Posted January 20, 200817 yr New figures show a 50 per cent rise in the number of people requiring medical treatment after using cannabis since the Government downgraded the drug from Class B to Class C in January 2004. The figures compiled by health authorities will increase the pressure on Gordon Brown to reverse the classification regardless of the conclusions of a review into the drug due in March. The Prime Minister announced in July his intention to overturn the decision of the former Home Secretary, David Blunkett, to downgrade cannabis to class C and ordered a review by the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. How dangerous do you think cannabis is? Is it more hazardous than alcohol? What are your experiences of the two substances? Would you welcome a tougher stance on drugs? Will a reclassification of cannabis do anything to reduce its use? Is it time to consider legalising this - and other drugs? Source: Sunday Telegraph
January 21, 200817 yr I used cannabis quite regularly for 2 decades till I gave up and would say I am in good health but I can only speak from personal experience
January 21, 200817 yr Cannabis effects your memory and can result in you suffering from memory loss...which can turn into long-term memory loss if used for a long period of time. I have smoked it, and I did with my friends ALOT from the beginning of 2006 all the way to last November. I have been clean for about 2 months now, along with quitting cigarettes at the end of December. And whoever said that pot is not addictive is full of $h!t, because I was a b**ch for about a month after quitting, along with sleeping alot more then usual. Edited January 21, 200817 yr by Tyler
January 21, 200817 yr i think todays canabis is much stronger then the weed of the hippy days in the 60's 70's. its stronger and being used more frequently. like most things, moderation, it can be fun... but over do it, like alcohol, and it becomes detrimental to you. so yes, it is harmful when taken in higher doses. most of the grubby assholes on jeremy kyle are canabis smokers...
January 21, 200817 yr i think todays canabis is much stronger then the weed of the hippy days in the 60's 70's. its stronger and being used more frequently. like most things, moderation, it can be fun... but over do it, like alcohol, and it becomes detrimental to you. Absolutely.. Only a total arse would sit around ALL DAY, EVERY DAY continually tokeing away.. You do that, then frankly you deserve what's coming to you... At the end of the day, I believe in legalising cannabis, I reckon it's the only way to effectively control it, and it probably would take the whole "glamourous" edge off of it as well... When something becomes legal, somehow it seems a lot less fun or rebellious to do it... :lol: Look at Holland, where it is legal, the only problem users are the tourists (esp. Brits and Americans) who binge toke and make total idiots of themselves, the Dutch themselves just shrug their shoulders and say "whatever" about it...
January 21, 200817 yr Absolutely.. Only a total arse would sit around ALL DAY, EVERY DAY continually tokeing away.. You do that, then frankly you deserve what's coming to you... At the end of the day, I believe in legalising cannabis, I reckon it's the only way to effectively control it, and it probably would take the whole "glamourous" edge off of it as well... When something becomes legal, somehow it seems a lot less fun or rebellious to do it... :lol: Look at Holland, where it is legal, the only problem users are the tourists (esp. Brits and Americans) who binge toke and make total idiots of themselves, the Dutch themselves just shrug their shoulders and say "whatever" about it... ...... but im not sure legalising it would help the situation. you cant compare uk chavs to the dutch who time and time again show that whilst the europeans can self regulate themselves (drink and sex) to a degree, we cant!
January 21, 200817 yr How dangerous is cannabis? Far, far less dangerous, disruptive, damaging and life and soul destroying than alcohol. End of discussion.
January 22, 200817 yr How dangerous is cannabis? Far, far less dangerous, disruptive, damaging and life and soul destroying than alcohol. End of discussion. only when taken to access m8..... its a fact that a little alcohol daily is beneficial to health, can that be said for cannabis? but cannabis is i believe far far less dangerous, disruptive, damaging then tobacco! :P
January 22, 200817 yr ...... but im not sure legalising it would help the situation. you cant compare uk chavs to the dutch who time and time again show that whilst the europeans can self regulate themselves (drink and sex) to a degree, we cant! This country is so repressed though mate, that's the whole problem.. This is the whole reason why we go a bit nuts.... We're not treated like adults by our Govt, and as for our Media, sheeesh, dont get me started.. I dont necessarily believe that continental europeans are our intellectual superiors, but it sure does seem like they have less repressed, uptight attitudes than we do..
January 22, 200817 yr How dangerous is cannabis? Far, far less dangerous, disruptive, damaging and life and soul destroying than alcohol. End of discussion. Agreed Russ... When I walk down the streets, I dont worry about "binge tokers" wanting to assault me, I'm a LOT more concerned about binge drinkers.... The vast majority of violent assaults are fuelled by alcohol, not by cannabis, therefore I believe that alcohol is far more detrimental to society as a whole than cannabis ever could be....
January 22, 200817 yr only when taken to access m8..... its a fact that a little alcohol daily is beneficial to health, can that be said for cannabis? Having a joint (as in ONE..) after a stressful day at work certainly is beneficial, it de-stresses you, relaxes you... It's certainly beneficial to your emotional state that's for sure.... I cant see one joint a day being all that harmful to physical health either (as long as it's a pure grass joint and not mixed with tobacco obviously... :lol: )
January 22, 200817 yr well it seems like its the lack of moderation here that causes the problems more then the substances themselves. so the question is... if cannabis was legalised would more people abuse it by taking it to access which would cause more harm to themselves and society then what they do illegaly now?
January 22, 200817 yr if cannabis was legalised would more people abuse it by taking it to access which would cause more harm to themselves and society then what they do illegaly now? Well, like I said in my first post on this subject, I feel that a lot of the attraction to cannabis is the fact that it's illegal, and that it's seen as "rebellious".... I also think that it would be certainly more prudent to take it out of the hands of illegal dealers as well for obvious reasons...
January 22, 200817 yr well maybe, we will never know until it IS legalised i guess, anything else is conjecture.
January 22, 200817 yr A cople of years ago I was walking down some street and this guy walked past me and I could tell he had smoked Cannabis/Weed whatever he had, but he just walked past and stared at me in the eye. However, a year before that I was with some mates and we went past a pub and this other guy was out of his head and he threw himself towards me and missed, then swung around and tried to hit my mate. What's more dangerous? Drinking for sure..
January 22, 200817 yr What's more dangerous? Drinking for sure.. the only way to certain of that would be for equal ammounts of alcohol and weed to be consumed by thge same number of people... then and only then would you get any true result! drinkings more prevailent, its cheaper and more potent, therefore of course drink causes more trouble.
January 22, 200817 yr I think it is very dangerous. It does have long term effects in the end, Ive met one guy that now hears voices in his head. I dont think it should be legal either, its a good point about control, but I think if we are realistic if it is legal people will smoke more of it. It will become a common thing eventually like smoking in general. I believe that smoking cannabis does lead onto taking harder substances
January 22, 200817 yr I believe that smoking cannabis does lead onto taking harder substances The evidence for that is purely circumstantial... Common sense dictates that if you leave the supply of a 'softer' drug in the hands of dealers who also deal in harder, more profitable drugs, they may be able to sway people into trying the harder stuff. I say, let's take it out of their hands altogether... And anyway, you assume that anyone actually starts off on their "recreational drug" lifestyle by taking Cannabis... Dont you realise that cigarettes and alcohol are also recreational drugs...? What was your first experience of recreational drug use....? If you say anything other than alcohol or tobacco, I will be incredibly surprised.... So, by your logic, if cannabis leads to "harder" drugs, then alcohol or tobacco leads to Cannabis, n'est pas.... So, ban 'em all then, eh...? Going by your logic we should stop the cycle before it begins..
January 22, 200817 yr the only way to certain of that would be for equal ammounts of alcohol and weed to be consumed by thge same number of people... That would be impossible and totally impractical to quantify, you cant really do that, they're completely different substances with completely different effects... You'd might as well compare magic mushrooms to crystal meth....
January 22, 200817 yr A cople of years ago I was walking down some street and this guy walked past me and I could tell he had smoked Cannabis/Weed whatever he had, but he just walked past and stared at me in the eye. However, a year before that I was with some mates and we went past a pub and this other guy was out of his head and he threw himself towards me and missed, then swung around and tried to hit my mate. What's more dangerous? Drinking for sure.. Exactly... Alcohol heightens aggression, it's also a depressant... Weed works on a completely different level. The worst thing you can say about weed is the short-term memory loss (which happens with alcohol as well. Hello?? Blackouts anyone???) and that it will exacerbate pre-existing mental disorders (not actually create them as some anti-cannabis propagandists would have you believe)... Well, if you're stupid enough to take ANY mind-altering substance when you have a mental disorder, dont expect any sympathy from me... Alcohol has far more detrimental effects to society as a WHOLE than Weed does, this is just a fact.. If you dont believe me, take a trip to any casualty ward on any given Saturday night to see all the binge-drinking casualties, you wont see anything like as many 'tokers' in a casualty ward....
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