Posted July 29, 200717 yr The rise of knife and gun culture isn't just about black communities. It is about boys. With all the recent knife attacks and shootings in London, Manchester etc is it just one sector of our society or is it more widespread. Recent headlines: July 29th Killers strike while family grieves for murder victim July 29th Man, 20, faces murder charge over shooting July27th Boy shot dead after bike chase is 10th young London victim in six months July27th Champion boxer declared dead after shooting July26th Teenage boy shot dead May28th Man held over shooting of robbery 'hero' May11th Mobile phone deflected bullet, says jeweller shot after robbery May10th Man shot dead in Glasgow street May 4th Teenager sentenced to life for fatal shooting
July 29, 200717 yr It's not a guy thing, it's a thick-as-$h!t-people-who-can't-sort-their-problems-out-any-other-way thing IMO.
July 30, 200717 yr The vast majority of knife and gun crime can be linked directly to drug trafficking and gang activity, I dont believe that it really affects society as a whole that much, I live in Camden in North London, a pretty notorious place for this sort of thing, but frankly I aint seen jack all in the two years that I've been living there; the previous two years I lived in Hackney, an even more notorious area, again I didn't see or hear anything... Could it be because I aint actually involved in either of the two activities I mentioned at the start of my post... ? IMO, if you aren't involved in drugs or gangs, then it's very unlikey to affect you personally.....
July 30, 200717 yr It's not a guy thing, it's a thick-as-$h!t-people-who-can't-sort-their-problems-out-any-other-way thing IMO. :lol: :lol: You kinda have a point there mate....
July 31, 200717 yr it may be a male thing, but the bottom line factor is that it's a black male thing.
July 31, 200717 yr it may be a male thing, but the bottom line factor is that it's a black male thing. I take it you've never been to Glasgow, Paisley or Edinburgh then.... Gun and knife crime is carried out by predominately WHITE people.... Glasgow has had a gang culture based around gangs of white, male youths going around with Stanley Knives, "chibbing" each other since the early 60s mate... It's nothing new....
July 31, 200717 yr I've worked for long periods in both Glasgow and Edinburgh, Scott. What I'm talking about here isn't the chavvy druggie hoodie crime you're referring to in Scotland.... this is gang related 'bredren' crime..... and the stats speak for themselves - of the, is it 14, youths stabbed this year - all but one was black. I think we need to come off our misguided politically correct horses here and try to get to the bottom of this worrying craze sweeping the streets..... streets where many youths in urban areas, mostly black, think it's cool to be part of a gang which operates using violence i.e. guns and knives. I hate censorship, but surely it's time to start looking at the gross glamorisation of both guns and knives in hip hop and urban music, music that these kids buy, live by and die by.
August 1, 200717 yr I hate censorship, but surely it's time to start looking at the gross glamorisation of both guns and knives in hip hop and urban music, music that these kids buy, live by and die by. I agree with this totally... People blab on about Metal being the "evil, satanic" music, yet, when was the last time you heard of any stabbings or shootings directly related to listening to Heavy Metal...? For all its aggression, Metal is essentially a "Humanist" musical form, very politically and socially aware for the most part (just listen to Machine Head's magnificent "The Blackening" with its complex, socially and politically aware lyrical content...). Okay, you did have that whole "Norwegian Black Metal" thing a while back with one or two band members killing each other and the odd Church burning, BUT, that was almost certainly isolated to a particular strand, and it was a very, very tiny minority.. Most of the Metallers I know just looked at this whole scene and said "bunch of bloody tossers"....
August 4, 200717 yr I hate censorship, but surely it's time to start looking at the gross glamorisation of both guns and knives in hip hop and urban music, music that these kids buy, live by and die by. unfortunately i tend to agree with this... hmm... my paper has a story about a 15 year old girl fataly stabbing a young mother (18)...
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