Posted May 3, 200718 yr NME – The Greatest Indie Anthems Ever Compiled By Listeners And Presenters Of XFM And Readers And Writers Of NME. From NME 5th May 2007 issue 1. Oasis – Live Forever – 1994 2. Nirvana – Smells Like Teen Sprit – 1991 3. Pulp – Common People – 1995 4. The Smiths – There Is A Light That Never Goes Out – 1986 5. The Libertines – Don’t Look Back Into The Sun – 2003 6. The Libertines – Time For Heroes – 2003 7. The Smiths – How Soon Is Now? – 1984 8. The Stone Roses – I Am The Resurrection – 1989 9. The Strokes – Last Night – 2000 10. Arctic Monkeys – I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor – 2005 11. The Smiths – This Charming Man – 1983 12. The Stone Roses – She Bangs The Drum – 1989 13. The Libertines – Can’t Stand Me Now – 2004 14. Oasis – Don’t Look Back In Anger – 1995 15. Blur – Song 2 – 1997 16. Franz Ferdinand – Take Me Out – 2004 17. The Stone Roses – I Wanna Be Adored – 1989 18. The Verve – Bitter Sweet Symphony – 1997 19. Joy Division – Love Will Tear Us Apart – 1980 20. Joy Division – Transmission – 1979 21. The Smiths – Panic – 1986 22. The Breeders – Cannonball – 1993 23. The Gossip – Standing In The Way Of Control – 2006 24. Babyshambles – f*** Forever – 2005 25. Oasis – Supersonic – 1994 26. Radiohead – Creep – 1992 27. Oasis – Wonderwall – 1995 28. Pavement – Cut Your Hair – 1994 29. Arcade Fire – Rebellion (Lies) – 2005 30. Manic Street Preachers – A Design For Life – 1996 31. Oasis – Cigarettes And Alcohol – 1994 32. The Stone Roses – Fools Gold – 1989 33. The Killers – Mr Brightside - 2004 34. Radiohead – Just – 1995 35. Pixies – Monkey Gone To Heaven – 1989 36. Kaiser Chiefs – I Predict A Riot – 2004 37. Kasabian – LSF – 2004 38. Pixies – Gigantic – 1998 39. Oasis – Champagne Supernova – 1995 40. Klaxtons – Goldan Skans – 2007 41. Blur – Parklife - 1994 42. The Cribs – Hey Scenesters! – 2005 43. Suede – Animal Nitrate – 1993 44. The Stone Roses – Love Spreads – 1994 45. The La’s – There She Goes – 1998 46. Dinosaur Jr. – Freak Scene – 1988 47. The Libertines – Up The Bracket – 2002 48. Sonic Youth – Bull In The Heather – 1994 49. The Rapture – House Of Jealous Lovers – 2002 50. My Bloody Valentine – You Made Me Realise – 1988 What is your opinion of this list?
May 3, 200718 yr Author 10 Indie Anthems that should be in the list (IMHO).... 1. The Clash – Londons Calling 2. Manic Street Preachers – Motorcycle Emptiness 3. Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK 4. New Order - Blue Monday 5. Velvet Underground - Venus In Furs 6. Echo & The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon 7. Happy Mondays – Kinky Afro 8. The Cure – Boys Don’t Cry 9. Primal Scream – Loaded 10. Sundays - Can't Be Sure As ever the NME list is biased way too much towards recent music.
May 3, 200718 yr 10 Indie Anthems that should be in the list (IMHO).... 1. The Clash – Londons Calling 2. Manic Street Preachers – Motorcycle Emptiness 3. Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK 4. New Order - Blue Monday 5. Velvet Underground - Venus In Furs 6. Echo & The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon 7. Happy Mondays – Kinky Afro 8. The Cure – Boys Don’t Cry 9. Primal Scream – Loaded 10. Sundays - Can't Be Sure As ever the NME list is biased way too much towards recent music. Some of them are hardly Indie! Sex Pistols were punk, Clash i'm not so sure, New Order were dance/rock. Oasis are a recent band?
May 3, 200718 yr Author Some of them are hardly Indie! Sex Pistols were punk, Clash i'm not so sure, New Order were dance/rock. Rubbish. The Sex Pistols & The Clash were aesthically indie in origin. The whole Punk movement was Indie music not Heavy Rock/Metal music because of its Do It Yourself approach to musicality, image, performance & promotion. They were actually a backlash to virtuoso dinosaur Heavy Rock/Metal acts from the mid-1970s (Yes, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer, etc). It is only thanks to the Post-Grunge likes of all those dreadful 1990s US "Punk" bands (Green Day, Offspring, etc) that the likes of Kerrang music now regards the original Punk movement as Rock/Metal, which is rather ironic since the Rock/Metal scene at the time despised Punk Rock music. Which is probably why when I grew up Tommy Vance never played any Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Buzzcocks, etc. While John Peel did. That is why the likes of NME, Melody Maker, Sounds weekly newspapers lauded the Punk music scene back in 1976-1979 because it was a backlash on what had previously existed. As for New Order - New Order were formed out of the ashes of Joy Division, after the suicide of lead singer/lyricist Ian Curtis. They were most definitely Indie-Dance music but taking their "Dance" influence from the burgeoning New York Hip-Hop scene, not from the dated Disco scene. Dance music at the time was all about the likes of Shannon - Let The Music Play, In Deep - Last Night A DJ Saved My Life, Freeez - I.O.U., Madonna - Holiday, Jocelyn Brown - Somebody Else's Guy, Hazell Dean - Searchin', etc.
May 4, 200718 yr I guess the votes were split between LWTUA and Transmission - mind you, didn't stop the legions of Libertines-loving idiots voting three of their Clash ripoff songs into the top 20. The Greatest...ever polls are always biased towards recent music - if they run the poll again in 10 years time then perhaps one Libertines song may scrape number 50. I was pleased to see Pixies, My Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Dinosaur Jr etc in there. Yet sightly dismayed to see 'Bitter Sweet Symphony' is still popular, despite being a hideous dadrock dirge. Edited May 4, 200718 yr by richie
May 4, 200718 yr Some of them are hardly Indie! Sex Pistols were punk, Clash i'm not so sure, Rubbish. The Sex Pistols & The Clash were aesthically indie in origin. The whole Punk movement was Indie music not Heavy Rock/Metal music because of its Do It Yourself approach to musicality, image, performance & promotion. They were actually a backlash to virtuoso dinosaur Heavy Rock/Metal acts from the mid-1970s (Yes, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer, etc). It is only thanks to the Post-Grunge likes of all those dreadful 1990s US "Punk" bands (Green Day, Offspring, etc) that the likes of Kerrang music now regards the original Punk movement as Rock/Metal, which is rather ironic since the Rock/Metal scene at the time despised Punk Rock music. Which is probably why when I grew up Tommy Vance never played any Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Buzzcocks, etc. While John Peel did. That is why the likes of NME, Melody Maker, Sounds weekly newspapers lauded the Punk music scene back in 1976-1979 because it was a backlash on what had previously existed. As for New Order - New Order were formed out of the ashes of Joy Division, after the suicide of lead singer/lyricist Ian Curtis. They were most definitely Indie-Dance music but taking their "Dance" influence from the burgeoning New York Hip-Hop scene, not from the dated Disco scene. yeah thisispop is totally right. he knows his stuff. respect due. If you read '77: The Year of Punk and New Wave' by Henrik Bech Poulsen one of the first things that is stated in the book that the terms punk and new wave were interchangeble and exactly the same. In fact one of the first Punk compilations was a record called 'New Wave' http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/images/jackets/m/18/1841958794.jpg http://www.trakmarx.com/2006_01/hd/07_punk_77_cover_496.jpg
May 4, 200718 yr Some of them are hardly Indie! Sex Pistols were punk, Clash i'm not so sure, New Order were dance/rock. Oasis are a recent band? "Indie" grew out of the Punk scene though mate, there would be no Indie at all without Punk.... You seem to forget that "Indie" is short-hand for "Independent", ie, music that is relatively free of the big labels and the music biz... Punk came along and just changed things forever, igniting and inspiring souls such as Tony Wilson/Factory records, Mute and Rough Trade, so it is quite correct that the likes of Sex Pistols and The Clash should be included.... New Order/Joy Division are as "Indie" as it gets really, one of the foundation bands of Tony Wilson's Factory records, stalwarts and precipitators of the Hacienda/'Madchester' scene... No New Order, no Happy Mondays or Stone Roses mate....
May 4, 200718 yr Some of them are hardly Indie! Sex Pistols were punk, Clash i'm not so sure, New Order were dance/rock. Oasis are a recent band? "Indie" grew out of the Punk scene though mate, there would be no Indie at all without Punk.... You seem to forget that "Indie" is short-hand for "Independent", ie, music that is relatively free of the big labels and the music biz... Punk came along and just changed things forever, igniting and inspiring souls such as Tony Wilson/Factory records, Mute and Rough Trade, so it is quite correct that the likes of Sex Pistols and The Clash should be included.... New Order/Joy Division are as "Indie" as it gets really, one of the foundation bands of Tony Wilson's Factory records, stalwarts and precipitators of the Hacienda/'Madchester' scene... No New Order, no Happy Mondays or Stone Roses mate.... and the question about Oasis? :lol: :lol: (without using the words 'if only if you think the Rolling Stones are a recent band' :lol: )
May 4, 200718 yr Rubbish. The Sex Pistols & The Clash were aesthically indie in origin. The whole Punk movement was Indie music not Heavy Rock/Metal music because of its Do It Yourself approach to musicality, image, performance & promotion. They were actually a backlash to virtuoso dinosaur Heavy Rock/Metal acts from the mid-1970s (Yes, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer, etc). It is only thanks to the Post-Grunge likes of all those dreadful 1990s US "Punk" bands (Green Day, Offspring, etc) that the likes of Kerrang music now regards the original Punk movement as Rock/Metal, which is rather ironic since the Rock/Metal scene at the time despised Punk Rock music. Which is probably why when I grew up Tommy Vance never played any Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, The Buzzcocks, etc. While John Peel did. That is why the likes of NME, Melody Maker, Sounds weekly newspapers lauded the Punk music scene back in 1976-1979 because it was a backlash on what had previously existed. As for New Order - New Order were formed out of the ashes of Joy Division, after the suicide of lead singer/lyricist Ian Curtis. They were most definitely Indie-Dance music but taking their "Dance" influence from the burgeoning New York Hip-Hop scene, not from the dated Disco scene. Dance music at the time was all about the likes of Shannon - Let The Music Play, In Deep - Last Night A DJ Saved My Life, Freeez - I.O.U., Madonna - Holiday, Jocelyn Brown - Somebody Else's Guy, Hazell Dean - Searchin', etc. absolutely correct... well said :) these kids need educating,...lol
May 4, 200718 yr that list is a joke... but when you ask kids whats best (and the nme are all kids by my perspective...lol well at least i saw the birth of indie first hand), then youll only get the better known old tracks plus modern ones. most of the tracks on the list are credible enough tracks, but, its hardly a difinitive list.... how can it be unless you ask people with the full range of knowlege the question?.
May 4, 200718 yr Where's The Smiths' 'Bigmouth Strikes Again'? Typical NME fodder, that list.... The Libertines? Oh please...............
May 4, 200718 yr Don't Look Back Into The Sun is very good imo, but not their best. It reminds me too much of The Cure's It's Friday I'm In Love :o
May 5, 200718 yr why do the libertines have 3 songs in the top 20?! they're so over rated -_- I've never really been into The Libertines either, quite surprised they have 3 songs in there :blink:
May 5, 200718 yr Cannot understand how The Libertines are so overrated. Edited May 5, 200718 yr by Luciano
May 5, 200718 yr Cannot understand how The Libertines are so overrated. try 'because they are totally generic, they are nothing new, they are utterly unoriginal'.... i dont mind the libs, but they have got far too much credit for very average music.
May 5, 200718 yr Cannot understand how The Libertines are so overrated. Because people are dumb enough to believe the hype about them.... Honestly, I've very rarely heard such utter mediocrity become such a cause celebre... They just ripped off The Clash and Gallon Drunk... As for Babyshambles.... Christ, awful, just awful.... Dirty Pretty Things, a Z-rate Kinks Karaoke tribute band....
May 5, 200718 yr try 'because they are totally generic, they are nothing new, they are utterly unoriginal'.... i dont mind the libs, but they have got far too much credit for very average music. then again if you take the view that some critics make that one of the impacts of po-mo was to make everything that came after it retro-active so new truely new forms could be created then maybe that criticsm can be given to anyone. however they get the credit as towards all the soft-rockers, coldplay, travis, oasis etc etc they sound the best thing to have happened in years (and yes you could probably equate a travis album with the words years :lol: )
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