ok, scooter ARE above cascada!

 

Not saying much though is it mate...?

 

A cat farting into a microphone with a disco beat laid on top is probably above Cascada.... :P :lol:

Oh yeah, little known fact this, but the main riff from 'What Time is Love?' was nicked from a song on Jesus Christ Superstar by Andrew Lloyd Webber - proving the KLF weren't afraid to touch anything!

In fact KLF (Kopyright Liberation Front) are well known for their attitude regarding samples/music...

 

 

In fact KLF (Kopyright Liberation Front) are well known for their attitude regarding samples/music...

 

......... which is intelligently displayed on 'doctorin the tardis'...lol..

I think you'll find it's the Beatmasters who're doing the influencing here. They remixed all the KLF and Shamen singles for chart consumption, the original versions being somewhat more raw and inaccessible. Both the KLF and Shamen came from indie rock stock and moved into the dance arena around the end of the 80's.

 

yeah think that has been mentioned to with that and also it important in the history of sampling and using hip hop culture - and the KLF and Shamen are something also to do with (important total film composerman!!!) Clint Mansell and pop will eat itself, and people like that.

 

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/clint_mansell.jpg

 

however think we'll save the beatmasters for a betty boo vs Girls Aloud thread :lol: :lol:

 

http://www.fizzmusic.com/images/artists/143.jpg

 

Almost right...ALL of Fatboy Slim's work involves nicking off little known tracks!

 

i think its a bit more creative than just nicking part of other peoples tracks..its not just like following the book from a to z...or press the 'dancemusik' button on your intel inside powered computer because you can.

 

just goes to show that my own personal snobbery gets in the way AGAIN of missing something... if i knew about the klf connection with scooter then maybe id have given them more credence. they just sounded like another europop outfit.

 

well think the greatness of the klf i down to some kinda indie snobbery - if i listen to their stadium house records - its just sounds as bad as N-Trance - it could be N-trace for all i care - tho all the scams and art-y-stuff that developed around the act - even if it was tru or a myth - thats where i guess the credibility came from - not actually from their records - thats why they were important (like going to see ABBA)

 

http://caughtinthemiddleman.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/abba001.jpg

 

and i think Paul Morley wrote in OMM aligning Wham! and the Shamen as two dodgy acts people had to live thru to get to the pop music of today - so for that act not love all round.

 

ok, scooter ARE above cascada!

 

well Cascada - just the new Nicki French obv :lol: :lol:

 

 

Not saying much though is it mate...?

 

A cat farting into a microphone with a disco beat laid on top is probably above Cascada.... :P :lol:

 

if a cat farting into a microphone with a disco beat laid on top got maximum airplay from the hits would it be #1 next week?? perhaps???

Scooter are a bunch of idiotic German's who cover completely different songs in their own 'style'

 

You've not heard much of their music then!

Not much of their music has been released here. But i've been a fan since their first single Hyper Hyper in 1994.

They've only covered 4 songs.

 

What about all (what i think is rubbish) Hip-Hop and R&B that comes from USA.

 

Everybody to their own tastes.

 

Nah, I've heard loads of Scooter - with the exception of the 'Move Your Ass EP' back in 1994 (?) they've really only ever had hits with covers - Raving I'm Raving, The Secret Behind the Cow, The Logical Song, Rebel Yell - there, that's four, are there any more? From a UK standpoint that's all they really are to us.

 

Yes, the KLF put a lot of faith in the music industry myth - but it means they're legend has lived on a lot longer than their music would otherwise. I don't think you can put What Time is Love? or 3 AM Eternal in the same brackets as N-Trance - I guess 'Last Train' sounds a little tinny now and 'Justified and Ancient' is and was a silly, overblown yet excellent pop record - just as they intended...you aren't going to waste a rare Tammy Wynette vocal now are you?

 

Nice mention of Clint Mansell and the Poppies - both PWEI and the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (former moniker of the KLF pre-Timelords) began sampling other records around early 1987 and I'm not sure who'd be credited with doing so first.

 

There must also be some mention of the gloriously hard 'It's Grim Up North' here too - surely the hardest dance record to reach the top 10 until Underworld's 'Born Slippy'? Or would anyone contend that N-Trance's 'Set You Free' was harder?

 

:blink:

 

 

scooter better then the shamen?... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Well, it would be quite boring if everyone would share same opinions. Yes, I have always liked Scooter, ever since Hyper Hyper and I have never felt that I have to justify myself for doing so (it seems that loads of people who like acts like Scooter, Cascada, Basshunter in near future need to justify themselves or play themselves down with statements such as " I do like other music and oh gosh have no idea why I like Cascada type music but I do have good taste in music trust me and don't judge me because of Cascada/Scooter). I think Scooter is better than The KLF and The Shamen, so what?

 

Nah, I've heard loads of Scooter - with the exception of the 'Move Your Ass EP' back in 1994 (?) they've really only ever had hits with covers - Raving I'm Raving, The Secret Behind the Cow, The Logical Song, Rebel Yell - there, that's four, are there any more? From a UK standpoint that's all they really are to us.

 

From UK standpoint I would add also then Nessaja, Back In The Uk, Fire!, Posse, Weekend, Maria (I Like It Loud), and The Weekend. Even thou THREE (where did you pull Behind The Cow as relevant for UK?) of Scooter's 12 UK charting singles have been covers that really isn't that much. And then if you go beyond UK point of view, they have tons of good tracks that aren't covers and I think it is a bit silly to downgrade some as cover act based on not their whole back catalogue but just songs that charted in some certain state, a bit the same as saying in the US The KLF is nothing more than 3 Am and Justified & Ancient and since J&A is quite cheese therefore KLF is 50% cheesy act.

Edited January 23, 200817 yr by JackJones

Well, it would be quite boring if everyone would share same opinions. Yes, I have always liked Scooter, ever since Hyper Hyper and I have never felt that I have to justify myself for doing so (it seems that loads of people who like acts like Scooter, Cascada, Basshunter in near future need to justify themselves or play themselves down with statements such as " I do like other music and oh gosh have no idea why I like Cascada type music but I do have good taste in music trust me and don't judge me because of Cascada/Scooter). I think Scooter is better than The KLF and The Shamen, so what?

 

well fair enough, from a personal point of view it would be wrong to knock someones taste. the poll was about taste and not about musical innovation.

It's still 25% of their hits - that's about the same rate as Westlife and Steps.

 

;)

Nice mention of Clint Mansell and the Poppies - both PWEI and the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (former moniker of the KLF pre-Timelords) began sampling other records around early 1987 and I'm not sure who'd be credited with doing so first.

 

There must also be some mention of the gloriously hard 'It's Grim Up North' here too - surely the hardest dance record to reach the top 10 until Underworld's 'Born Slippy'?

 

Dont know who would be first - dont know where my current Total Film has gone - let alone the other mag that had article that mentioned all that stuff.

 

tho talking bout Underworld - they did have a squiggle years b4 Prince didnt they???

 

http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/u/underworld/underneath-the-radar/underneath-the-radar.jpg

 

btw did anyone end up with this album? is it awful cheesy 80s pop? looks like a bad sigue sputnik-inxs cross rip-off :lol:

 

the aussie cover by Big Brother's Danielle is below. probs one to file alongside vandalism, Joel Turner / The Modern Day Poets, bodyrockers and Spiderbait's Black Betty :lol: in Aussie music to avoid (and Novaspace's beds are burning can be shuvved in there as well for the hell of it too :lol: )

 

 

 

Novaspace's beds are burning :puke2: :puke2: - is Scooter growing on you now????

 

You've not heard much of their music then!

Not much of their music has been released here. But i've been a fan since their first single Hyper Hyper in 1994.

They've only covered 4 songs.

 

and actually their recording of Depeche Mode's Stripped is quite a good faithful reading - not what you would expect from them - but then again not like this

 

http://www.akkords.ru/r/rammstein/disk_214.jpg