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as scott (grimley) points out, the idea of starting the thread was to debate/discuss what we thought about one of the most popular programme on tvs crimbo special.

 

Nice to see your adult attitude there. -_-

I've just noticed. Kylie's single is called 2 Hearts and the doctor has 2 hearts and she fell in love with the doctor :o

 

"2 Hearts Are Beating Together, I'm In Love"

Edited December 26, 200717 yr by Just Adam

Christopher Eccleston and Billie Piper were a very hard act to follow.

I stopped watching after the Werewolf episode (That in itself wasn't a bad programme, quite good infact), but for me the spark that had been there wasn't anymore and I haven't watched a Doctor Who episode, Xmas or otherwise since, til this year.

I enjoyed it, it was good fun, but I probably wouldn't watch it regulary again.

What makes me chuckle is people saying that the Shot crew member holding the fort rather than being slouched on the floor wasn't very realistic. True, but all I can say is, I never realised you could be beamed on and off a space ship in real life :D

Merry Xmas everyone :friends:

 

Oh, and something else I meant to say.

I also liked Peter Cushing as the Doctor and one scene that always makes me laugh is when the Doctor, Roy Castle and a girl called Susan I think, are trapped by the Daleks in this small white cell and they look around to think of how to escape and after awhile Susan pipes up and say something like "Look, there's a camera up there in the corner", and they react as if they never saw it and then the "studio camera" pans around and you see this great big black TV monitor in the corner. Brilliant :lol:

Edited December 27, 200717 yr by Sound-Bite

Oh, and something else I meant to say.

I also liked Peter Cushing as the Doctor and one scene that always makes me laugh is when the Doctor, Roy Castle and a girl called Susan I think, are trapped by the Daleks in this small white cell and they look around to think of how to escape and after awhile Susan pipes up and say something like "Look, there's a camera up there in the corner", and they react as if they never saw it and then the "studio camera" pans around and you see this great big black TV monitor in the corner. Brilliant :lol:

 

lol... well in all fairness that was the feature film, not the bbc serial... however, its very true that you really didnt have too look too hard to find major faults with the script and set!!! lol. and remember the daleks coming out of the thames?... PMSL! wtf were they doing there? fishing?... :lol:

I always thought Doctor Who was a real serious programme, where the characters where suppose to scare or when it had a massive complicated plot that got you thinking. Not something that my little brother would watch. :rofl:

 

Spot on.. The storytelling in Dr Who now is just garbage, apart from the occasional scripts from Steven Moffat (who wrote the excellent, and pretty scary storyline about the living statues as well as the best story in the series ever - "The Empty Child"), Moffat then went on to craft the superb sci-fi series "Jekyll" which was a pretty awesome modern retranslation of the Louis Stevenson classic "The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde", best drama series the beeb put out in '07 IMHO... Science Fiction should not be this silly little kids' thing, at its very best it should be intelligent, though-provoking stuff (if you look to the origins of the genre - Mary Shelley, HG Wells and others, then you can see that this is NOT kids stuff..) - I was watching "Battlestar Galactica - Razor" last night, and all I can say is that in terms of great sci-fi storylines and intelligent, thought provoking scripts, BG absolutely sh!ts all over Dr Who, and it knows how to use its SFX effectively.... In fact, the audio book Dr Who stuff is galaxies ahead of the current TV stuff.....

This is the essence of the whole problem for me, the fact that "Dr Who" does seem to be becoming a bloody CBBC kid's drama for 5-10 year olds, and has been ever since David Tenant took the reins from Chris Eccleston.. Well, sorry, but this is what you have the "Sarah Jane Adventures" for, "Dr Who" should be a universal drama, that you can enjoy as a kid for the action and adventure elements, but look back on as an adult and enjoy the great storytelling (as the original series managed so brilliantly to do, and was actually happening on season one, but NOW, it just seems to be utterly immature....). Too many stories in the past two seasons have been completely uninspired, repetitive, noisy-for-noisy sake and not enough real plot meat has been in evidence... As far as I'm concerned there has been really NO current Dr Who storyline to match the standard of the brilliant "Empty Child" two parter back in series one.... Oh, but of course, the problem with that one was that it was "too scary" wasn't it (because of course a plot-line centred around the WW2 blitz should be all 'nicey nice' eh..)....? <_<

 

This episode was like a big, pretty, garishly coloured, fascinating looking box.... But open up the box, and, oh dear, not really much inside.... A bit of a disappointing christmas present.... :(

 

To answer the person who criticised Rob for starting a "didn't really like it" topic... Well, why shouldn't he..? Why should ALL topics started be all "happy smiley, everything's great"..? Rob wanted to stimulate debate and opinion.....

yeah but doctor who always has been for the under 12's.

 

all the old episodes were clearly aimed at kids. if you rewatch AN UNEARTHLY CHILD, its obviously not aimed at adults. its a childs programme

 

yeah but doctor who always has been for the under 12's.

 

all the old episodes were clearly aimed at kids. if you rewatch AN UNEARTHLY CHILD, its obviously not aimed at adults. its a childs programme

 

Nonsense, it's always been aimed at kids AND adults, which is my whole point (which you clearly missed...). The kids enjoy the fantasy/sci-fi elements, the adults enjoy a good, well told yarn... I can happily sit back and look at old Pertwee, Tom Baker, Troughton, etc episodes at my age (35) and really enjoy the storylines (stuff like "Curse of Fenric" is hardly for kiddies, ffs).... I find myself getting more and more irritated by the sheer brainlessness of the new stuff to the point where I will probably just desert the show as I did back in the day when it was McCoy and Langford (and that was when I was about 12/13, but that annoying ginger bint Bonnie Langford just irritated the fukk out of me....) -_-

if you rewatch AN UNEARTHLY CHILD, its obviously not aimed at adults. its a childs programme

 

I think you are somewhat confused mate, the storyline I'm talking about is the "Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" two part storyline set in the blitz during WW2, the one with the little zombie kid in the gas mask going around asking "Are You My Mummy?".... A really eerie, chilling, but ultimately quite sad and poignant storyline. Great storytelling.... We need more of this...

I think you are somewhat confused mate, the storyline I'm talking about is the "Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" two part storyline set in the blitz during WW2, the one with the little zombie kid in the gas mask going around asking "Are You My Mummy?".... A really eerie, chilling, but ultimately quite sad and poignant storyline. Great storytelling.... We need more of this...

im saying you should watch an unearthy child, you know, the 1st episode ever. its very childish.

 

but the mccoy years moved away from that, episode like curse of fenric, battlefield and survival had much more adultish themes and more depthy storylines

im saying you should watch an unearthy child, you know, the 1st episode ever. its very childish.

 

To be fair, it's the FIRST storyline, the show was trying to find its feet.... And at least William Hartnell had a quite amusing "grumpy old git" factor about him.... :lol:

 

To be fair, it's the FIRST storyline, the show was trying to find its feet.... And at least William Hartnell had a quite amusing "grumpy old git" factor about him.... :lol:

i havent watched a good old hartnell in ages.

 

im gonna go and watch Daleks invasion of earth right now!

tonights special was pretty lame, easily the worst episode since its ressurection.

 

I have to disagree. The Xmas 2006 special was the most boring so far. As will most of the next series. Why? Because Catherine Tate is in them. She's the worst assistant Dr. Who has EVER had.

She can't act & I just can't stand the woman.

 

i havent watched a good old hartnell in ages.

 

im gonna go and watch Daleks invasion of earth right now!

 

I agree - now come along my child.

 

I have to disagree. The Xmas 2006 special was the most boring so far. As will most of the next series. Why? Because Catherine Tate is in them. She's the worst assistant Dr. Who has EVER had.

She can't act & I just can't stand the woman.

I dont think she's BOVVERED what you think.

 

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yeah but doctor who always has been for the under 12's.

 

all the old episodes were clearly aimed at kids. if you rewatch AN UNEARTHLY CHILD, its obviously not aimed at adults. its a childs programme

 

dr who has always been aimed at the family, it was always progged with both children and their parents in mind... like 'star trek' was. it has never been a 'kids programme'. hence its traditional slot on a saturday tea time. adults lost interest when the ideas got really lame and the scripts suffered (the mcccoy/langford years), though the rot set in with the addition of 'k9' which was obviously created to appeal to kids. hartnell, troughton, pertwee, baker (tom... voice on lit brit), had the best storylines (although pertwee became stuck on earth....booorrring).

It's was harmless entertainment but i found it incredibly cheesey and it seemed those people following the Docter where just dieing for fun towrds the end. For instance I'm sure Kylies character could of easily put the brakes on after that guy fell over the cliff or atleast jumped out the side but she decided to go over aswell and make us endure a silly slow motion 'emotional' scene of her falling into the fire

It's was harmless entertainment but i found it incredibly cheesey and it seemed those people following the Docter where just dieing for fun towrds the end. For instance I'm sure Kylies character could of easily put the brakes on after that guy fell over the cliff or atleast jumped out the side but she decided to go over aswell and make us endure a silly slow motion 'emotional' scene of her falling into the fire

 

just one of many riddiculous scenes m8.

she decided to go over aswell and make us endure a silly slow motion 'emotional' scene of her falling into the fire

 

That was just the cheesiest piece of c**p going mate.... I just got flashbacks to Ripley falling into the fire in "Alien 3" tbh (but there was a hell of lot more dramatic gravitas in that scene...), what a total rip-off

 

(although pertwee became stuck on earth....booorrring).

 

I didn't really object to that so much tbh, at least there were valid plot reasons for it, not just because the scriptwriters couldn't be bovvered coming up with a decent alien planet plotline.... <_<

 

I didn't really object to that so much tbh, at least there were valid plot reasons for it, not just because the scriptwriters couldn't be bovvered coming up with a decent alien planet plotline.... <_<

 

i did.... too much emphisis on the bloody idiot brigadeer, <_<, capt yates et al... the plots DID get tired and they DID over use that gravel pit as an alien planet when they were arsed to get off eather..

 

pertwee started well, but finished poorly... tom baker though had some superb storylines until that k9 thing appeared.