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Thank you. I was a bit upset that although I knew there was a thread somewhere on .net it took me several goes to find it. I usually don't use the DFTB forum and I'm sure there are many others like me.
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It was shattering - as Pam says, imagine how her family are feeling - and there's nothing we can do to help them.

I'm going out for a meal with friends tonight but I just don't feel like it at all.

 

However, I will go because usually I do come to once I'm actually in the company.

everything else seems trivial - except it's not to the people concerned and it's hard to get on that level - and things are really important to those that are affected by them and my responses may not help. I'm better off hibernating.
Time to fill my head with the trivial - what to wear tonight. At least make up is no bother. I'm using the L'Oreal mineral kind now. It's a dawdle - tap the bottom, take off the lid, tap the excess off the brush and apply with a circular motion. It gives great cover but is really light. Then I do the same with the blusher. Bit of lippy and I'm ready
I don't do make up. I never had to, I was one of those lucky people with good skin, naturally long, black eyelashes and pinkish lips. I know I should now, but, I never really got into it as a youngster and it all seems too much bother. Besides, I feel like a painted doll. Me and make up just don't seem to go together.

I'm not doing well. All round me people seem to have real problems that I can't even begin to help withbut would love to help make them better if I could. My daughter has her own that are serious to her and a lot of her own making. The solution is in her hands one way or another and I just don't seem able to offer the degree of sympathy I should. I recognise that I'm wrong because her problems are problems but part of things that have been ongoing for a long time.

 

 

But impossible to get them to make your's instead. Hard to stand back when things are wrong.

We have to let them grow up and make their own decisions, which is difficult but is all part of them learning independence.

If they need help they will usually discuss things, even though they then need to make their own decision.

So easy to say, so difficult to carry out when love and maternal concern come into play.

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Isn't it just - especially when you know none of it need have happened with a little bit of common sense used at the beginning.
Meg, unfortunately you can't wave a magic wand and sort out everyone's problems. Often you can't help. They have to work things out for themselves. All you can do is be there to listen when they want to talk/vent a little.

As I remember Helen

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/megham/HelenIMG_0474resize.jpg

Do you also have the photo of Darius and Michael, the one she was so proud of? I remember her

posting it.

Helen looks lovely in that photo.....do you think her family might appreciate a copy, to be enclosed

with the tribute thread printout.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i274/Ninasi/Chicago01July0005.jpg
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