March 4, 200817 yr 70's, 60's, 80's in that order for me with 90's and 00's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the field 70's easily for me as that is when my favourite genre classic rock first started making a big impact Probably 10% at most of my music collection is from 1990 onwards Anyone that says the 00's must be on a wind up :unsure: :lol: but the question was 'was the 60's the best decade for pop'.... not 'what was your favourite decade for pop'... and then you go on about 'clasic rock'..lol..
March 4, 200817 yr true... there was some awful stuff about, especially early 60's, pre-beatles.. and late 60's when business got control of it. for eg, manfred mann 'sold out' to commercialism, mm himself loved jazz and wanted like many other 60's acts to experiment and play 'cool' music. however they have to live and sold out , they played stuff they HATED , ragamuffin man etc... This has nothing to do with music but you mentioning Manfred Mann brought to mind something I heard on (Radio 4 I think) the other day. They were talking to Paul Jones - he was in the original stage play of Rising Damp, along with Leonard Rossiter, Frances De La Tour and Don Warrington. The play bombed big time! When they considered making the TV series - Jones was offered the part that eventually went to Richard Beckinsale. Jones refused assuming the TV series would be as much of a failure as the play! Well boy did he make a mistake, with Rising Damp being, quite rightly, respected for being one of the best TV comedies of the 1970's. I'm quite certain that Jones made other similar disastrous career decisions! I must investigate! As I say - totally off-topic but its your fault for mentioning Manfred Mann! :lol: :lol: Norma
March 4, 200817 yr Off topic again, I always knew Paul Jones from his stint as host of kids quiz Beat the Teacher. ...and come on, '5-4-3-2-1' is a great song and inspired a classic advert - now wasn't that worth selling out for? 70's is probably my favourite - there's punk / post punk obviously - the rise of synth music, the only good disco records and early on you had some decent glam from Bolan, Bowie and co. There was a huge amount of $h!t too mind, but which decade didn't have that?
March 4, 200817 yr no probs with a thread evolving as the original question is possibly been answered. i dont think paul jones would be that bothered about missing out on rising damp, his christian beliefs probably told him that god wanted him for summut else.... fair play.. manfred mann sold out under mike d'arbo, joneses replacement when he left in 66... before then id rate mm as one of our top groups, after that they did good pop... but it was sell out material. as a footnote.... did you know that jack bruce played bass on 'pretty flamingo'?...
March 4, 200817 yr no probs with a thread evolving as the original question is possibly been answered. i dont think paul jones would be that bothered about missing out on rising damp, his christian beliefs probably told him that god wanted him for summut else.... fair play.. manfred mann sold out under mike d'arbo, joneses replacement when he left in 66... before then id rate mm as one of our top groups, after that they did good pop... but it was sell out material. as a footnote.... did you know that jack bruce played bass on 'pretty flamingo'?... He was with them for a year wasn't he before Klaus Voorman joined. I must admit I got into Manfred Mann later (in the 70's - the Earthband - Joybringer is one of my favourite songs). And I love Voorman's relationship with the Beatles and his cover for the Revolver album (I don't care what people say about Sgt Pepper and the White Album - for me - Revolver is the biz!) I only really listened to a lot of 60's stuff after hearing bands in the 70's. My favourite band from the 70's was ELO - and once I started collecting their stuff - I worked backwards to the Move and the Idle Race (bet you've never heard of them!) I love most of the Move's stuff and I was intrigued by the ding-dong battle (or rather the battle for leadership) between Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood at the start of ELO. I think Roy Wood initially had a head start after their fall-out, with Wizzard - but Jeff Lynne had the longevity with ELO. Reminiscing ..... ahhhh! Norma Edited March 4, 200817 yr by Norma_Snockers
March 5, 200817 yr He was with them for a year wasn't he before Klaus Voorman joined. I must admit I got into Manfred Mann later (in the 70's - the Earthband - Joybringer is one of my favourite songs). And I love Voorman's relationship with the Beatles and his cover for the Revolver album (I don't care what people say about Sgt Pepper and the White Album - for me - Revolver is the biz!) I only really listened to a lot of 60's stuff after hearing bands in the 70's. My favourite band from the 70's was ELO - and once I started collecting their stuff - I worked backwards to the Move and the Idle Race (bet you've never heard of them!) I love most of the Move's stuff and I was intrigued by the ding-dong battle (or rather the battle for leadership) between Jeff Lynne and Roy Wood at the start of ELO. I think Roy Wood initially had a head start after their fall-out, with Wizzard - but Jeff Lynne had the longevity with ELO. Reminiscing ..... ahhhh! Norma 'never heard of the idle race?...:lol: i own 'the skeleton and the roundabout' on vinyl :P i was different, in the 60's pop muic was teen/older driven but a a child i liked pop music whilst most of my contemporaries were playing footy. so i cut my music teeth at a young age with the greats of the 60's. i didnt like the way pop dumbed down by the late 60's and couldnt stand glam in the 70's! thats when most of my m8s were getting into music. i did like wizzard, because of woody, i liked early elo, i have their first 2 albums... but i prefer the move. i spent most of the early 70's collecting 60's records. who won the battle?... maybe initially elo, making big bucks, but who is still known today?... that bloody crimbo record is known by all... id suggest its a draw.
March 5, 200817 yr 'never heard of the idle race?...:lol: i own 'the skeleton and the roundabout' on vinyl :P who won the battle?... maybe initially elo, making big bucks, but who is still known today?... that bloody crimbo record is known by all... id suggest its a draw. I've got the Birthday Party album with Skeleton & The Roundabout! On vinyl of course! Although Roy Wood's 'I Wish It Could Be Christmas ....' is probably one of the best known songs ... If you try and think of any other songs of his/Wizzard's - even people of our advanced years would be hard pushed name two - Angel Fingers & See My Baby Jive. With Jeff Lynne and ELO on the other hand - I'm sure we could come up with at least 25 songs! I know I could come up with about 50 off the top of my head. Norma Edited March 5, 200817 yr by Norma_Snockers
March 5, 200817 yr Make that 1976 to 1986 and you've got a deal! What have you got against 1975 then? :lol: :lol: :lol: And what makes 1986 such a standout? That second questions is a serious one ... it is a very vague time in my memory! :lol: Norma
March 6, 200817 yr Certainly not IMO. But for me the best pretty much equals to some decade that I have at least partly been listening music already and therefore have "lived the music". I do like some of the 60s songs, a few even a lot but that's it. For me the best times for pop were late 80s and late 90s, maybe even the 00s. Early 90s was a bit boring IMO for pop.
March 6, 200817 yr What have you got against 1975 then? :lol: :lol: :lol: And what makes 1986 such a standout? That second questions is a serious one ... it is a very vague time in my memory! :lol: Norma 75 was dire.... theres only about 'make me smile(come up and see me)' that is worth listening to, the ONLY classic from that year IMHO. 86 was good actually, 'borderline' 'lifes what you make it', 'edge of heaven', 'radio africa', 'imagination', 'open your heart', ... plenty of decent tracks. however whats happening on this thread is that people are supporting their favourite era in music, that doesnt make it the 'best' for pop! i think its generally acknowleged that 'the best' times for music are when new styles/fashions take off. certainly sales are higher when more creative music is popular plus its remembered more as its influence is timeless. this of course points towards the beat/pop explosion of the mid 60's when pop music as we know it was 'created'. successive ressurections of this 'mod' sound have always proved popular... indeed punk brought it right back into fashion and in many ways i believe finished off what the 60's started. punk/new wave/ ska/ new romantics/ indie, 76-83 id rate as hugely successful for creativity (the core of the punk ethos was 'do it youself'), so was the 'punk era' 'better' then the mid 60's?... hard to quantify tbh. the punk era was more advanced, lasted longer, an embraced a wider range of styles then the burgeoning music scene in the mid 60's did. but which was 'better'... the ORIGINAL creative sounds or the more advanced, first wave revival (punk)? of course 'britpop' and nowdays whats refered to as 'indie' (but in fact its all 'mod') the latest incarnations of the 60's sounds are popular as ever.... GOOD! but with each new wave of 60's music there are some classics. all you have to do is ignore where the music derived from ...lol.. note the deliberate omission of 'disposable' 'confetti' pop... glam, s.a.w. chapman/chinn etc... whilst it has its place, it does nothing, it brings nothing, to the world of music, creativity is the key.
March 7, 200817 yr Was the 60s the best decade for pop music? It was the best for those that enjoyed that decade... To me 90s is the best decade of music. It was the decade of experimentation (and of electronic music).
March 7, 200817 yr The 00's are the best era. No way - it's just filled with rubbish RNB/Hip Hop and not forgetting c**p like Mc$h!te & Pestlife
March 7, 200817 yr 75 was dire.... theres only about 'make me smile(come up and see me)' that is worth listening to, the ONLY classic from that year IMHO. note the deliberate omission of 'disposable' 'confetti' pop... glam, s.a.w. chapman/chinn etc... whilst it has its place, it does nothing, it brings nothing, to the world of music, creativity is the key. I remember listening to Make Me Smile while I was dissecting a fish for my biology CSE! I think you have to be careful where you mention the words 'disposable' and 'glam' in the same sentence - when Mark Bolan, Dave Bowie, Elton John, Slade (Noddy Holder had one of the best rock voices ever) and Sweet (yes - I include them - they did some good stuff) came to the fore because of 'glam'. Norma
March 7, 200817 yr I remember listening to Make Me Smile while I was dissecting a fish for my biology CSE! I think you have to be careful where you mention the words 'disposable' and 'glam' in the same sentence - when Mark Bolan, Dave Bowie, Elton John, Slade (Noddy Holder had one of the best rock voices ever) and Sweet (yes - I include them - they did some good stuff) came to the fore because of 'glam'. Norma maybe, but most 'glam' tracks even by those artists were.... well... tbh its more the fashion i detested then the actual music.... im unlikely to be accomodating towards glam, i have a problem with it and dont consider it as a whole anything other then disposeable, especially after the 60's... beatles, stones, kinks, small faces, yardbirds, animals, who... i cant equate 60's with glam.. besides all those glam stars were 60's FAILURES. but i dont mind slade, nor sweet...but strictly second division to my 60's heroes.
March 7, 200817 yr maybe, but most 'glam' tracks even by those artists were.... well... tbh its more the fashion i detested then the actual music.... im unlikely to be accomodating towards glam, i have a problem with it and dont consider it as a whole anything other then disposeable, especially after the 60's... beatles, stones, kinks, small faces, yardbirds, animals, who... i cant equate 60's with glam.. besides all those glam stars were 60's FAILURES. but i dont mind slade, nor sweet...but strictly second division to my 60's heroes. I'm shocked!!!!!!! I don't know how you or anyone could possibly define David Bowie & Elton John as failures. Personally both of their back catalogues outshines The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Yardbirds, The Animals & The Who (although Elton would have a struggle with Pete Townsend's combo). FFS, in 2000 David Bowie was voted the most influential British pop icon of 20th Century by his peers and music critics beating John Lennon & Paul McCartney into 2nd & 3rd place respectively. Whilst Marc Bolan (T-Rex) & Slade made some great unpretentious "pop" standards (Get It On; Cum On Feel The Noize; Ride A White Swan; Coz I Luv U; Children Of The Revolution; Far Far Away; 20th Century Boy; How Does It Feel, etc) that have lasted & will last for decades to come unlike Busted & Mcfly.
March 8, 200817 yr I'm shocked!!!!!!! I don't know how you or anyone could possibly define David Bowie & Elton John as failures. Personally both of their back catalogues outshines The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Yardbirds, The Animals & The Who (although Elton would have a struggle with Pete Townsend's combo). FFS, in 2000 David Bowie was voted the most influential British pop icon of 20th Century by his peers and music critics beating John Lennon & Paul McCartney into 2nd & 3rd place respectively. Whilst Marc Bolan (T-Rex) & Slade made some great unpretentious "pop" standards (Get It On; Cum On Feel The Noize; Ride A White Swan; Coz I Luv U; Children Of The Revolution; Far Far Away; 20th Century Boy; How Does It Feel, etc) that have lasted & will last for decades to come unlike Busted & Mcfly. if you READ my post properly m8, i stated correctly '60's failures', ie they FAILED to make the big time in the 60's, not 'failures per - se'... nearly ALL glam acts in the early 70's were failed 60's stars. im not supporting busted or mcfly, weve done that one and it has no comparison with these glam acts.... but i prefered busteds fashion sense! :P
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