Posted March 29, 200817 yr sod it...lol. ill throw this in now. pretty hard to differentiate between punk and 'new wave' as theres no clear boundary...however... ill try! 1 sex pistols - pretty vacant . to me this (and not god save the queen) is the best single the pistols ever did and the more anthemic track, however in the jubilee year i guess im alone! 2 x-ray spex - oh bondage up yours thought poly styrene was the queen of punk (as siouxsie accidentally created 'goth'), this track is excellant. 3 stranglers - something better change ok maybe not true punk but they used the movement to gain popularity with this super track 4 public image ltd - public image johnny at his best imho, love the baseline, guitar riff, a classic. 5 angelic upstarts - im an upstart a great track from '79. 6 sex pistols - no fun had to include this as i reckon its my fav punk track ever. off 'never mind the bollocks' it captures the angst and frustration many young disaffected youths felt in the mid 70's. 7 vibrators - london girls not much i can say, except excellant punk track! 8 damned - love song i reckon their best track, raw energy plus melody... 9 public image - the flowers of romance great track, johnny snareling ... 10 adverts - gary gilmores eyes pop punk really, but a goodun. 11 x-ray spex - the day the world turned dayglow poly again, imho very underrated. 12 ruts - babylons burning good track. i deliberately left out acts like the jam, skids, buzzcocks as they will feature in my 'new wave' album.
March 29, 200817 yr Some great choices there Rob, 1 sex pistols - pretty vacant ...I would agree my favourite Pistols record too 2 x-ray spex - was never really a fan of theirs 3 stranglers - something better change ok maybe not true punk but they used the movement to gain popularity with this super track.............totally agree :dance: 4 public image ltd - public image .........excellant track 5 angelic upstarts - im an upstart a great track from '79. 8 damned - love song............... heard this quite recently and still sounds good... who can forget Captain Sensible :lol: 9 public image - the flowers of romance ...not heard this in ages but used to like it 10 adverts - gary gilmores eyes .....superb 11 x-ray spex - the day the world turned dayglow.......not a huge fan but remember this one 12 ruts - babylons burning ..........yep liked this one too I would add from my choice The Stranglers.........No more heroes..........just love this song The Clash - White riot........one of the first punk records i heard and got me interested
March 29, 200817 yr Author Some great choices there Rob, 1 sex pistols - pretty vacant ...I would agree my favourite Pistols record too 2 x-ray spex - was never really a fan of theirs 3 stranglers - something better change ok maybe not true punk but they used the movement to gain popularity with this super track.............totally agree :dance: 4 public image ltd - public image .........excellant track 5 angelic upstarts - im an upstart a great track from '79. 8 damned - love song............... heard this quite recently and still sounds good... who can forget Captain Sensible :lol: 9 public image - the flowers of romance ...not heard this in ages but used to like it 10 adverts - gary gilmores eyes .....superb 11 x-ray spex - the day the world turned dayglow.......not a huge fan but remember this one 12 ruts - babylons burning ..........yep liked this one too I would add from my choice The Stranglers.........No more heroes..........just love this song The Clash - White riot........one of the first punk records i heard and got me interested yeah, the clash are a glareing omission from my list, but tbh i never liked their material. ok i know they were a pivotal band, i know they were influencial, but i just didnt like them!
March 29, 200817 yr Here's my album of Punk tracks - what I would consider essential tunes: The Ramones - Sheena is a Punk Rocker How can you have any punk album without Da Brudders. The Damned - New Rose Even now gets me going. Tremendous drumming. The Buzzcocks - Orgasm Addict Intelligent end of the punk spectrum and definitely punk not new wave. Generation X - King Rocker Dumb but fun; Billy Idol all over really! Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden Yes! Yes! Yes! Stiff Little Fingers - Suspect Device High octane punk rock Penetration - Don't Dictate Furious The Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK Sums it all up best for me The Dead Kennedys - Holiday In Cambodia Picked up the baton and ran with it into the 80s The Clash - White Riot Still incendiary The Dead Boys - Sonic Reducer Can't forget the American side of punk The Undertones - Teenage Kicks Gotta have this classic! Edited March 29, 200817 yr by grebo69
March 30, 200817 yr My Punk Album list I should add I've tried to exclude New Wave Acts (Elvis Costello & The Attractions, Ian Dury & The Blockheads, Blondie, XTC, etc), Proto-punk acts (The Stooges, New York Dolls, Dr Feelgood, MC5, etc) and definitely all those corporate awful American acts of the 1990s who claim to be punk (Rage Against The Machine, Green Day, NOFX, Sum 41, My Chemical Romance, etc) : 1. Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K. Thanks to the production of Chris Thomas and the nihilistic vocals & lyrics by Johnny Rotten this is a great Rock'n'roll record. Period. 2. The Clash - White Riot For me they were the greatest ever punk band. Like Johnny Lydon they were intelligent individuals which showed in their work as they developed. 3. The Damned - New Rose Proof that you don't need to be John Bonhom or Keith Moon to produce a dynamic drum sounds like Rat Scabies did. Again a fantastic production from Nick Lowe. 4. Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop "Hey! Ho! Let's go!" Don't let the fact this track has been whored out in numerous video games & movies. Or chanted at US Baseball games put you off. A more effective use of three chords than anything in Status Quo's back catalogue. 5. The Ruts - Babylon's Burning Just a brilliant song. Just pips Staring At The Rude Boys for selection. 6. Stranglers - Peaches Thanks to a superb bassline & Hugh Cornwall's lewd lyrics & vocal performance, this song became as big a summer of 77 anthem as the Sex Pistols' God Save The Queen. 7. X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage, Up Yours To quote John Lydon in a 2002 Punk documentary: "Them, they came out with a sound and attitude and a whole energy - it was just not relating to anything around it - superb." Thanks to Poly Styrene's unique female vocals. 8. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden Part of the Bromley contingent, led by the singer/icon Siouxsie Sioux and the bassist Steven Severin, the band's only constant members, the Banshees formed at the advent of the British punk scene and soon became one of the major bands in the post-punk era. 9. The Buzzcocks - What Do I Get? Pete Shelley's high pitched vocals were at the more musical end of the punk rock spectrum. 10. The Members - The Sound Of The Suburbs A bit of a punk anthem even if it is a little derivative. 11. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks God bless John Peel. Such a good track even Busted failed to destroy this track Northern Ireland's contribution to the punk movement (I'm not that big a fan of Stiff Little Fingers). 12. Public Image Ltd - Public Image He was being trashed in the media heavily, and when he came out publicly to say that he was more than just the persona Johnny Rotten, his band and manager turned on him for betraying the band's 'public image'. He was rebelling against the fact he was expected to fit into some commercialized punk stereotype. The very concept that the 'Johnny Rotten' was a persona who's rights were owned by his record label basically showed that punk was becoming a parody of itself. (An example of that being he was a champion of the young new female artist called Kate Bush who got slaughtered by the likes of the NME at the time (She won the NME worst artist in the world award in 1978 FFS :angry:) because of her hippy imagery. He recently proved the same thing by publicly supporting Sandi Thom's I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker With Flowers In My Hair (It's title coming from an infamous Kate Bush interview quote in the late 1970s) even appearing on stage with her to sing that song and has slagged off the NME worshipped Lily Allen as "a fake & a fraud".) "my entrance my own creation my grand finale my goodbye!!!" Basically with this song he was saying Punk was dead, as it had turned into a corporate marketing movement by businessmen and record companies....
March 30, 200817 yr 6 sex pistols - no fun had to include this as i reckon its my fav punk track ever. off 'never mind the bollocks' it captures the angst and frustration many young disaffected youths felt in the mid 70's. It wasn't on "Never Mind The Bollocks" and it wasn't a Pistols song, the original is by Iggy and the Stooges. Can't fault the list though, i would of included The Clash - White Riot, The Damned - Smash It Up and Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster.
March 30, 200817 yr Aah… punk. This is where I came in. I'd already started collecting records when punk happened and changed everything. Suddenly Yes and Mike Oldfield seemed unlistenable. If you couldn't say it in three minutes you were definitely out of date. OK, I've mellowed a bit since then! Here's my album… The Stranglers - (Get A) Grip (On Yourself) This was their first single, and still my favourite. Saw them at Guildford Civic Hall in May 1977 (my first punk gig). Guildford was their home town (they started off as the Guildford Stranglers). They challenged the audience to get rid of the chairs which had been laid out in front of the stage - they ended up in a huge pile at the back of the hall. Punk gigs were banned at the venue for nearly a year! Buzzcocks - I Don't Mind My favourite Buzzcocks single. Love the key change towards the end. Swoon! Saw them at Guildford Civic Hall as well, in 1978. The Undertones - You've Got My Number (Why Don't You Use It?) Their other great single - and, to continue on a theme, I saw them at Guildford Civiv Hall as well, in 1979! The Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK The one, the only, the snarling, roaring Anarchy In The UK. After this everything was different. 999 - Nasty Nasty Recklessly over the top pop-punk on green vinyl! Their finest three minutes. X-Ray Spex - The Day The World Turned Day-Glo Poly Styrene was a true original. Saw them live at Croydon Greyhound in 1978. The venue was upstairs above some shops. Pogoing was banned because the plaster was coming off the ceilings in the stores below! The Heartbreakers - One Track Mind Johnny Thunders carried on with this punk band after the New York Dolls broke up - they even toured with the Sex Pistols. The Vibrators - Automatic Lover Cartoon punk from this lot, who's first two albums are definitely worth a listen. The Clash - Complete Control My favourite of their early singles - produced by Lee 'Scratch' Perry. Saw them at the Anti-Nazi Rally in Victoria Park in 1978. The Ramones - Swallow My Pride Yet another great single from Da Brudders. Get their first four albums. The Damned - New Rose The first single by a UK punk band. Bought it when it came out in 1976 and I've loved it ever since. Saw them in London at the Marquee in summer 1977. It was their first anniversary gig and they gave away a free single; Sick Of Being Sick / Stretcher Case Baby - wish I still had my copy. Generation X - Wild Youth Billy and the boys with three minutes of stompalong action. Bonus track The Saints - (I'm) Stranded All the way from the other side of the world, Australia's Saints may not have looked very punk but they sure sounded it. Edited March 31, 200817 yr by 45cat
March 31, 200817 yr Author It wasn't on "Never Mind The Bollocks" its on my copy! :lol: and thats from '77. oops... senior moment, it was 'no feelings' of course on nmtb, 'no fun' was the flip of 'pretty vacant'.
March 31, 200817 yr Author My Punk Album list I should add I've tried to exclude New Wave Acts (Elvis Costello & The Attractions, Ian Dury & The Blockheads, Blondie, XTC, etc), Proto-punk acts (The Stooges, New York Dolls, Dr Feelgood, MC5, etc) and definitely all those corporate awful American acts of the 1990s who claim to be punk (Rage Against The Machine, Green Day, NOFX, Sum 41, My Chemical Romance, etc) : 1. Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K. Thanks to the production of Chris Thomas and the nihilistic vocals & lyrics by Johnny Rotten this is a great Rock'n'roll record. Period. 2. The Clash - White Riot For me they were the greatest ever punk band. Like Johnny Lydon they were intelligent individuals which showed in their work as they developed. 3. The Damned - New Rose Proof that you don't need to be John Bonhom or Keith Moon to produce a dynamic drum sounds like Rat Scabies did. Again a fantastic production from Nick Lowe. 4. Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop "Hey! Ho! Let's go!" Don't let the fact this track has been whored out in numerous video games & movies. Or chanted at US Baseball games put you off. A more effective use of three chords than anything in Status Quo's back catalogue. 5. The Ruts - Babylon's Burning Just a brilliant song. Just pips Staring At The Rude Boys for selection. 6. Stranglers - Peaches Thanks to a superb bassline & Hugh Cornwall's lewd lyrics & vocal performance, this song became as big a summer of 77 anthem as the Sex Pistols' God Save The Queen. 7. X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage, Up Yours To quote John Lydon in a 2002 Punk documentary: "Them, they came out with a sound and attitude and a whole energy - it was just not relating to anything around it - superb." Thanks to Poly Styrene's unique female vocals. 8. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden Part of the Bromley contingent, led by the singer/icon Siouxsie Sioux and the bassist Steven Severin, the band's only constant members, the Banshees formed at the advent of the British punk scene and soon became one of the major bands in the post-punk era. 9. The Buzzcocks - What Do I Get? Pete Shelley's high pitched vocals were at the more musical end of the punk rock spectrum. 10. The Members - The Sound Of The Suburbs A bit of a punk anthem even if it is a little derivative. 11. The Undertones - Teenage Kicks God bless John Peel. Such a good track even Busted failed to destroy this track Northern Ireland's contribution to the punk movement (I'm not that big a fan of Stiff Little Fingers). 12. Public Image Ltd - Public Image He was being trashed in the media heavily, and when he came out publicly to say that he was more than just the persona Johnny Rotten, his band and manager turned on him for betraying the band's 'public image'. He was rebelling against the fact he was expected to fit into some commercialized punk stereotype. The very concept that the 'Johnny Rotten' was a persona who's rights were owned by his record label basically showed that punk was becoming a parody of itself. (An example of that being he was a champion of the young new female artist called Kate Bush who got slaughtered by the likes of the NME at the time (She won the NME worst artist in the world award in 1978 FFS :angry:) because of her hippy imagery. He recently proved the same thing by publicly supporting Sandi Thom's I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker With Flowers In My Hair (It's title coming from an infamous Kate Bush interview quote in the late 1970s) even appearing on stage with her to sing that song and has slagged off the NME worshipped Lily Allen as "a fake & a fraud".) "my entrance my own creation my grand finale my goodbye!!!" Basically with this song he was saying Punk was dead, as it had turned into a corporate marketing movement by businessmen and record companies.... cant fault these choices, an excellant album!
March 31, 200817 yr Author 12. Public Image Ltd - Public Image He was being trashed in the media heavily, and when he came out publicly to say that he was more than just the persona Johnny Rotten, his band and manager turned on him for betraying the band's 'public image'. He was rebelling against the fact he was expected to fit into some commercialized punk stereotype. The very concept that the 'Johnny Rotten' was a persona who's rights were owned by his record label basically showed that punk was becoming a parody of itself. (An example of that being he was a champion of the young new female artist called Kate Bush who got slaughtered by the likes of the NME at the time (She won the NME worst artist in the world award in 1978 FFS :angry:) because of her hippy imagery. He recently proved the same thing by publicly supporting Sandi Thom's I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker With Flowers In My Hair (It's title coming from an infamous Kate Bush interview quote in the late 1970s) even appearing on stage with her to sing that song and has slagged off the NME worshipped Lily Allen as "a fake & a fraud".) "my entrance my own creation my grand finale my goodbye!!!" Basically with this song he was saying Punk was dead, as it had turned into a corporate marketing movement by businessmen and record companies.... spot on, although punk wasnt dead! it went through several phases. HIS phase was dead, and pil came out in late 78 when as he rightly says his punk was dead. however you cant keep a good idea down and real punk became underground and loyal. often being used as a political weapon by groups such as CRASS. id suggest also the PIL went on making 'punk' right into the 80's.
April 1, 200817 yr spot on, although punk wasnt dead! it went through several phases. HIS phase was dead, and pil came out in late 78 when as he rightly says his punk was dead. however you cant keep a good idea down and real punk became underground and loyal. often being used as a political weapon by groups such as CRASS. id suggest also the PIL went on making 'punk' right into the 80's. tho it has been said thats its more like a stadium pubrock (something like that - was about Ginger Baker out of cream being in the band) - tho i like to think that PIL killed off that first wave of punk that became v commercial and were something different in the post-punk era - something actually much more important than the 'punk' we know of sex pistols era however if its not just about punk 77 - do early manic street preachers count as well??? well if you've already got the stranglers in your list.... :lol: :lol: you've got to put their brothers in make-up in the list :lol: )
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