I've just heard about her being charged, too!

 

 

I really don't believe she will be charged. I believe she didn't do it.

Well, the so-called "reasonable" people also rape and molest their kids as well mate, it aint just the "Shameless" types. What earthly reason is there for someone to do that..?? The parents of Jonbenet also seem "reasonable", but you aint gonna convince me that they never had a hand in what happened to their daughter... Fred and Rose West seemed like such a "respectable" married couple as well mate....

 

you misunderstand my point...

 

'reasonable' people dont act unreasonably, so that rules out some of the daft theories floating around. reasonable people dont commit motiveless random acts. reasonable people though do do despicable acts where theres a MOTIVE. sex IS a motive, so rape, fiddling, abuse are motives.

 

like i said before.... show me a plausable motive and ill start giving some weight to their 'guiltyness'.

Hello,

But, we do not know if Gerry - the Husband - will also be Charged,

as yet - he is to be Interviewed today, I believe. (Anyhow, Kate is 'only'

a 'Suspect' - 'Arguido' - at this stage. She has NOT - yet - been Charged).

 

We will see if it is only his Wife who is Charged. I do NOT see how Gerry

cannot be Charged too - if Kate - IF - had something to do with Madeleine's

Death, then HE MUST HAVE KNOWN - to help cover it up! He shared the

Apartment with his Wife, for God's sake!

 

However, our Media will simply not stop defending the Parents.

 

I hear that Jeremy Vine has been saying that Kate is being 'framed',

by the Police! He has said this on BBC Radio, apparently - today.

 

'The Sun', has - today - done an Editorial, in which it says the

Portuguese Police are hopeless, & that they have no right to have asked

Kate in for questioning, yesterday. That Kate has suffered enough, & if

the Police are on a 'fishing expedition', (to get evidence from her), they

are a disgrace! In other words - 'The Sun', does not think that the Police

have ANY right to question either Kate or Gerry - because they are such

'wonderful' people, & so on! In fact, ALL Police Forces, in ALL Countries, get

evidence by asking people in for questioning - it is part of their job. It happens

in BRITAIN that way, too!

 

'The Sun', is so busy slagging off the Portuguese Police, that it forgets that

the fresh evidence really came from BRITISH Police, (& Dogs), who were

sent, over to assist the Portuguese Police! AND, the DNA Results are from a

BRITISH Laboratory! So, if 'The Sun', thinks that Gerry & Kate are wonderful,

innocent people, being treated badly - by c**p Portuguese Police - it MUST think

that the BRITISH Police & the Laboratory, that helped get the evidence, are c**p too!

 

I hear that Sky News have had an 'Expert' on, who claims that Portuguese Police

may have accidently contaminated Gerry & Kate's Car, & that the Couple are

innocent!

 

Gerry & Kate have brought it all on themselves - too many lies & contradictions

in their stories, from Day 1, & a scary number of UK people too trusting, or naive,

to realise that they were being lied to.

 

Anyone who dared to even say that Gerry & Kate had no right to leave their 3

Kids in bed, to go out, was called, 'Evil', & 'Cruel', by the UK Media.

 

At Channel 4 Forums, any Threads that dared to criticise Gerry & Kate,

- in ANY way - were removed by their Moderators.

 

The UK Press only published Letters that supported Gerry & Kate.

 

The UK Media told the World that 'everyone' in the UK was 100% supportive

of Gerry & Kate, & this was a LIE - as many, many Internet Posts were

against the Parents. 'The Sun' proclaimed that '38,000 readers' had Posted

in its Madeleine Thread - not mentioning that about 60% or 70% of the Posts

were saying that Gerry & Kate should be charged with Child Neglect!

 

And in the meantime, Gerry was saying ridiculous things - like how finding his

Daughter missing, was like going to a Cash Machine - as a Student - & finding you

had no money left in your Account!

 

Kate came up with a story that a Day, or so, before she vanished, (May 3rd),

Madeleine told her:, 'Mummy, I've had the best day ever' - when I know of NO

Child of 3 or 4, who would talk like THAT! It is more like what a 8 or 9 Year old

would say - it was CLEARLY a 'quote' that Madeleine never said - her precious

Mother made it up! (To play on Public Sympathy).

 

That has been the trouble from Day 1 - too much unquestioning support of Gerry

& Kate, & too many people who were unable to realise that they were actually

hearing contradictory stories, from the Parents, & so on.

 

Then there was, 'Cuddle Cat'. It is supposed to be Madeleine's 'Favourite Toy',

& her Mother waited until about 100 DAYS after the Child had vanished, to suddenly

announce that whoever had 'Abducted' Madeleine, had taken the Toy off her, &

put it on a high shelf, or cupboard!

 

So, what did Kate do with this vital piece of evidence - something that she CLAIMED

the 'Abductor' had touched? Answer - the Child vanished on May 3rd, & from May 4th

onwards, you can see Kate clutching the Toy everywhere she went! NOT handing it to

the Police - for DNA Tests - but walking around with the Toy, & waiting until the 100th

Day, (or so), before suddenly claiming that the 'Abductor' had touched it on May 3rd!

 

Why were so many people taken in by this nonsense? Can people not tell when they

are being manipulated? THAT is what Gerry & Kate did from Day 1 - fooled a lot of

people.

 

Now, IF Gerry or Kate killed the Child, HOW & WHY was it done? Well, as the Parent's were

going out to the Tapas Bar every Night, they MAY have been Sedating the 3 Children

- to stop them crying, while they were out at the Bar. Madeleine may simply have been

given too much Sedative, on the Night she died. It would therefore be, 'Manslaughter',

IF it happened that way. As they would not have meant to kill her.

 

However, IF they DID kill her - even accidently - then it is the PRO McCann people

who will be the most angry - as THEY are the ones who fell for the lies, & the manipulations,

of Gerry & Kate. Those of us, who were suspicious from Day 1, have not actually let

Gerry & Kate make idiots of us!!!!!! Unfortunately - a frightening number of people

were taken in - including The Pope & Gordon Brown!!!!!

 

We shall see, what we shall see in this Case, now....I do NOT even know if

Gerry & Kate are 'Guilty' of Madeleine's Death - BUT, they HAVE told MANY lies!!!!!

Edited September 7, 200717 yr by zeus555

We will see if it is only his Wife who is Charged. I do NOT see how Gerry

cannot be Charged too - if Kate - IF - had something to do with Madeleine's

Death, then HE MUST HAVE KNOWN - to help cover it up! He shared the

Apartment with his Wife, for God's sake

 

There is a good chance imo that Gerry McCann did it.. on his own... I have always has suspicions about im and even though the parents were very, very, VERY irresponcible, i do think that Gerry MccCann could have something more than meets the eye :(

 

From BBC.CO.UK

 

Portuguese police believe the mother of missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann is involved in her death, a family spokeswoman has said.

Justine McGuinness said officers believed that traces of Madeleine's blood were in the McCanns' car, hired 25 days after she vanished.

 

Kate McCann underwent a second day of questioning by police on Friday.

 

She was named a suspect, or "arguida", by police. Her husband Gerry described the claims as "ludicrous".

 

He arrived at police headquarters in Portimao to face questioning as a witness at 1535 BST, minutes after Mrs McCann left.

 

The "suspect" status allows the authorities to put certain questions to Mrs McCann, and also gives her the right to remain silent.

 

The couple vehemently deny any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance on 3 May.

 

Shouts and whistles

 

Ms McGuinness said: "They [the police]believe they have evidence to show that in some way she's involved in the death of her daughter, which of course is completely ludicrous.

 

"They have suggested that blood has been found in a hire car that they hired 25 days after Madeleine was taken."

 

In his latest diary entry on a website publicising the search for Madeleine, Mr McCann wrote: "The suggestion that Kate is involved in Madeleine's disappearance is ludicrous.

 

"Anyone who knows anything about 3 May knows that Kate is completely innocent. We will fight this all the way and we will not stop looking for Madeleine."

 

THE NIGHT MADELEINE VANISHED

 

Kate McCann tucks Madeleine into bed in their ground floor apartment.

Mrs McCann and husband Gerry then go to a nearby tapas bar, which has a clear view to their apartment, to eat dinner.

The McCanns said in an interview they checked on their children every half an hour.

At about 2200 local time Mrs McCann returns to the apartment to find Madeleine missing from her bed.

She goes back to her husband at the restaurant to raise the alarm and police are called.

 

Meanwhile, friends of the family said that Mrs McCann has been told by her lawyer that she could be charged in connection with the disappearance of her daughter.

 

A large number of journalists and members of the public were outside the police station in Portimao to watch Mrs McCann arrive by car on Friday morning.

 

She entered the building to the sound of a few whistles and some shouts in Portuguese from the waiting crowd.

 

One British tourist shouted: "We believe you, Kate."

 

It is understood that Portuguese police have told Mrs McCann, 39, they have 22 questions they want to ask her during Friday's interview, although they have not told her what they are.

 

Lawyer present

 

Ms McGuinness said: "Just before the session ended last night, the police made it clear they had some further questions to ask which would require her to be in arguida status rather than just witness status."

 

She added: "She is shocked and surprised in several ways. First of all that such an accusation could be made against her. And obviously she is concerned that such a line of investigation can become a distraction from further attempts to find Madeleine."

 

Mr McCann, originally from Glasgow, arrived at the police station several hours later and went inside without speaking to reporters who gathered outside with members of the public.

 

It is not known whether he too will be questioned as a suspect.

 

Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared from the family's holiday apartment while her parents were eating in a nearby restaurant.

 

 

Mrs McCann had been interviewed by police the day after Madeleine disappeared, but yesterday was the first time her lawyer had been present.

 

She was questioned as a witness until after midnight on Thursday. Police have previously said the McCanns are not suspects.

 

In a statement released before her interview yesterday, she appealed to her daughter's abductors, saying: "It is not too late - please let her go or call the police."

 

She said: "We came to Portugal an ordinary family of five. We just want to know what happened on 3 May and want to be able to go home one family, reunited."

 

Mrs McCann will become the second formal suspect in the case. The first was Robert Murat, a British man living locally. He has not been arrested or charged.

 

Samples, including suspected traces of blood, have been recovered from the McCanns' holiday apartment.

 

The UK's Forensic Science Service has spent the past month analysing them.

 

A public statement from the director of police followed, saying neither Kate nor Gerry McCann had ever been viewed as suspects.

 

:mellow: -_- :angry:

Edited September 7, 200717 yr by J♦Ñη¥

According to Sky News Kate is going to be charged with the manslaughter (unintentional death) of Madeleine McCann

 

If she is convicted she has to be the most evil woman in history, denying her daughter a dignified burial, scamming £1m out of the public and the media, attempting to frame an innocent man (Murat) for what happened, lying to everyone and so on

 

Now this statement is going way to far.

 

So you think someone convicted of manslaughter is worse than someone convicted of murder.

 

OK, so according to you if guilty she is worse than Rose West, Myra Hindley or Tracie Andrews.

Hello,

But, we do not know if Gerry - the Husband - will also be Charged,

as yet - he is to be Interviewed today, I believe. (Anyhow, Kate is 'only'

a 'Suspect' - 'Arguido' - at this stage. She has NOT - yet - been Charged).

 

We will see if it is only his Wife who is Charged. I do NOT see how Gerry

cannot be Charged too - if Kate - IF - had something to do with Madeleine's

Death, then HE MUST HAVE KNOWN - to help cover it up! He shared the

Apartment with his Wife, for God's sake!

 

However, our Media will simply not stop defending the Parents.

 

I hear that Jeremy Vine has been saying that Kate is being 'framed',

by the Police! He has said this on BBC Radio, apparently - today.

 

'The Sun', has - today - done an Editorial, in which it says the

Portuguese Police are hopeless, & that they have no right to have asked

Kate in for questioning, yesterday. That Kate has suffered enough, & if

the Police are on a 'fishing expedition', (to get evidence from her), they

are a disgrace! In other words - 'The Sun', does not think that the Police

have ANY right to question either Kate or Gerry - because they are such

'wonderful' people, & so on! In fact, ALL Police Forces, in ALL Countries, get

evidence by asking people in for questioning - it is part of their job. It happens

in BRITAIN that way, too!

 

'The Sun', is so busy slagging off the Portuguese Police, that it forgets that

the fresh evidence really came from BRITISH Police, (& Dogs), who were

sent, over to assist the Portuguese Police! AND, the DNA Results are from a

BRITISH Laboratory! So, if 'The Sun', thinks that Gerry & Kate are wonderful,

innocent people, being treated badly - by c**p Portuguese Police - it MUST think

that the BRITISH Police & the Laboratory, that helped get the evidence, are c**p too!

 

I hear that Sky News have had an 'Expert' on, who claims that Portuguese Police

may have accidently contaminated Gerry & Kate's Car, & that the Couple are

innocent!

 

Gerry & Kate have brought it all on themselves - too many lies & contradictions

in their stories, from Day 1, & a scary number of UK people too trusting, or naive,

to realise that they were being lied to.

 

Anyone who dared to even say that Gerry & Kate had no right to leave their 3

Kids in bed, to go out, was called, 'Evil', & 'Cruel', by the UK Media.

 

At Channel 4 Forums, any Threads that dared to criticise Gerry & Kate,

- in ANY way - were removed by their Moderators.

 

The UK Press only published Letters that supported Gerry & Kate.

 

The UK Media told the World that 'everyone' in the UK was 100% supportive

of Gerry & Kate, & this was a LIE - as many, many Internet Posts were

against the Parents. 'The Sun' proclaimed that '38,000 readers' had Posted

in its Madeleine Thread - not mentioning that about 60% or 70% of the Posts

were saying that Gerry & Kate should be charged with Child Neglect!

 

And in the meantime, Gerry was saying ridiculous things - like how finding his

Daughter missing, was like going to a Cash Machine - as a Student - & finding you

had no money left in your Account!

 

Kate came up with a story that a Day, or so, before she vanished, (May 3rd),

Madeleine told her:, 'Mummy, I've had the best day ever' - when I know of NO

Child of 3 or 4, who would talk like THAT! It is more like what a 8 or 9 Year old

would say - it was CLEARLY a 'quote' that Madeleine never said - her precious

Mother made it up! (To play on Public Sympathy).

 

That has been the trouble from Day 1 - too much unquestioning support of Gerry

& Kate, & too many people who were unable to realise that they were actually

hearing contradictory stories, from the Parents, & so on.

 

Then there was, 'Cuddle Cat'. It is supposed to be Madeleine's 'Favourite Toy',

& her Mother waited until about 100 DAYS after the Child had vanished, to suddenly

announce that whoever had 'Abducted' Madeleine, had taken the Toy off her, &

put it on a high shelf, or cupboard!

 

So, what did Kate do with this vital piece of evidence - something that she CLAIMED

the 'Abductor' had touched? Answer - the Child vanished on May 3rd, & from May 4th

onwards, you can see Kate clutching the Toy everywhere she went! NOT handing it to

the Police - for DNA Tests - but walking around with the Toy, & waiting until the 100th

Day, (or so), before suddenly claiming that the 'Abductor' had touched it on May 3rd!

 

Why were so many people taken in by this nonsense? Can people not tell when they

are being manipulated? THAT is what Gerry & Kate did from Day 1 - fooled a lot of

people.

 

Now, IF Gerry or Kate killed the Child, HOW & WHY was it done? Well, as the Parent's were

going out to the Tapas Bar every Night, they MAY have been Sedating the 3 Children

- to stop them crying, while they were out at the Bar. Madeleine may simply have been

given too much Sedative, on the Night she died. It would therefore be, 'Manslaughter',

IF it happened that way. As they would not have meant to kill her.

 

However, IF they DID kill her - even accidently - then it is the PRO McCann people

who will be the most angry - as THEY are the ones who fell for the lies, & the manipulations,

of Gerry & Kate. Those of us, who were suspicious from Day 1, have not actually let

Gerry & Kate make idiots of us!!!!!! Unfortunately - a frightening number of people

were taken in - including The Pope & Gordon Brown!!!!!

 

We shall see, what we shall see in this Case, now....I do NOT even know if

Gerry & Kate are 'Guilty' of Madeleine's Death - BUT, they HAVE told MANY lies!!!!!

 

A Post of the Week nomination is surely in the bag for this brilliant post.

 

According to the latest I hear on Radio 5 Live it looks like there will be another 'Arguido' in the next few hours.

 

I don't think we need more than one guess to work out who that will be.

 

The bottom line is that one of the first things the Portuguese police should have done was investigate the legitimacy of the McCanns story, to rule them in or out of contention, especially as they were the last known people to see Madeleine McCann alive.

 

 

I have to say... and I hate saying this because I really hate being wrong. I made the assumption that the McCanns were normal, nice, law abiding people and argued that their only (very massive) error was negligance. But I read an article in The Sun about them at work yesterday and all the photos were completely posed for and they hardly looked like they were grieving the loss of their daughter. As you say, they've made a hell of a lot of money from the press I imagine.

And if/when they are arrested the gutter press won't turn on them quickly. They hate to be proved wrong even more than me :lol:

This whole thing is getting beyond a joke now, and has been turned into some pantomime. The Portuguese police are a disgrace, it has been over four months, and this is only happening now? What a joke. They question Kate for 11 hours and let her then go home for the night? Why on earth would they do such a thing if she is a suspect? Then she comes back in for a further 5 hours of questioning and is let go yet AGAIN? :rolleyes: Clearly whatever evidence the police now have is not at all credible enough to actually keep her, or charge her. Earlier on the media said she was made a formal suspect so the police could ask her 22 questions which they had'nt asked before. So I presume they will be asking Gerry similar questions, so why let Kate go home, surely that would give him a chance to prepare asnwers? Also, why not question them both at the same time in different rooms, and them compare their answers? The whole thing makes little sence.

 

I can't see after 16 hours and no charge made, that she will be charged. The police havn't even gave a statment confirming this story of Maddie's blood being found in some car. And Sky News are such a joke of a station, one minute they say they hired the car 25 days after she went missing, then it's 5 weeks. Since when is five days a week? And in the first month, the McCanes could'nt go anywhere seemingly without being followed and pics being constantly taken, so I really do not see how this idea could be true about them hiding her body somewhere, and then 25 days later, somehow take her body into their car are bringing it somewhere else. I mean the body must've been quite far away from the place to start with considering the massive search for her all over the place, and I they seemed to get followed everywhere by the media so it does not seem likely. And why was it just Kate that was made a suspect, surely if they suspected this happened, Gerry should've been taken into the station stright away? And apperently one of the reasons questioning takes so long as due to the police having to write down every single thing thats said. They don't even video record it or even tape record the interview. :huh: Hopefully some sort of official statement will be made soon as I am sick of hearing Sky News make things up as they go along.

too many here are already throwing the rope over the nearest tree.... NOTHING yet has been proved, NOTHING yet has come to light to suggest that they are directly responsable, i still think the portugese plods are clutching at straws.

 

lets hear some tangible EVIDENCE that they are implicated.

 

 

myra hindley and rose west are infinately more evil then the mccanns even IF they are guilty.

Well, these may not be true - they may be false rumours - but, it is being said

that at least one of the British Dogs reacted to a smell from the 'Cuddle Cat' Toy

- and the Dog is trained to react to the smell of a corpse!

 

It is being said that this matter has been put to Kate, by the Police,

& she has ADMITTED that there may well be a smell of 'Death' on the

Toy, as she takes it to WORK with her sometimes, & has to attend to dead

bodies etc! So the Toy may well have come into contact with one of the

dead bodies whilst she was working!

 

I hear that she is a PART TIME GP. Whoever heard of a GP carrying a

Cuddly Toy to Work, & even having it when he or she attends to dead people?

 

Anyhow, this may simply be an untrue rumour, as several Weeks ago it was said

Kate had admitted to washing the Toy - just before the British Dogs arrived!

 

So, it is hard to know what is true & what is not.

 

Also, someone has said that a few Days before May 3rd, (when the

Child vanished), Gerry & Kate had to be told to go back to their Apartment,

because Madeleine had been screaming for her Parents for a few Hours!

Apparently, Gerry was very annoyed that he had to leave the Bar to go to

attend to Madeleine.

 

This story was told to someone in Portugal by an ex-British Police Man, who

says he was at the Bar that Night! IF it is true, it just makes the Parent's look like

they saw their 3 Children as nuisances - who were spoiling their trips to

the Bar!

 

***ALSO - I hear that one of the McCann Family has now told Sky News - on Air

- that even IF Madeleine died in the Apartment by accident, it is NOT a crime!

Yes it IS - it is MANSLAUGHTER - by whoever did it! (& HUGE trouble for anyone who

helped cover the matter up, too!).

 

As for FACTS - well, Sky News has been on the Parent's side from Day 1,

& it will not stop now. It keeps having Interviews with other members

of the McCann Family, & these Family members are saying all sorts.

Mostly that Gerry & Kate are 100% innocent, but also that the Portuguese Police

are useless, & so on. (They forget that UK Police have been helping the Portuguese

Police for Months! They go on as if it is a bunch of 'Foreign' Cops, out to frame,

a 'Wonderful Golden Couple'!!!!!!).

 

Earlier today I watched 'This Morning' on ITV1, & they had one of Madeleine's

Grand Mothers on the 'phone. I think it must have been Gerry's Mum, as she was

Scottish, like him. Anyhow, the Grand Mother was saying that Gerry & Kate were

innocent, & how can they have harmed Madeleine, when one of Gerry & Kate's Friends

said she saw a Man running away - with a Child in a blanket - that Night.

 

The Female Presenter was shaking her head - in agreement with the Grand Mother

- clearly agreeing that the Police have it in for Gerry & Kate!

This is another problem - the UK Media INSISTS on agreeing with everything

that the McCann Family says! They are never, ever criticised! (Also, the Friend of

the McCanns CLAIMED that she saw the Man with a Child - it does NOT mean that

the Friend was telling the truth!).

 

I have never known our Media to be so one sided in such a matter - from Day 1

it decided that Kate & Gerry were terrific people, & that they were 'Victims', &

even now, much of our Media will not stop doing that!

 

It is just making them look more & more foolish, as they have done so many

Articles etc. telling us how 'wonderful' & 'brave' Gerry & Kate are, that they have

sided 100% with the McCanns, & IF it turns out that Gerry & Kate did 'it', the UK

Media will look even more stupid than it already does!

 

I am dying to see how, 'The Sun', reacts IF Gerry & Kate did 'it' - it has refused to

accept that Gerry & Kate should even be questioned by the Police - let alone that

they may have harmed their Child!

 

I suspect that many Pro-McCann Columnists will simply make out that they 'knew all

along', that Gerry & Kate were lying, but they did not say anything, as they did not

want to harm the Police Enquiry! Fine! BUT, THAT does NOT explain why those

Columnists did Articles - saying that Gerry & Kate were terrific, & anyone who

was suspicious of them, were the Scum of the Earth!!!!! (I LOATHE Journalists!).

 

And, I realise that many people are saying that we have to see if Gerry & Kate

are guilty of any crime, & that some of us sound like a 'Lynch Mob'.

 

ROBERT MURAT - I would remind everyone, that when HE was named as a Suspect,

the UK Media crucified him! He was shown no mercy. They even paid his Ex-Wife for

Interviews - to say private things about him. They also interviewed people - who used

to know him - & portrayed him as a 'Weirdo', who may well be guilty of 'taking'

Madeleine.

 

Yet, the minute the Parents start getting put under Police suspicion, people say,

'Hey! They have not been found guilty of anything!' etc.

No doubt, the UK Media will say the same thing - but it is 100% Hypocrisy, as the UK

Media showed Zero mercy to Robert Murat - as it WANTED him to be guilty - just as

it WANTS Gerry & Kate to be 'Wonderful People'.

 

I feel sorry for the idiotic Sports Stars who joined in the Campaign! It was

obviously too much for their tiny brains to work out that these cases are most often

caused by FAMILY MEMBERS of the dead or missing Child - so to be on the

safe side, the intelligent thing would have been for ALL 'Famous People' to keep well

out of this matter - rather than be stooges for Team McCann!!!!

 

It is ridiculous that Gordon Brown got involved too - the British Prime Minister,

& too stupid to realise that he had better NOT get involved, as one is never really sure

who is truly guilty, until a Trial - if there is one. I cannot believe have naive GB was!

What a Prat he is!!!!!

 

Oh - The Pope got involved too - and The Vatican HAD Photos of the McCanns on its

Web Site - it has now REMOVED ALL TRACES of the McCanns from its Site - the Catholic

Church obviously realises that it should never - ever - have got the Pope to meet Gerry

& Kate. It was a huge error. You never, ever meet potential Suspects, & treat them like

'Innocent Victims'.....

Edited September 7, 200717 yr by zeus555

One of the reasons us Brits (& especially the English) are disliked by (at least) in the rest of Europe is due to our superiority complex when dealing with "Johnny Foreigner", in so far as we (at the very least the media & the press) naturally assume that we are innocent and it is Johnny Foreigner's fault.

 

Here is a classic example:

Rooney vs Ronaldo - 2006 World Cup Conflict

I thnk that the police are starting to come to their senses now... finaly releasing what a lot (on this forum at least) have been thinking...

One of the reasons us Brits (& especially the English) are disliked by (at least) in the rest of Europe is due to our superiority complex when dealing with "Johnny Foreigner", in so far as we (at the very least the media & the press) naturally assume that we are innocent and it is Johnny Foreigner's fault.

 

Here is a classic example:

Rooney vs Ronaldo - 2006 World Cup Conflict

There's nothing wrong with that,tThe England team are honest and don't try and trick the ref

 

Don't get me wrong Ronaldo's great for Utd but he's a git when playing for Portugal :o

 

I know little about Foot Ball, but I think that Ronaldo is fantastic looking, &

also, I have seen him move with the ball in United Matches, & he plays

the best that I have ever seen anyone play. He moves as if there are

no other Players to tackle him. However, I have seen how he likes to

pretend to be 'fouled' so much - he falls down! He sees if he can fool

the Referee.

 

I feel guilty now - saying this in a Madeleine Thread!

 

 

Madeleine: Mum 'Offered Deal To Confess'

Sky News Updated: 20:41, Friday September 07, 2007

 

Kate McCann has been named as a formal suspect in the "death" of her missing four-year-old daughter Madeleine.

A family member has claimed she was offered a deal by police - that she would serve only two years in prison if she admitted accidentally killing her daughter.

 

Police are said to believe that Madeleine was killed accidentally and that her body was hidden, then moved and hidden again.

 

They are not treating Madeleine's disappearance as murder.

 

There have been reports that Mrs McCann, 39, is likely to be charged with causing the accidental death of her daughter.

 

She was questioned by police again today but released without being charged. Detectives quizzed her for 11 hours yesterday.

 

Police have suggested that Madeleine's blood was found in a car hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter's disappearance.

 

Gerry McCann's sister Philomena said Mrs McCann was offered a deal through her lawyer to confess to killing her daughter by accident and then disposing of her daughter.

 

Mr McCann is now being questioned in the same police station in Portimao, Portugal.

 

Before he arrived he said that any suggestion that his wife was involved in Madeleine's disappearance from their holiday apartment on May 3 was "ludicrous".

 

Writing on his blog he said: "Anyone who knows anything about May 3 knows that Kate is completely innocent. We will fight this all the way and we will not stop looking for Madeleine."

 

Mrs McCann's father Brian Healy told Sky News: "It would be a joke if it wasn't so disgusting. My daughter's not like that. I just want to hug her."

 

Family and friends in Rothley, Leicestershire, have said there is "something untoward" in the police investigation. Mrs McCann's mother Susan Healy has suggested that evidence may have been planted in the hired car.

 

Portuguese police have confirmed that they have a new formal suspect - or arguida - in the case but did not identify them. However, family friends have said that Kate McCann is that suspect.

 

The only person previously named as a suspect is British expat Robert Murat. He has denied any involvement.

 

Sky News crime correspondent Martin Brunt said Mrs McCann, who has returned to her home after being questioned by police again today, reportedly remains concerned that she could be charged very soon.

 

The McCann family spokeswoman Justine McGuiness said: "The police are treating Kate as if she is involved in the death of her daughter.

 

"That suggestion hasn't been put to Gerry, so they are treating them differently. It is a ridiculous suggestion."

 

A large crowd whistled and shouted as Mrs McCann arrived back in Portimao for more questioning.

 

One British tourist shouted: "We believe you, Kate." But there seemed to be jeers from other people in the crowd.

 

Portuguese criminal law expert Luis Rolo told Sky News: "To be named an arguida means the police already have a few suspicions that this person might have committed a crime."

 

He said a judge may now ask Mrs McCann to hand over her passport or impose other conditions on her behaviour.

 

A friend of the McCanns said of Kate: "She is shocked and surprised in several ways. First of all that such an accusation could be made against her.

 

"And obviously she is concerned that such a line of investigation can become a distraction from further attempts to find Madeleine."

 

Now this statement is going way to far.

 

So you think someone convicted of manslaughter is worse than someone convicted of murder.

 

OK, so according to you if guilty she is worse than Rose West, Myra Hindley or Tracie Andrews.

 

I am not talking about the actual killing itself I am talking about the whole set of affairs

 

1) Wasting the time of several police forces internationally with total costs of police time involved likely running into tens of millions and other crimes being put on the back burner

 

2) Manipulating the media and the public into donating £1m to a fighting fund

 

3) Drawing people like the pope, prime minister and so on into their little deception

 

4) Lying and cheating everyone for months on end

 

5) Disposing of probably in gruesome fashion their own beloved daughter

 

I am not comparing in terms of evil and number of people killed Kate McCann and Hindley, West and so on I am looking at the whole picture including things I outlined above

I am not talking about the actual killing itself I am talking about the whole set of affairs

 

1) Wasting the time of several police forces internationally with total costs of police time involved likely running into tens of millions and other crimes being put on the back burner

 

2) Manipulating the media and the public into donating £1m to a fighting fund

 

3) Drawing people like the pope, prime minister and so on into their little deception

 

4) Lying and cheating everyone for months on end

 

5) Disposing of probably in gruesome fashion their own beloved daughter

 

I am not comparing in terms of evil and number of people killed Kate McCann and Hindley, West and so on I am looking at the whole picture including things I outlined above

 

Nope, I still think looking at the whole picture your comparison is in very very poor taste and if I was a lawyer for the McCanns then I would have no hesitation in trying to get this site taken offline for this utterly offensive comparison. :arrr:

 

I hate to say this, but they are bound to lose their other children to the social services, if the evidence is true, that they killed the girl, talk about shooting themselves in the foot, they won't be allowed access to those children, they have lost their family all together.