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They have made films of all the Ian Fleming books - although, to be more accurate, they have used the titles of most of them, and the bare minimum from the plot. I love the books, they are so much better than the films. The closest the films are to the books are with the early Connery films from Dr No to Thunderball.

 

The book for Moonraker is absolutely amazing, and the film is a complete total mess compared to it. The only things the film kept from the book were the characters of James Bond, M and Hugo Drax (athough Drax is completely different in the book) and the fact that Moonraker is a rocket. The rest is totally different (in a good way).

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It's odd for me; having grown up watching the films, I began to read the books a couple of years back and just couldn't get into them in the slightest. :( I'll try again one day soon, but for now - the films are for me. ^_^ It's my favourite franchise.

I can't believe so many think Lazenby was a better Bond than Dalton :o Lazenby is widly considered by far the worst ever, he is just a pretty awful actor in general. A truly dreadul Bond. Dalton was brilliant and as Craig said, the nearest to the way Bond was meant to be. ^_^

 

I despise Dalton and his films. I have only ever watched them once, and I really hated them. Dalton is just so wrong.
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I utterly agree. He was quite hideous. None of the sauve or good looks needed to play Bond. What an utter bore.

 

Also, didn't one of his films feature a BLONDE Moneypenny?! That in itself is quite dreadful. -_-

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Best Bond Films

 

01 Goldfinger

02 Live & Let Die

03 Goldeneye

04 Casino Royale (2006 version)

05 Dr. No

06 The spy Who Loved Me

07 You Only Live Twice

08 Diamonds Are Forever

09 Die Another Day

10 Thunderball

 

Best Bond Actors

01 sean Connery

02 Pierce Brosnan

03 Daniel Craig

04 Roger Moore

05 Timothy Dalton

06 Geroge Lazenby

 

Worst Bond movies

1 Octopussy

2 From A View To A Kill

3 The living Daylights

4 Tomorrow Never dies

5 Licence To Kill

 

 

The two bond films by Timothy I despise

 

Never Say, Never Again, is not part of the Bond franchise, well... the producers never really approved it

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I can't believe so many think Lazenby was a better Bond than Dalton :o Lazenby is widly considered by far the worst ever, he is just a pretty awful actor in general. A truly dreadul Bond. Dalton was brilliant and as Craig said, the nearest to the way Bond was meant to be. ^_^

 

In my opinion George Lazenby is the weakest Bond out of the lot, but the movie is considered a classic to die hard Bond fans.

Yes it is.

 

Casino Royale was Bond 21 as a working title, all Bond movies are giving working titles, they haven't named the next Bond movie yet, and they start filming it early next year. The movie is schedule for release on November 7, 2008

I can't believe so many think Lazenby was a better Bond than Dalton :o Lazenby is widly considered by far the worst ever, he is just a pretty awful actor in general. A truly dreadul Bond. Dalton was brilliant and as Craig said, the nearest to the way Bond was meant to be. ^_^

Lazenby was good, he is actually considered the closest to Ian Flemming's portayle. I don't know why everyone thinks he was so bad. He's probably the second best to play Bond but as he only did one it's hardnto place him above Moore and Brosnan. He would have been oneof the greats had he not rejected to stay on. OHMSS is one of the best films imo.

 

Living Daylights is the worst film by far and I thought Dalton was rubbish in it. Licence to Kill is a little better.

Casino Royale was Bond 21 as a working title, all Bond movies are giving working titles, they haven't named the next Bond movie yet, and they start filming it early next year. The movie is schedule for release on November 7, 2008

Whatever :lol: stop rubbing my face in it.

Iam Fleming himself would have preferred Roger Moore - he was quoted as saying so. Connery is nothing like the Bond in the books, tbf, he is more of a cross between Connery and Moore.
Iam Fleming himself would have preferred Roger Moore - he was quoted as saying so. Connery is nothing like the Bond in the books, tbf, he is more of a cross between Connery and Moore.

 

Did you know Ian Fleming wanted Cary Grant to play James Bond in the first Bond movie.

Did you know Ian Fleming wanted Cary Grant to play James Bond in the first Bond movie.

I had heard that - I read a biography of Ian Fleming years ago...

Hmm, interesting and fertile debate here...

 

For what it's worth, here's my two cents....

 

For my mind, Bond is better now than he ever has been since the days of Connery. I had my doubts about Daniel Craig, but within about the first five seconds of that brilliantly executed opening sequence in "Casino Royale" any doubts that I may have had were totally obliterated. Bond has changed, and changed for the better, "Casino Royale" is an example of the 'back to basics' approach that worked so well for the likes of the "Batman" franchise, and let's face it folks, Bond was looking seriously tired, dated and dull in comparison to the brilliant 'Bourne' trilogy which was both breathlessly exciting and incredibly intelligent; such a shame Matt Damon is American, in many ways, he'd actually make a very good Bond also... :lol: He has that whole "ruthless, icy emotional detatchement" thing down perfectly. But then so does Craig, and for my mind, he is the best Bond since Connery..

 

We should be grateful to Paul Greengrass and Matt Damon and their Bourne films, it's made Bond become better, although, "Bourne Ultimatum" was a better film than "Casino Royale" IMO..

 

Lazenby and Moore are both dreadful IMO, Moore because of his campy, ridiculous jokiness (which I actually enjoyed as a kid, but find totally irritating now), Lazenby because he is quite simply an awful actor, the only reason he seems to be okay in OHMSS is because his co-stars - Telly Savalas and Diana Rigg - were good enough themselves to be able to cover for him, as a film, OHMSS, is actually one of the strongest Bond films, it is let down only by the presence of Lazenby.. I'm hoping for a remake of OHMSS with Daniel Craig's Bond, and Paul Greengrass directing, I reckon that would just kick ass....

 

Brosnan was okay, but rather over-rated, I've seen him in several non-Bond films, and I think he does better in those tbh... Dalton is very under-rated IMO, I feel that his bond was actually very close to the literary Bond, Dalton did a lot of research into the role, and is somewhat of a method actor. I suppose after the campiness of the Moore years, the very studied, method approach of Dalton seemed a very stark contrast, perhaps too stark for most fans, but when you look back, he was a very good Bond, he perhaps needed better scripts to work from.. I think people would perhaps accept Dalton more now because cinema audiences have become much more sophisticated...

 

I notice that everyone seems to forget about David Niven... :lol: :lol: Well, little wonder really, the "spoof" version of "Casino Royale" rather is better off forgotten about..... :lol:

 

My Top 10 Bond Films

 

Goldfinger (still the benchmark by which all Bonds should be judged, a timeless classic)

Casino Royale (2006)

From Russia With Love

Thunderball

OHMSS (a great film, regardless of Lazenby.. Would probably be at least two places higher without him..)

Licence To Kill

Goldeneye (really the only Brosnan film I actually rate)

You Only Live Twice

Dr No

Live And Let Die (because Moore seems to take the role a bit more seriously in this one, his first outing..)

 

How I rate the Bonds

 

1. Sean Connery

2. Daniel Craig

3. Timothy Dalton

4. Pierce Brosnan

5. Roger Moore

6= George Lazenby/David Niven

 

My Least Fave Bonds

 

1. Casino Royale (1960s)

2. Octopussy

3. Moonraker (very silly "Star Wars" rip-off, the book was really nothing like this..)

4. Never Say Never Again

5. View To A Kill (not even the excellent Chris Walken could save this one..)

6. Die Another Day

 

 

 

I don't why everybody considers Never Say Never Again, its basically a remake of Thunderball which the producers did not approve of it, there has been 21 bond movies, and NSNA is not included, same goes for the original Casino Royale
I don't why everybody considers Never Say Never Again, its basically a remake of Thunderball which the producers did not approve of it, there has been 21 bond movies, and NSNA is not included, same goes for the original Casino Royale

 

They're both pretty c**p films though mate... NSNA comes across like some sort of cheap TV movie tbh, the photography and direction are terrible... As for the "original" Casino Royale, well, I've no idea just how the hell the producers of that turd actually even got the licence to use the name of Fleming's book, it bears absolutely no resemblance to the plot of the book at all...

They're both pretty c**p films though mate... NSNA comes across like some sort of cheap TV movie tbh, the photography and direction are terrible... As for the "original" Casino Royale, well, I've no idea just how the hell the producers of that turd actually even got the licence to use the name of Fleming's book, it bears absolutely no resemblance to the plot of the book at all...

 

The only best bit of NSNA is a young Kim "PHWOAR" Basinger :wub: :lol:

 

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