Radiohead and Spiritualized are two that spring to mind..... As far as UK music goes....

I agree with Radiohead

Spiritualized is a quite obscure band to me ;)

 

My Bloody Valentine as well, IF they get their asses in gear and actually release that third record sometime this century..... :lol:

I hope they will not be GNR part 2 :D

 

Primal Scream, when they're not being lazy and just copying The Stones...

I know only Screamadelica (gorgeous album) but I heard good things about XTRMNTR and Vanishing Point...

Spiritualized is a quite obscure band to me ;)

 

I wouldn't exactly call Spiritualized 'obscure'..... Every time they tour they do pretty big shows in good-sized venues. Not really an "indie toilet" sort of band who only sell records to a handful of mates.... :lol: I'd say Spiritualized would be at least as well known as MBV or JAMC (being from more or less the same era and all)...

 

I would compare how you feel about Happiness as a single choice to how I feel about Caravan Girl :lol:

 

Clowns or Little Bird would have been much better, imo.

 

 

i agree

I wouldn't exactly call Spiritualized 'obscure'..... Every time they tour they do pretty big shows in good-sized venues. Not really an "indie toilet" sort of band who only sell records to a handful of mates.... :lol: I'd say Spiritualized would be at least as well known as MBV or JAMC (being from more or less the same era and all)...

 

yeah think if youre into that kinda music or like new band who have a similar sound think Spiritualized would probs come up in the review as a reference point just as much as MBV or JAMC - as much as random bands like the Pixes, The Replacements, The Byrds, XTC or Big Star do

 

 

What other bands/artists are at the same level as MA / P?

 

maybe not at the same [cultural] level - if this is what you mean - but if you like MA/P you might like to have a look at the Lamb thread....

 

 

'Clowns' is the fourth single, confirmed by Lauren Laverne in an interview with Alison.

 

Ugh.

I think 'Clowns' is a fairly good choice, although I wanted 'Cologne Cerrone Houdini'.

yeah think if youre into that kinda music or like new band who have a similar sound think Spiritualized would probs come up in the review as a reference point just as much as MBV or JAMC - as much as random bands like the Pixes, The Replacements, The Byrds, XTC or Big Star do

maybe not at the same [cultural] level - if this is what you mean - but if you like MA/P you might like to have a look at the Lamb thread....

as you can see on that thread, I'm already familiar with their music... ^_^

 

I think 'Clowns' is a fairly good choice, although I wanted 'Cologne Cerrone Houdini'.

Cologne Cerrone Houdini is better as a single IMO

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It should obviously be Cologne Cerrone Houdini...

Cologne Cerrone Houdini is better as a single IMO

 

 

esp if it was backed by a cover of this!!! (tho if they were gonna do it you would hope they would invite billie ray martin and roisin murphy too and make it a great collaboration)

I think 'Clowns' being released is Goldfrapp's two-fingered salute to the music business - they know it won't get played on radio (the lyrics for one thing), they won't get invited to sing it on any safe daytime shows and the fans who 'discovered' Goldfrapp because of Ooh La La and the Supernature era will be running off into the distance back to their Rachel Stevens or something similarly crass. Hallebloodylujah to that I say! :yahoo:

 

I still think Eat Yourself is the best non-single track on Seventh Tree - closely followed by Cocteau Twins-by-numbers Little Bird. I just hope that they can erase all memory of Caravan Girl from their history.

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I still think Eat Yourself is the best non-single track on Seventh Tree - closely followed by Cocteau Twins-by-numbers Little Bird. I just hope that they can erase all memory of Caravan Girl from their history.

Little Bird is my fave track on Seventh Tree: one of the best Goldfrapp songs ever done

But from the first listen I knew they will not release it as a single...

I really like 'Clowns' though agree there are better tracks to release. Shame they released their previous two singles though, I think both are what they did FAR better on their previous album...

TBH Caravan Girl was the track that finally got me into the album. Got a bit of a Polyphonic Spree feel to me and that was enough. I didn't rate A&E at all when I first heard it. Now I've had the album on repeat for the last 24 hours I am getting it.

I didn't rate A&E at all when I first heard it. Now I've had the album on repeat for the last 24 hours I am getting it.

 

And this is precisely what you have to do with this album.. Listen to it again and again to really appreciate it... It's not an immediate sort of album, it's one that grows with each listen... "Seventh Tree" and "Felt Mountain" are far more what Goldfrapp actually are as a band, than that vapid "Supernature" rubbish.... Though, "Black Cherry" is a good record...

 

Acutally, I've been listening a lot to a band called I AM X... Former Sneaker Pimp Chris Corner's band who do this whole Glam/Electro/Cyber hybrid thing marvellously well, certainly a lot better than Goldfrapp managed on "Supernature" IMO, if Goldfrapp had followed up "Black Cherry" with an album of the quality of I AM X's "The Alternative", then that really would've been something... You should check out I AM X, they're really good, but of course dont get the Press hype or anything like the success they deserve (sort of like Client in that respect...).

 

the fans who 'discovered' Goldfrapp because of Ooh La La and the Supernature era will be running off into the distance back to their Rachel Stevens or something similarly crass. Hallebloodylujah to that I say! :yahoo:

This attitude is awful. I'm sure Goldfrapp themselves were aiming to extend their fanbase; what group wouldn't want their music, their passion, broadcast to as wide a rang of people as possible? You talk about the new fans brought in during the Supernature era as if it's a bad thing. Why must it be a bad thing? Because, in your experience, some of them were ignorant at the concerts? That's not every one of the new fans by a long shot. You don't seem to have any real reason for being so bitter towards the fans who came on board during Supernature. In actual fact, Goldfrapp should be, and I don't doubt are, very glad that they exploded in 2005 because who knows where they'd be now if they hadn't. It's hard to say whether they would've been allowed the totally free artistic license to go in the direction they have with Seventh Tree, without that new lease of life in 05.

I didn't notice them until Ooh La La and I love Clowns so it doesnt necaserily mean that the new fans from Supernature will all run from the new album, i happen to like both :D.

Goldfrapp should be, and I don't doubt are, very glad that they exploded in 2005 because who knows where they'd be now if they hadn't. It's hard to say whether they would've been allowed the totally free artistic license to go in the direction they have with Seventh Tree, without that new lease of life in 05.

 

 

err...I think you'll find Goldfrapp were selling quite a few records before 2005 - they'd had worldwide success way before this, a colossal cult following the world over and were 'the' name on everyone who mattered's lips for the first two albums.

 

You're lumping Goldfrapp in with your usual standard fare pop band - and this they most certainly are not. Never have been, never will be. This 'artistic license' you talk about is as if Kylie had gone off and been 'allowed' to make an album that doesn't sound like tatty old Roisin Murphy b-sides. Goldfrapp are on Mute - in fact, I'd go far as to say they're probably the jewel in Mute's crown - and have been since Black Cherry... Mute are not your average label - they encourage diversity, outlandish individuality, they champion off-the-wall leftfield music.

 

Alison Goldfrapp is in Bjork territory as far as Mute are concerned...she could release an album of herself vomiting in tune to the Hokey Cokey and it'd get a huge full-blown release and the fanbase would flock for it (in fact, hasn't Bjork already done this? :unsure: ).

 

This artistic freedom certainly didn't arise from Supernature - if anything, the people at Mute weren't too happy with the pop direction of Supernature (and I have this on good authority).

I thought you (or Grimly? hmm) had said in this very thread previously that the group themselves (or Alison at least) didn't like the pop direction of Supernature? If neither she nor the label did, why would they have gone ahead with it?

Alison Goldfrapp's headstrong enough to know what she likes or not.... but I'm not sure, in retrospect, she's that keen on Supernature or the whole glam dominatrix image she created for it.....

 

I do know that when the band presented the album to Mute there was a lot of chin-stroking and shaking heads.

but I'm not sure, in retrospect, she's that keen on Supernature or the whole glam dominatrix image she created for it.....

 

She's does regret it in a lot of ways, and actually said so in an interview she did..... She certainly regrets the "horse-tail" thing.... :lol: