 yr Guilty pleasures have never been cool. It's not cool for me to say that 'Land of Make Believe' is one of the finest-crafted pop songs of all time, but it is. Ditto 'My Camera', but not so much the Eurovision bollocks.
April 9, 200718 yr Author Guilty pleasures have never been cool. I think Guilty pleasures was cool in i-D when coolclarity was around and when i posted the first post after reading it in i-D.
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