Posted February 17, 200817 yr More than 2.2 million British children - one in five of all youngsters - now live in a household dependent on state benefits, the Government has been forced to admit. Research commissioned by the Government reveals that such children are far more likely to become benefit-dependent adults themselves, prompting fears that a generation of unemployable youngsters has been created. In some areas of Manchester, Liverpool, London and Glasgow, almost half of children are growing up in households entirely funded by benefits. What can be done to combat the benefits culture? How can we instil a work ethic in our children? How can children who live in benefit-funded households be encouraged to aim higher? Source : Sunday Telegraph
February 17, 200817 yr I think it is a bit patronising tbh Many of the countries richest men were bought up on council estates such as Bernie Ecclestone, Alan Sugar, Philip Green and so on and they have become super rich and anyways being bought up in tough conditions can actually inspire working class people to achieve so that they do not have to put their kids through what they went through Of course many people on council estates are lost causes along with their feral offspring but I dont think being bought up on a council estate should be considered a deterrent to hard work
February 18, 200817 yr "what can be done to combat the benefits culture"?.... STOP PAYING BENEFITS. its a system that cannot be sustained, more and more chavs and immigrants holding out their hands for OUR money.... id cut benefit payments at a stroke, many on benefits smoke, drink, take drugs... thats MY money they are living on...
February 18, 200817 yr "what can be done to combat the benefits culture"?.... STOP PAYING BENEFITS. its a system that cannot be sustained, more and more chavs and immigrants holding out their hands for OUR money.... id cut benefit payments at a stroke, many on benefits smoke, drink, take drugs... thats MY money they are living on... That would solve one problem but cause a new one, massively increased crime particularly street robberies and shop lifting as people would be stealing or mugging to eat as much as any other reason as well as us paying a lot more for food and so on to counter the effects of shoplifting There are plenty of jobs around so stronger steps to ensure people are looking for work is the way forward and getting these people into jobs, there is no reason why any able bodied person in this country should be without work, simply stopping benefits with no work to go to would lead to lots of crime
February 18, 200817 yr That would solve one problem but cause a new one, massively increased crime particularly street robberies and shop lifting as people would be stealing or mugging to eat as much as any other reason as well as us paying a lot more for food and so on to counter the effects of shoplifting There are plenty of jobs around so stronger steps to ensure people are looking for work is the way forward and getting these people into jobs, there is no reason why any able bodied person in this country should be without work, simply stopping benefits with no work to go to would lead to lots of crime but thats like being held to ransome.... pay benefits or you pay more for food/crime etc... build bigger prisons then, because it simply aint on that scum CHOOSE to live like that (and im talking about bone idle bstrds, NOT the legitimate claimants)
February 18, 200817 yr surely the best way to instil a work ethic in today's kids is... make them WORK. If they don't fancy staying on in school - I see no problem whatsoever in compulsory work for early school-leavers - not only would it halve the amount of kids leaving school early, it'd keep them from hanging round the streets. I wouldn't want them merely going to these jobs, whatever they may be, to cut unemployment figures - but to learn a trade, preferably, be it carpentry, plumbing, hairdressing - whatever. But the idea should be - you don't get a penny in benefits unless you take part in these schemes. Same for these girls who think having a baby is a career alternative - baby-minders should be employed and the girl should absolutely still be made to undergo this training. I'm sick of seeing teen girls pushing prams and living pretty handsomely on the benefits having a kid gets them.
February 19, 200817 yr surely the best way to instil a work ethic in today's kids is... make them WORK. If they don't fancy staying on in school - I see no problem whatsoever in compulsory work for early school-leavers - not only would it halve the amount of kids leaving school early, it'd keep them from hanging round the streets. I wouldn't want them merely going to these jobs, whatever they may be, to cut unemployment figures - but to learn a trade, preferably, be it carpentry, plumbing, hairdressing - whatever. But the idea should be - you don't get a penny in benefits unless you take part in these schemes. Same for these girls who think having a baby is a career alternative - baby-minders should be employed and the girl should absolutely still be made to undergo this training. I'm sick of seeing teen girls pushing prams and living pretty handsomely on the benefits having a kid gets them. I completely agree :o I don't think it has anything to do with council estates anymore, more to do with a culture of thinking everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living just for the mere fact of existing. and I don't mean a roof over your head - I mean expecting PS3s, mobile phones, designer chav clothes. If you are living on benifits I don't think you should expect to be able to afford such things.
February 19, 200817 yr I completely agree :o I don't think it has anything to do with council estates anymore, more to do with a culture of thinking everyone has a "right" to a certain standard of living just for the mere fact of existing. and I don't mean a roof over your head - I mean expecting PS3s, mobile phones, designer chav clothes. If you are living on benifits I don't think you should expect to be able to afford such things. i agree, 30 years ago you knew that the 'rough kids' came off the council estates... today its anyone from any background... some of the worst here are young white kids off 'posh' estates trying to be black! <_<
February 19, 200817 yr I wouldn't want them merely going to these jobs, whatever they may be, to cut unemployment figures - but to learn a trade, preferably, be it carpentry, plumbing, hairdressing - whatever. But the idea should be - you don't get a penny in benefits unless you take part in these schemes. I agree with that, but only if it was a genuine Apprenticeship scheme and not some bullsh!t Govt attempt to fudge the unemployment figures by pushing kids onto rubbish like YTS such as the Tories did in the 80s, which went pretty much nowhere and just led to lots of employers getting cheap "slave labour" for a couple of years.... I also don't go along with paying 16-21 year olds a lower level of minimum wage either, I find that to be utterly unnacceptable, why should a 16-21 year old working in Tesco or ASDA be paid less for doing the same fukkin' job as someone older...? What kind of incentive is that really to go out and work....? <_< I think more parents should persuade their kids to take up jobs such as paper rounds, Saturday jobs, etc....
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