BBC4

 

Tonight

 

8.00 Top Of The Pops: The True Story

8.30 Top Of The Pops

A classic episode from 1968.

9.30 Juke Box Jury

David Jacobs hosts an edition from 1960.

 

Thursday

9.00 Six Five Special

 

Next Week

 

TOTP - Boxing Day 1967

TOTP - Xmas 1978

Enjoyed the retro shows - that 1968 episode's a real classic, I think I knew every single song played - 'Xanadu', 'Don't Stop the Carnival', 'Pictures of Matchstick Men', 'The Mighty Quinn', 'Fire Brigade'...so many.

 

Like Pick of the Pops too.

 

"I don't think we should commercialise Christmas and this song does."

"I didn't like the arrangement...too much echo."

 

...but they loved Pinky and Perky.

missed it... but i saw it in '68! lol... great tracks i agree, esp xanadou (perfect pop song) and fire brigade (superb intro)

I couldn't believe how bad Juke Box Jury was by today's standards. A programme where basically you watch people listening to music! I don't think the BBC had quite got this television concept worked out in their heads yet.

 

I remember those artists on TOTP though. Great stuff.

Enjoyed the retro shows - that 1968 episode's a real classic, I think I knew every single song played - 'Xanadu', 'Don't Stop the Carnival',

 

i watched too last night.

 

Btw does does 'Don't Stop the Carnival' use an interpolation of an old Calypso tune within the jazzy song structure, something like might have been recorded by Lord Kitchener?? that faux-Calypso part reminds me a bit of Young Tiger's I Was There At The Coronation.

 

Did you watch all the pop on trial red button things from 1950 - 1990 last week. looking fwd to the shows next week

Yeah, Don't Stop the Carnival was a somewhat cod-calypso number...which gives it it's catchiness.

Yeah, Don't Stop the Carnival was a somewhat cod-calypso number...which gives it it's catchiness.

 

but wtf was it about?.... lol

No idea at all!

Thursday

9.00 Six Five Special

 

watched that - was trying to work out whether the R&B trio singing Elvis hits would be the original people who did these or whether this black vocal harmony group (no not Boyz ii men :lol: ) where covering the songs of Elvis who was taking stuff from black music culture.

i watched too last night.

 

Btw does does 'Don't Stop the Carnival' use an interpolation of an old Calypso tune within the jazzy song structure, something like might have been recorded by Lord Kitchener?? that faux-Calypso part reminds me a bit of Young Tiger's I Was There At The Coronation.

For anyone too young to remember - Alan Price was an original member of the Animals along with Eric Burdon, John Steele, Hilton Valentine and the late Chas Chandler

For anyone too young to remember - Alan Price was an original member of the Animals along with Eric Burdon, John Steele, Hilton Valentine and the late Chas Chandler

 

Eric Burdon - he was on BBC Four's Soul Britiannia too as one of the talking heads with Paul Weller, Bev Knight, Geno Washington, Kevin Rowland et al and i think he played as part of the Soul Britannia concert that they showed after on the channel.

 

its Pop Britainnia toinight - talking about music managers.

 

btw what about Young Tiger???

It's a pity they're not showing the only other 2 complete TOTP from the 60s still in existance.

They Were:

 

06 June 1968 presented by Jimmy Savile and Davy Jones of the Monkees and featuring:

Cilla Black - Where Is Tomorrow

Dionne Warwick - Do You Know The Way To San Jose (Promo Film)

Don Partridge - Blue Eyes

The Equals - Baby Come Back

Gary Puckett & The Union Gap (Pan's People)

Julie Driscoll - This Wheels's On Fire

Manfred Mann - My Name Is Jack

Rolling Stones - Jumpin' Jack Flash (Promo Film)

 

27 February 1969 presented by Stuart Henry and featuring:

Cilla Black - Surround Yourself With Sorrow

Cliff Richard - Good Times Better Times

Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Pan's People)

Donald Peers - Please Don't Go

Glen Campbell - Wichita Linesman (Promo Film)

The Hollies - Sorry Suzanne

Peter Sarstedt - Where Do You Go To My Lovely

Sandie Shaw - Monsieur Dupont

 

 

 

 

It's a pity they're not showing the only other 2 complete TOTP from the 60s still in existance.

They Were:

 

06 June 1968 presented by Jimmy Savile and Davy Jones of the Monkees and featuring:

Cilla Black - Where Is Tomorrow

Dionne Warwick - Do You Know The Way To San Jose (Promo Film)

Don Partridge - Blue Eyes

The Equals - Baby Come Back

Gary Puckett & The Union Gap (Pan's People)

Julie Driscoll - This Wheels's On Fire

Manfred Mann - My Name Is Jack

Rolling Stones - Jumpin' Jack Flash (Promo Film)

 

27 February 1969 presented by Stuart Henry and featuring:

Cilla Black - Surround Yourself With Sorrow

Cliff Richard - Good Times Better Times

Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Pan's People)

Donald Peers - Please Don't Go

Glen Campbell - Wichita Linesman (Promo Film)

The Hollies - Sorry Suzanne

Peter Sarstedt - Where Do You Go To My Lovely

Sandie Shaw - Monsieur Dupont

 

would be better to cut up the stock and destroy parts so you can have a show that features:

 

 

Dionne Warwick - Do You Know The Way To San Jose (Promo Film)

The Equals - Baby Come Back

Gary Puckett & The Union Gap (Pan's People)

Julie Driscoll - This Wheels's On Fire

Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine (Pan's People)

Glen Campbell - Wichita Linesman (Promo Film)

Peter Sarstedt - Where Do You Go To My Lovely

 

 

and then if any left over

 

Manfred Mann - My Name Is Jack

Rolling Stones - Jumpin' Jack Flash (Promo Film)

 

or then again you could just have Wichita Linesman over and over again for half and hour.

watched that - was trying to work out whether the R&B trio singing Elvis hits would be the original people who did these or whether this black vocal harmony group (no not Boyz ii men :lol: ) where covering the songs of Elvis who was taking stuff from black music culture.

When Elvis started out, black music and white music were totally separate. Music, like the people themselves, was largely segregated especially in the southern states. Black and white only radio stations. All music has it’s origins in something that’s gone before. Sure, as Elvis himself acknowledged during his lifetime, he was influenced by African-American artists as a child, along with many other different artists as well. He helped to bring the two ‘cultures’ together and created his own style, fusing the styles of white country and black rhythm and blues. Here are some quotes about Elvis from black musicians themselves ;)

 

“A lot of people have accused Elvis of stealing the black man’s music, when in fact, almost every black solo entertainer copied his stage mannerisms from Elvis.” (Jackie Wilson)

 

"Elvis was an integrator. Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn't let Black music through. He opened the door for Black music." (Little Richard)

 

“Elvis had an influence on everybody with his musical approach. He broke the ice for all of us.” (Al Green)

 

“I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. There’ll never be another like that soul brother. (James Brown)

 

"Elvis was a giant and influenced everyone in the business." (Issac Hayes)

 

Jimi Hendrix, like many African Americans of his generation, was indeed an Elvis fan. He actually saw an Elvis show in Seattle in 1957 and later included Elvis' version of "Hound Dog" in his live shows.

 

Forget the Elvis images from the late 70s, read about Elvis in the 50s and then you’ll find out what an impact he had on the music world B)

 

 

Forget the Elvis images from the late 70s, read about Elvis in the 50s and then you’ll find out what an impact he had on the music world B)

 

indeed, thr trouble is (thanks to his army of impresonators) elvis is known for the pathetic figure he cut in the 70's.

 

id agree though that elvis in the 50's was a substantial force in music...

indeed, thr trouble is (thanks to his army of impresonators) elvis is known for the pathetic figure he cut in the 70's.

 

id agree though that elvis in the 50's was a substantial force in music...

 

which is also a similar kind of argument for cliff richard that they were doing (but obv from a smaller UK outlook)

 

When Elvis started out, black music and white music were totally separate. Music, like the people themselves, was largely segregated especially in the southern states. Black and white only radio stations. All music has it’s origins in something that’s gone before. Sure, as Elvis himself acknowledged during his lifetime, he was influenced by African-American artists as a child, along with many other different artists as well. He helped to bring the two ‘cultures’ together and created his own style, fusing the styles of white country and black rhythm and blues. Here are some quotes about Elvis from black musicians themselves ;)

 

well yeah, every one knows this and this black/white separate mentality is still a factor [in music genre definitions (but obv not to the extent)] can be seen still today just looking at pop and r&b forums - which is alright if they are suppose to provide a service for a specific demographic but when people cant except that a black artist can ahem 'cross-over' and be considered a pop artist as well when its obv they are

I Love the TOTP from Boxing Day 1967 and 15 Feb 1968. I also have the episode from 05 Jun 1968, I'd love them to show the from 27 Feb 1969. That is the only other show I'm missing from the 60s that survives.

 

There's been some great music on there.

 

That's it with the 60s there was such a wide range of genres that have made it big unlike today when only a few make it.

That's it with the 60s there was such a wide range of genres that have made it big unlike today when only a few make it.

 

absolutely, id rate the punk era too (77-82) as also having a wide range of styles, which is why these times are seen with such affection, summut in there for everyone and VARIETY.