Posted November 11, 200717 yr This guy to me was always a Kylie doubter i remember his comments when kylie got number 1 with spinning around and cant get you out of my head he dissed her then aswell anyhow for this week he has this to say Then there is Kylie Minogue, easily the music phenomenon of her generation. From humble beginnings in the late 80s as a bubble-permed soap star, the Australian singer has somehow rode the wave of fashion and musical tastes and styles with a career that, save for a late 90s blip, has kept her near the top of the charts for what will soon be two decades. Blessed with little musical talent of her own, she somehow became the empty vessel of choice, songwriters and producers queuing up have her perform their work so they could bask in reflected glory. It was a formula which was still producing Top 5 hits until early 2005 when her career came to a necessary halt after she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Now Kylie was making headlines of a different kind, the result being that she has hardly been out of the papers as she battled the disease successfully, convalesced and then made plans to pick up her career where she left off. No longer just "Kylie" she is now "Brave Kylie" and the attention around her own comeback single was needless to say, enormous. All of the above makes the chart positions of the two singles (both released as downloads) this week all the more surprising. It is Kylie who runs out the winner, '2 Hearts' picking up sales after a slow start to land at Number 12. The Spice Girls fare even worse however, their brand new song 'Headlines (Friendship Never Ends)' creeps almost apologetically into view at Number 20. Now admittedly this is just after one week of online sales, but let us face facts here. These are two hugely anticipated new releases from big name acts which have received copious and favourable press attention but which have announced themselves to the world as mid table hits. Compare that with the maligned and dare I say it, sneered at Britney Spears single 'Gimmie More' which shrugged off the bad press to charge into the Top 3 in its own download week. Make all the excuses you want, but something somewhere has misfired for both acts. So just what has gone wrong? In both cases you have to argue that the singles are rather poor choices. Given that just three years ago Kylie was collaborating with the Scissor Sisters on 'I Believe In You', one of her best singles ever never mind of the last few years, '2 Hearts' feels like a giant step backwards. It is a boldly experimental single, a thundering electronic track first recorded by Kish Mauve and who have also produced Kylie's version. It is not that it is bad, just that it is a world away from the bright, elegant pop-dance single that would have announced to the world that she is BACK BABY and become a surefire hit from the word go.
November 11, 200717 yr WEll she's obviously not talentless :lol: But songwriters and producers do queue up to work with her, and incredibly for X she's managed to work only with the most commercial and dull choices (save for Kish Mauve on 2 Hearts), leaving out collaberations with Scissor Sisters, Groove Armada etc. Christ, we know her and the Sisters can come up with magic after Believe and Diamond! Edited November 11, 200717 yr by Jark
November 11, 200717 yr Author he fails to acknowledge her with any credibilty i always find, im sure he would love writing up a report on a kylie single flopping
November 12, 200717 yr I wouldn't worry about one acid-tongued critic. How ever many Kylie has, Dannii has a thousand more! :lol:
November 12, 200717 yr Author yes indeed dannii has many more critics but i think dannii has turned the tide a bit in her favour and lately its great to see kylie and dannii linked in so many positive ways together also, a duet really should be looked into i think as a single
November 12, 200717 yr That is my biggest 'no'. :lol: The single biggest criticism by far of Dannii is that she scrounges off her sister's fame. If a single was released I can only imagine the incredible hounding she'd get from the press :( It'd be terrible! However a performance together, at an awards show or something, would be really cool. ^_^
November 12, 200717 yr Author ithink dannii has turned that tide now, x factor will and has changed that, a single would show how well they would work together, but i also see what you are saying and are probably right
November 12, 200717 yr :lol: I guess we'll really know if public perception has changed when Touch Me Like That charts.
November 12, 200717 yr Author well yes and no, the press alone has changed only a week or so ago we seen a big promotion for dannii's album and the press was positive, that never happened on the sun's biz pages before, sometimes dannii's singles didnt do well as they were well not good, it wasnt because they were dannii songs
November 12, 200717 yr Well I agree that pretty much everything taken from Love & Kisses and Get Into You were utter rubbish, but then again every single since All I Wanna Do (barr Everything I Wanted) has been sheer dance-pop brilliance! That's nine singles, of which four have flopped. :( Still, Neon Nights did prove that when things come together she can be a success.
November 12, 200717 yr Author im not a big dannii fan but i must say i have got to like her alot more letely as i guess we have got to see more of her personality lately than ever before. pre neon nights i only ever liked this is it which i bought, however since i bought her greatest hits i have really got to llike disrememberance a lot, from neon nights i loved who do you love now and i begin to wonder and i also love love fight which should have been a single plus i also love so under pressure, everything else i dont listen to at all. i do like the new single its not her best but its certainly among her best for me and i prefer it to kylie's 2 hearts.
November 12, 200717 yr 'Everything I Wanted' is BRILLIANCE! :angry: My favourite track from the Girl era.
November 12, 200717 yr Author I didnt like it at the time but then i didnt hear it alot but yes now i think its brilliant and should have done better than number 21, i think all i wanna do deserved number 21 and did rememberance deserved number 4
November 12, 200717 yr I'd find Disremembrance better if it had more bearable production on it. :( I need to check out the remixes as it is a great song, I could love it more.
November 12, 200717 yr I absolutely adore All I Wanna Do. It's nothing short of epic and kick started her career doing dance, which is what suits her best. However I can't get into Everything I Wanted in the slightest. It's video is just laughable too. :lol: Disrememberance is also epic; a true, underrated high point in Dannii's music career in my mind.
November 12, 200717 yr Author i agree about dis rememberance jark, everything i wanted is ok but i always felt the song went nowhere, i remember all iwanna do it annoyed me so so much i just never got into it plus at thattime i was huge into kylie's impossible princess as i adored amd still adore breathe and some kind of bliss
November 12, 200717 yr :lol: I love how Some Kind Of Bliss limped into the UK chart at #22 the month after Dannii was riding high at #4. Cruel of me, I know. :P But I don't much like SKOB, especially compared with the genius of All I Wanna Do.
November 12, 200717 yr :lol: I love how Some Kind Of Bliss limped into the UK chart at #22 the month after Dannii was riding high at #4. Cruel of me, I know. :P But I don't much like SKOB, especially compared with the genius of All I Wanna Do. However, the album 'Some Kind Of Bliss' was from managed #10, while the album 'All I Wanna Do' was from could only make #57. :( :P