As well as all the pop on trial shows on BBC 4 did anybody else watch their dance season???

 

did anyone watch the The Jitterbug Years 1945 - 1953, about all the popular dances and 'dance' tunes that were around in the day (jitterbug, jives, jazz)

 

was thinking that once you exclude a lot of the crooners of the era, the contempory 'black' music of that era doesnt seem to have dated that quickly in comparison to say popular R&B from just a few years ago.

 

i wonder if this is due to the duribilty and structure of jazz or whether that there was a point in history that popular black music became so pop that it has taken on the notions of disposable pop???

 

 

i think the speed of things has hastend significantly nowdays, with people getting bored of trends far quicker then in the old days. certainly the jitterbug years had very little commercialisation and there was no pressure to find the next 'big' (earner) thing.

 

different time, different era.

i think the speed of things has hastend significantly nowdays, with people getting bored of trends far quicker then in the old days. certainly the jitterbug years had very little commercialisation and there was no pressure to find the next 'big' (earner) thing.

 

i dont know as you've got aall those adult contempory hits (ie grown up white pop music) that are gonna stay around on airplay for years (robbie's angels, snow patrol's car) - but listen to a collection of r&b track from just a few years ago and the rate that has been overtaken by whatever seems so rapid.

 

so it seems that in some cases pop has become less disposable and the notion of disposable pop music is not as valid as it seemed once to be (esp when thinking about vintage cheese type stuff as well)

i dont know as you've got aall those adult contempory hits (ie grown up white pop music) that are gonna stay around on airplay for years (robbie's angels, snow patrol's car) - but listen to a collection of r&b track from just a few years ago and the rate that has been overtaken by whatever seems so rapid.

 

so it seems that in some cases pop has become less disposable and the notion of disposable pop music is not as valid as it seemed once to be (esp when thinking about vintage cheese type stuff as well)

 

dunno.... standards have always stuck out, and its quite odd the way some relatively minor hits from MY past are well known standards today that all kids recognise.. (ace of spades for eg... #16 or summut in '80).

 

im not sure you can compare todays r n b with jitterbug, as r n b isnt really primarily dance...

dunno.... standards have always stuck out, and its quite odd the way some relatively minor hits from MY past are well known standards today that all kids recognise.. (ace of spades for eg... #16 or summut in '80).

 

im not sure you can compare todays r n b with jitterbug, as r n b isnt really primarily dance...

 

but looking in an 2007 limited view R&B and dance music styles do look different with r&b being reguarded as a black music style and dance a white/european music style but go back and (as with UKG/bassline/grime/2step etc ) the two are interlinked esp if you go back to various forms of disco/club music(+ big gay hi-nrg stuff) that were happening at the warehouse/Paradise Garage and played by people such as larry levant and created larry heard/frankie knuckles/Darreck May/Kevin Saunderson/Marshall Jefferson etc - some has its roots in Kraftwerk but most in soul and funk ( - so much that it would interst Paul Weller :lol: )

 

and remember as Jazzi B (from Soul II Soul - album club claasics vol one) said in Soul Britainia about NY hip hop being known to them as electro in those early 1980s - obv both are imporatant to each other than separate as both came from the same place.