Robbie Williams & Gary Barlow Bury The Hatchet

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Robbie Williams has finally made up with former Take That bandmate Gary Barlow.

The pair have been feuding ever since Williams quit the band over a decade ago.

 

But they recently met up in Los Angeles and buried the hatchet.

 

Barlow told GMTV: "Yes, we met. We had a great chat. He's really well and we're good buds again.

 

"It was the best meet-up we've had since 1996."

 

But he denied rumours Williams will be getting back together with the band.

 

"No rejoin," he insisted.

 

Take That have enjoyed a hugely successful comeback since reforming for a sell-out tour last year.

 

Williams was rumoured to be joining them - but fans had to make do with a hologram.

 

His reunion with Barlow raises hopes that he will make a special appearance during their next tour.

 

It's nice they made up, and obviously Robbie told them he did'nt want to rejoin, however typical of the braindead British press the fact that they met up for dinnner in LA apperently means they're will be a reunion, despite Gary confirming it won't happen and Robbie's spokesperson also denying it. The press will never stop going on about it, no matter what. <_<

and obviously Robbie told them he did'nt want to rejoin, however

 

No, Scotty, its obviously THEY told him they didnt want HIM to rejoin them. Ha-ha.

 

I think they are doing just fine without him and probably will break America with the upcoming single. Why would Robbie join them NOW when they could become bigger than ever?

 

I hope Guy Chambers will help Robbie to score some hits again as it really feels like Robbie is unable to write HITs on his own unlike TT who doesn't need anybody else and are really great songwriters.

 

 

I always defended Robbie and I love and respect him, but it IS true actually- he's just can't do it without Guy.

No, Scotty, its obviously THEY told him they didnt want HIM to rejoin them. Ha-ha.

 

I think they are doing just fine without him and probably will break America with the upcoming single. Why would Robbie join them NOW when they could become bigger than ever?

 

I hope Guy Chambers will help Robbie to score some hits again as it really feels like Robbie is unable to write HITs on his own unlike TT who doesn't need anybody else and are really great songwriters.

I always defended Robbie and I love and respect him, but it IS true actually- he's just can't do it without Guy.

 

Oh for the love of god almightly. What on earth is wrong with you stirring up $h!t again when there is absolutelly no need at all? Have something mentally wrong with you or something? The press are the ones stirring up $h!t, TT and ROb clearly are sick the death of it so have both said it won't take place, yet fans like you just CONTINUE to want to stir things up? Grow up and stop spouting out your tabloid like conclusions because quite frankly I refuse to believe you are THAT ignorant.

 

I cannot stand people like you who seem to think they know what they are talking about when they clearly have not god the first clue. First lets break down your simply astonishingly foolish post. Your first point being that they are the ones that told him they did'nt want him? Oh please, you are showing you simply lack of knoledge about the sitiuation are'nt you? They are the ones who have CONSTANTLY been saying all year and last year that they would love him to perform with them again, over and over and over again, and how the mike is always there etc, and how they would like him to write on their next album among dozens of other things. He however, has said NOTHING, if he at all wanted to join them he would've done it before now clearly. He is the one who obviously does not want to rejoin them, whilst they never stop going on about it all. That is obviously the reason why Gary has all of a sudden now said it definatly won't be happening. So your point simply could not be more ridiculous. :rolleyes:

 

Yes, obviously they are fine without him and having great success. He has never said he wants to rejoin them, it is nothing more than the media stirring things up and people naive enough like youself to actually beleive it. As for breaking America - I wish them luck. It seems to be a great time for UK acts to be trying to crack there with all the recent success over the past 2 years. But surely they should concentrate more on Europe first, I mean BW did'nt go number one anywhere else in the world apart from the UK did it? Hmm, more work needed me thinks.

 

Now lets move onto your point about Robbie not being able to have success without Guy Chambers. Brilliant, I truely am laughing so hard at your astounding amount of ignorance. Do you know what the word 'research' means? Maybe you should try and do some before spounting out such complete and utter bull$h!t eh? Robbie's biggest selling studio album of his entire carear (Intensive Care) had absolutelly NOTHING to do with Guy whatsoever. Number one in 20 countries, near 7.5 million copies sold globally. A massive success, bigger than anything he ever did with Guy, Explain how that was possible please Locot? Are you just going to wipe this bit of history away or did it happen to pass you by? Hell, even the Rudebox album, despite Robbie doing absoluelly no work at all to promote it, still went to #1 in 14 countries, with the single going to #1 in 8 countries, the third single (She's Madonna) also going being the most played song in all of Europe for weeks on end. All of this without Robbie lifting a fingure to promote anything, and you say he can't have hits without Guy Chambers. Dearly me, it seems he can even have hits sitting back on his arse without doing any work at all, so your theory is i'm afriad rather embaressing to say the least.

 

Now lets see, you are saying TT write all their songs completelly on their own right? Never heard the name John Shanks (one of the most respected songwriters around), or Steve Robson? Billy Mann?Anders Bagge or perhaps Eg White? No??? Well those are all the people who wrote their album with them. That's right mate, five people needed, despite there being already four lads being 'really great songwriters' as you claim. Not awfully bright are you? Oh but of course they did write one song without help, 'I'd Waiy For Life', but we both know what a complete disaster that was now don't we?

 

Oh and you love and respect Robbie? I sincerly hope you are taking the p***. I realise you have him in your sig, but I have never seen you in the Robbie forum talking about him (only once about TT ages ago), and I also have never once seen you say anything remotly positive about the man, just slagging him off. All you do it try your best to cause conflict between TT and Robbie fans when there is nothing to even argue about you create something to argue about. Utterly bizzare. You also seem to know very little about him. But then again you are a big TT fan yet don't seem to be aware of alot of information about them. Quite odd I would've thought. :huh:

No, Scotty, its obviously THEY told him they didnt want HIM to rejoin them. Ha-ha.

 

I think they are doing just fine without him and probably will break America with the upcoming single. Why would Robbie join them NOW when they could become bigger than ever?

 

I hope Guy Chambers will help Robbie to score some hits again as it really feels like Robbie is unable to write HITs on his own unlike TT who doesn't need anybody else and are really great songwriters.

I always defended Robbie and I love and respect him, but it IS true actually- he's just can't do it without Guy.

 

ALUCINANTE!!!! :nono:

Oh for the love of god almightly. What on earth is wrong with you stirring up $h!t again when there is absolutelly no need at all? Have something mentally wrong with you or something? The press are the ones stirring up $h!t, TT and ROb clearly are sick the death of it so have both said it won't take place, yet fans like you just CONTINUE to want to stir things up? Grow up and stop spouting out your tabloid like conclusions because quite frankly I refuse to believe you are THAT ignorant.

 

I cannot stand people like you who seem to think they know what they are talking about when they clearly have not god the first clue. First lets break down your simply astonishingly foolish post. Your first point being that they are the ones that told him they did'nt want him? Oh please, you are showing you simply lack of knoledge about the sitiuation are'nt you? They are the ones who have CONSTANTLY been saying all year and last year that they would love him to perform with them again, over and over and over again, and how the mike is always there etc, and how they would like him to write on their next album among dozens of other things. He however, has said NOTHING, if he at all wanted to join them he would've done it before now clearly. He is the one who obviously does not want to rejoin them, whilst they never stop going on about it all. That is obviously the reason why Gary has all of a sudden now said it definatly won't be happening. So your point simply could not be more ridiculous. :rolleyes:

 

Yes, obviously they are fine without him and having great success. He has never said he wants to rejoin them, it is nothing more than the media stirring things up and people naive enough like youself to actually beleive it. As for breaking America - I wish them luck. It seems to be a great time for UK acts to be trying to crack there with all the recent success over the past 2 years. But surely they should concentrate more on Europe first, I mean BW did'nt go number one anywhere else in the world apart from the UK did it? Hmm, more work needed me thinks.

 

Now lets move onto your point about Robbie not being able to have success without Guy Chambers. Brilliant, I truely am laughing so hard at your astounding amount of ignorance. Do you know what the word 'research' means? Maybe you should try and do some before spounting out such complete and utter bull$h!t eh? Robbie's biggest selling studio album of his entire carear (Intensive Care) had absolutelly NOTHING to do with Guy whatsoever. Number one in 20 countries, near 7.5 million copies sold globally. A massive success, bigger than anything he ever did with Guy, Explain how that was possible please Locot? Are you just going to wipe this bit of history away or did it happen to pass you by? Hell, even the Rudebox album, despite Robbie doing absoluelly no work at all to promote it, still went to #1 in 14 countries, with the single going to #1 in 8 countries, the third single (She's Madonna) also going being the most played song in all of Europe for weeks on end. All of this without Robbie lifting a fingure to promote anything, and you say he can't have hits without Guy Chambers. Dearly me, it seems he can even have hits sitting back on his arse without doing any work at all, so your theory is i'm afriad rather embaressing to say the least.

 

Now lets see, you are saying TT write all their songs completelly on their own right? Never heard the name John Shanks (one of the most respected songwriters around), or Steve Robson? Billy Mann?Anders Bagge or perhaps Eg White? No??? Well those are all the people who wrote their album with them. That's write mate, five people needed, despite there being already four lads being 'really great songwriters' as you claim. Not awfully bright are you? Oh but of course they did write one song without help, 'I'd Waiy For Life', but we both know what a complete disaster that was now don't we?

 

Oh and you love and respect Robbie? I sincerly hope you are taking the p***. I realise you have him in your sig, but I have never seen you in the Robbie forum talking about him (only once about TT ages ago), and I also have never once seen you say anything remotly positive about the man, just slagging him off. All you do it try your best to cause conflict between TT and Robbie fans when there is nothing to even argue about you create something to argue about. Utterly bizzare. You also seem to know very little about him. But then again you are a big TT fan yet don't seem to be aware of alot of information about them. Quite odd I would've thought. :huh:

 

 

 

Well I'm not a Robbie fan (Scotty you know this to be true) but I'm glad they seem to be mates - and I think it is wisest that they stay separate they don't need him and he doesn't need them. If they did ever join up (even for one concert) one side of the camp would say Rob was doing them a favour and the other would say that Take That were doing Rob a favour. You just can't win. I'm glad Gary confirmed that Rob won't be joining them - I just wish people would listen to him.

 

But Scotty - really don't get carried away with Rudebox - its worldwide sales figures since release are a pitiful (by his standards) 2,100,000 (and stalling) compared to Beautiful World's 2,307,000 (and rising). OK you may say - not massively ahead - but I thought it was Rob who was supposed to be the mega-star here. I don't know - being the underdog seems to pay off ... it certainly did for Rob when he started solo. I knew you'd have a dig at IWFL too (personally I don't like it either - but they did no promo and got no airplay and it still got to the same chart position as She's Madonna (and She's Madonna had massive airplay) - so I reckon they're equal on that score. On the whole - what I'm trying to say is - you accuse other people of 'stirring sh*t' when you do it yourself (you just don't realise it). Perhaps 'stirring' was the wrong word to choose - but you do like having your little digs at Take That.

 

Kathy

 

Now .... what about this story of Robbie and David Beckham playing a gay couple in an episode of Desperate Housewives (believe me - someone has posted it on IMDb - I'm not posting a link here - go and read it yourselves!)

Edited August 6, 200717 yr by kathyp

How the mighty have fallen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If I were in TT and Robbie said he felt it was right to re-unite i'd tell him where to get off (But as per usual its just the tabloids speculating and stirring)

Now .... what about this story of Robbie and David Beckham playing a gay couple in an episode of Desperate Housewives (believe me - someone has posted it on IMDb - I'm not posting a link here - go and read it yourselves!)

 

It was on teletext too, so there may be some truth but i really think this is another 'Wikipedia' made up thing, would be hilarious if its true though i have absolutely no interest in DH whatsoever

 

Good for you Scotty. I posted once or twice quite constructive points and not dissing one over the other, only to find a goading post to cause conflict between fans, which is absolutely infantile.

 

You posted here because there was a Robbie reference nothing wrong with that and what do you get :puke2:

 

It comes to something that you cannot come here to post without causing antagonism just because you happend to be a RW fan, with little thought that you like TT too.

 

Its a shame and Rob fans often get accused of being anti TT when without doubt the ball in is both courts.

 

Why do fans of either have to have pops at each other is beyond me. Robbie went on to become the biggest selling artist in the UK after Take That, I don't think we have to justify his achievements, like we don't have to justify TT either. They are tied together by history, and nothing is going to change that.

 

And I am being polite at the moment.

 

Sorry Kathy.

Good for you Scotty. I posted once or twice quite constructive points and not dissing one over the other, only to find a goading post to cause conflict between fans, which is absolutely infantile.

 

You posted here because there was a Robbie reference nothing wrong with that and what do you get :puke2:

 

It comes to something that you cannot come here to post without causing antagonism just because you happend to be a RW fan, with little thought that you like TT too.

 

Its a shame and Rob fans often get accused of being anti TT when without doubt the ball in is both courts.

 

Why do fans of either have to have pops at each other is beyond me. Robbie went on to become the biggest selling artist in the UK after Take That, I don't think we have to justify his achievements, like we don't have to justify TT either. They are tied together by history, and nothing is going to change that.

 

And I am being polite at the moment.

 

Sorry Kathy.

 

Susie - why are you saying sorry to me? You've got nothing to apologise for .... as nor does Scotty.

 

Kathy

 

Because Kathy, you don't make me feel unwelcome. :)

Because Kathy, you don't make me feel unwelcome. :)

 

I'm glad to hear that Susie. I enjoy reading your posts - I do wish there were more of them over here though!

 

Kathy

 

Well I'm not a Robbie fan (Scotty you know this to be true) but I'm glad they seem to be mates - and I think it is wisest that they stay separate they don't need him and he doesn't need them. If they did ever join up (even for one concert) one side of the camp would say Rob was doing them a favour and the other would say that Take That were doing Rob a favour. You just can't win. I'm glad Gary confirmed that Rob won't be joining them - I just wish people would listen to him.

 

But Scotty - really don't get carried away with Rudebox - its worldwide sales figures since release are a pitiful (by his standards) 2,100,000 (and stalling) compared to Beautiful World's 2,307,000 (and rising). OK you may say - not massively ahead - but I thought it was Rob who was supposed to be the mega-star here. I don't know - being the underdog seems to pay off ... it certainly did for Rob when he started solo. I knew you'd have a dig at IWFL too (personally I don't like it either - but they did no promo and got no airplay and it still got to the same chart position as She's Madonna (and She's Madonna had massive airplay) - so I reckon they're equal on that score. On the whole - what I'm trying to say is - you accuse other people of 'stirring sh*t' when you do it yourself (you just don't realise it). Perhaps 'stirring' was the wrong word to choose - but you do like having your little digs at Take That.

 

Kathy

 

Now .... what about this story of Robbie and David Beckham playing a gay couple in an episode of Desperate Housewives (believe me - someone has posted it on IMDb - I'm not posting a link here - go and read it yourselves!)

 

Hi Kathy,

 

In regard to Rudebox's sales. I can only presume you were going by the info people get off Mediatraffic and which were posted in the Chart Chat section? That site if you are not aware is a complete and utter joke, 100% unofficial and in no way to be trusted. The amount of inaccuracies from that site is simply astonishing. It claims to be based on sales, yet there are very few countries in the world who actually give out sales info, really only the UK US, France and a few others. They merly guess how much an album sells in pretty much every country bar a handful. So Rudebox, which obviously did'nt sell hugely in the UK (only half a million), did far far better outside the UK, but mediatraffic don't have sales info for 90% of the other countries, so they merly guessed. Also the album was never released in the US, so most of the sales for Rudebox on that site are unproved and completelly wrong. Beautiful World's sales however are far more accurate because most of it's sales are from the Uk which are made available, the rest of the sales are a guess, but looking at the chart positions worldwide, 500,000 + outside the UK very generous. Rudebox's sales are far greater than 2.1m I can assure you. The only people you should trust when it comes to official album sales are official chart companies like Music Week, the BPI, IFPI, RIAA etc, and of course record companies who give out the info. All other sites are unofficial, and simply cannot be trusted. Rudebox sold 2 million copies in it's first week in Europe alone, the proof is here and simply cannot be in any way denied becase it is completelly official. Since than it has sold at between 2.7-3m copies in Europe alone. It was number 18 in the IFPI's official list of 2006's best selling album, which yet again proves it has sold at the very least 3 million in it's first two months globally. Eight months have passed, so to claim another 1 million being sold is not possible is rather foolish. Neil Tennent from the Pet Shop Boys recently confirmed in a number of interviews, that he simply did not understand why the media keep saying the album was a flop - his exact words were "That album sold four and a half million copies and it was produced out of the blue,”. “EMI didn’t even budget for it" I was even suprised that it has sold that much, but Neil Tennent produced a number of the songs, also co-wrote She's madonna and is signed to EMI so he would not spout out such a percise number without being sold by someone who knew what they were talking about. It is no way impossible that it has sold over 4 million, the only official sales figs there is for worldwide is the amount of copies the record company ship out to stores, this is the same for all albums. Like TT having sold 25m records for example, they would'nt have actually sold near that amount, but that's how much is said because that's the amount the record company shipped out and there is no way of possibly knowing or even estimating accuratly over the counter sales for any album on a global scale. Yes obviously this is way down from his usual sales, but when yout put things into perspective, it is actually very impressive how successful it has been when you consider how he totally alianted huge chunks of his fanbase by releasing a track such as Rudebox as the lead single, which is the polor opposite of what he has ever released before. And he did'nt do any promo for it at all, so it really is amazing how it even did as well as it did.

 

As for She's Madonna. As I've told you previously your claims for it's 'massive airplay' are completelly unfounded. It completelly flopped on the airplay chart, only limping into the top 40 (number 38) once and then falling out the next week. A total flop in the airplay charts in the UK. Also, it got to #16, IWFL got to #17, and it's sales in the UK were also alot higher. Both songs were the third single off their respective albums, neither did well in the UK so it is of course pointless trying to make either into a success. However there is a big difference. TT have had masssive success since last November, the media have been very much behind them (well they would as they love to buld people up and then tear them down, which will happen like it does with everyone else at some point), Shine and Patience both had great success, great airplay etc. TT had been doing an amazing amount of promotion for everything, so it was very shocking that IWFL did so badly. And although they obviously were not promoting it constantly like the previous singles, it has been performed on TV a few times (T4 and Audience with). Rob however, did'nt do any promo, it was never performed anywhere ever, he like TT had awful airplay, and unlike them had a huge amount of negetivity surroding him, and especially the album. And worldwide, She's Madonna was a huge success, which quite frankly shocked me, not that I did'nt think it was a good song, but because I never knew it was possible for a third single form such a badly critisized album to do so wel and for so long as well.

 

As for me having digs at TT. I don't want to be arguing with you because I don't dislike you, but whenever I come into this forum, I never say anything to slag them off. The only times I do are when unneccasary digs are made at Robbie, just like Locott made in this thread. Nothing infuriates me more than people deliberatly looking for an argument and escalating nothing into something. It is childish attention seeking and pathetic behavior. I don't come here and make digs at TT, if I did actually dislike them strongly, I would be, and would've been coming here slagging them off with IWFL's chart performances, but I did'nt because it is petty and childish.

 

And yes, the Becks and Rob being on Desperate Housewives as a Gay couple really is hilarous is'nt it? Obviously complete made up c**p like everything written about him, but it made me laugh. He is also apperently playing Captin Kirk in the new Star trek movie. This is all while being the caption of his LA Vale footy team, and writing his next album. Where he gets the time I dont know :P

i hope they have made up as at the end of the day they have there own careers and successfull in different ways

Hi Kathy,

 

And yes, the Becks and Rob being on Desperate Housewives as a Gay couple really is hilarous is'nt it? Obviously complete made up c**p like everything written about him, but it made me laugh. He is also apperently playing Captin Kirk in the new Star trek movie. This is all while being the caption of his LA Vale footy team, and writing his next album. Where he gets the time I dont know :P

 

That site you pointed to was good - but I'd rather have one that gives definitive sales figures - and what does the 'award level' column at the end indicate? With all due respect - I read the article from Neil Tennant ages back and I wouldn't pay much attention to what he says (he did help write the album - he's not exactly going to say bad things about it is he?)

 

On another matter though - I managed to buy Gary Barlow's 12 Months 11 Days over the weekend as I'd been curious about it having never heard any of his solo stuff before. I bought it from Woolworth's strangely enough - the same store that refused to stock his albums the first time round - obviously now jumping on the Take That bandwagon just as they jumped on the 'lets all give Barlow a good kicking' bandwagon back then. There's one song on it that I just cannot understand wasn't released - Lie To Me (go on - make a liar of me and say it was!) Anyway it just makes me even more appalled at the way Barlow was treated.

 

My rant over - and I cannot wait now to see David and Rob in Desperate Housewives and am positively itching to get a glimpse of Rob in his mustard coloured, spandex Star-Trek costume!

 

Kathy

Scotty, I'd really like to know from where you are getting those sales figures? Your Robbie sales always look 'a little bit' (well, actually, A LOT) higher than in all other sources and that's really weird.

That site you pointed to was good - but I'd rather have one that gives definitive sales figures - and what does the 'award level' column at the end indicate? With all due respect - I read the article from Neil Tennant ages back and I wouldn't pay much attention to what he says (he did help write the album - he's not exactly going to say bad things about it is he?)

 

As I’ve said already, no such site exists which gives ‘definitive’ sales figures for the world sadly. Only made up inaccurate, sites, which merely guess. As for the award levels, each one of them equals 1 million copies; awards are given out each month, and as you can see Robbie was given 2x platinum (2m) for October, despite it only being released in the last week of that month. Beautiful World by TT got 2x platinum in April as well. So that’s what it means. It is the only way of getting an accurate sales fig, record companies even have to pay for it, and it represents the record industry, mainly in Europe. As for Neil, I very much doubt he particularly cares about making the album ‘look good’. If he wanted to really inflate it’s sales, then he would’ve said, 5 or 6 million, not a precise number such as four and a half. He also said in another interview, that it had sold more then the Pet Shop Boys most successful album ever worldwide. He is an extremely well respected person in the music business, and not some young fool who would just make up things off the top of his head. I’ll tell you what, if I ever meet Robbie, I’ll ask him for you. He has always been very aware of his sales, so if anyone would know it’s him. :P

 

 

Scotty, I'd really like to know from where you are getting those sales figures? Your Robbie sales always look 'a little bit' (well, actually, A LOT) higher than in all other sources and that's really weird.

 

I’ll tell you what is really weird Locott, is the fact that your first post in this thread was complete and utter bull$h!t – every last word of it infact, yet you said it with such authority as if you believed it was perfectly true. Please don't dissapoint me and tell me your not even going to respond to my reply to it, after me taking the time to write all of that. :(

 

And as for the sales. I would’ve thought I’ve more than explained in my second post, where I have got my info from, the only official place there is for global and European Sales. Your ‘all other sources’ are I’m afraid irrelevant. :)

I’ll tell you what is really weird Locott, is the fact that your first post in this thread was complete and utter bull$h!t – every last word of it infact, yet you said it with such authority as if you believed it was perfectly true. Please don't dissapoint me and tell me your not even going to respond to my reply to it, after me taking the time to write all of that. :(

 

And as for the sales. I would’ve thought I’ve more than explained in my second post, where I have got my info from, the only official place there is for global and European Sales. Your ‘all other sources’ are I’m afraid irrelevant. :)

 

Excellent to see the facts being straightened out by Scotty. The RW sale figures have always seem to have been the same from the majority of sources Locott so I don't know what your on about.

 

As for the re-union this is just a spark up of previous re-union talk that happened months ago as its what the press want because fabricated stories such as this sell more then the truth. Really its only a small group of UK fans that want this to happen. Cause really the rest of the world have forgotten Take That and this latest attempt at a 'comeback' wont last very long.

Excellent to see the facts being straightened out by Scotty. The RW sale figures have always seem to have been the same from the majority of sources Locott so I don't know what your on about.

 

As for the re-union this is just a spark up of previous re-union talk that happened months ago as its what the press want because fabricated stories such as this sell more then the truth. Really its only a small group of UK fans that want this to happen. Cause really the rest of the world have forgotten Take That and this latest attempt at a 'comeback' wont last very long.

 

Osiris - if you're going to slag Take That off - can you do it on the Robbie forum please!

 

Gary said himself definitely NO REUNION although he and Rob appear to be on friendly terms again. Besides - I believe the other source for the true sales figures of Rudebox, i.e. £2m max.

 

On the comeback - by the time the tour ends - it will have lasted almost two years - not too bad as they all want to get back to doing other things anyway. They have lives you know!

 

Kathy