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Upon reflection they were a bit daft (or rather their record company was). If they'd have released a week or two earlier they'd have easily had their 11th number one. But to be honest - I think I prefer it like this ... I think the competition from Leona upped the ante - and improved everyone's sales for a few weeks. And in doing so made it a good week for record sales.

 

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Surely the release date was tied in with the release of the movie in an attempt to gain the maximum associated cross-promotional benefits from that? The song has been used in adverts for the film, and during various reviews on TV etc plus should have got a boost from those who went to the cinema.

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Surely the release date was tied in with the release of the movie in an attempt to gain the maximum associated cross-promotional benefits from that? The song has been used in adverts for the film, and during various reviews on TV etc plus should have got a boost from those who went to the cinema.

 

Oh who stays for the credits of a film these days though? Even I didn't and I'm a TT fan! And although it was number 1 at the UK box-office for a week - it hasn't really set the world alight. I went to see it in its first week of release, and the cinema was about a tenth full - and that would be an exaggeration. Shame too - because the film was excellent. It was good to see Robert DeNiro in a frock! Apart from the first week I didn't see much advertising for the film on the telly. As far as I know - from reviews of the film (that I've read that is) the song wasn't mentioned at all. Even JR didn't mention it (the song I mean) on his film review program. They should have released it a couple of weeks earlier (especially when they saw how the film bombed in the States).

 

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Me and my friends were discussing where Keane`s The Night Sky, should be had it not been disqualified. In HMV in our area, it was just about neck and neck with Akon. So we reckon it should be around no` 22. Anyone?

I had some info, on this yesterday, but I forgot to put it on the MRIB info...KEANE should have been 23, on that chart, but we try to stay most upto date as possible, so we took it out. It seems a fore-gone conclusion, that it should be somewhere between 19 and 27, in the Official chart...thats what we have come up with, anyway!!

66 68 61 Snow Patrol Chasing Cars

 

And people are still downloading this because…

 

57 N 1 Michael Jackson Thriller

70 N 1 Ray Parker Jr Ghostbusters

 

Strictly speaking, shouldn't these be re-entries?

And people are still downloading this because…

Strictly speaking, shouldn't these be re-entries?

Yea, although Musicweek don't have a concept of a re-entry any more.

Yea, although Musicweek don't have a concept of a re-entry any more.

 

So I take it last week's chart wasn't from Musicweek, since it lists A Moment Like This has the re-entry that it was.

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So I take it last week's chart wasn't from Musicweek, since it lists A Moment Like This has the re-entry that it was.

 

The chart was taken from MW, they even list Thriller and Ghostbusters as a new entry, when its might to be a re-entry.

 

So I take it last week's chart wasn't from Musicweek, since it lists A Moment Like This has the re-entry that it was.

Mikey or another mod has edited it to make it (RE) and not (NEW).

 

However it's not really a precise science as old tracks can be released with a new catalogue number and are technically new or old ones can come back on downloads, only then to be re-leased afterwards as new.

 

Downloads don't have a catalogue number as such and since the ability of singles to chart(or re-chart) without a physical equivalent, then whether an old track is really a new or re-entry is a matter of what happens to it's physical later. Last year the OCC knew if it was going to be a re-leased as the physical release required two weeks notice - in which time the download was counted. That no long applies as downloads can now happen without a physical.

So to save confusion and such stuff that doesn't make sense anymore, just have no more reentries.

 

So a few months back musicweek only has new and nothing anymore is classed as a re-entry.

 

BTW another example of a different but related issue: a single from Timbaland (maybe the 'Give It To Me' track) that was released new for downloads on one catalogue number and that switched labels while in the charts to technically appear new again a few weeks later rather then as a chart mover.

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The chart was taken from MW, they even list Thriller and Ghostbusters as a new entry, when its might to be a re-entry.

'Might' being the key word! :dance:

 

If an old track enters but has not a physical re-lease then it's really a re-entry of the old track, while if there is actually a physical re-run which then has a new catalogue number then for sure it's then going to be 'NEW', yet if it has the old catalogue number or only selling old copies of the single then technically it's not.

 

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What bothers me is the Elvis tracks, on MW they list them as new entries, when they are re-issues. Probably because they are repackaged onto a CD with a different cat no., back in the 60s CDs never existed.
The chart was taken from MW, they even list Thriller and Ghostbusters as a new entry, when its might to be a re-entry.

Strictly they are RE-ENTRIES as they are the original versions of the songs.

Had they been different mixes or re-recordings then they would be new entries.

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