Of all the rockers who died young, whose career do you believe was cut short before they could realize their full potential?

 

Janis Joplin :wub:

Jim Morrison

hendrix...

 

joplin too but i reckon shes have 'found god' by now and would just be an embarrassing old slapper, a shadow of her former self.

Joplin = see Amy Winehouse, I think she had creatively done her best via the blues/rock explosion of the late 1960s, but she had a bit of a death wish a la Wino Junkie. Although I would have loved to have heard her duet with Robert Plant on Led Zeppelin's Battle Of Evermore, which was the original thought process as a more raucous track, which was subsequently recorded as a more folkish track with the equally wonderful Sandy Denny (who also had an untimely death falling down the stairs in 1977).

 

Jim Morrison = see Michael Hutchence, the band had peaked, and had he lived they/he would have faded as the 1970s progressed like Crosby, Stills & Nash.

 

Hendrix = a great suggestion, as I think he would have been the Rock equivalent of Miles Davis, doing albums with Brian Eno or Phillip Glass type of thing, although I could easily imagine a Santana type renaissance collaborative album around 2000 with the likes of Lenny Kravitz, Sheryl Crow, Eddie Vedder, etc.

 

My suggestion would be either Ian Curtis or Kurt Cobain...

Jimi and Kurt.

 

Both looked as though they were taking music to another level.

 

Jim Morrison had a promising career as a bluesman but I think he was past his prime. Janis had definitely already recorded her best music.

 

I personally would have Andrew Wood, lead singer of Mother Love Bone and Buddy Holly who could well have gone on to even greater things.

My suggestion would be either Ian Curtis or Kurt Cobain...

 

Same here.. Both had just so much more to offer the world.. The likes of Jim Morrison and John Lennon had already pretty much given us their best and realised their potentials...

 

Jeff Buckley is undoubtedly another, he'd barely begun to scratch the surface of his incredible talent.... In many ways Buckley's death was far more tragic than Cobain's....

 

But these are all talented young people taken from the world in cruel ways...

 

To quote 'Bladerunner' - "The light that shines twice as bright burns half as long, and you have shone so very brightly...." These incredible young artists certainly did that and they left us with unforgettable music....

Kurt, Jimi and Jeff.

Not so much a 'rock' death - but one of my fave artists from the 70's (I'd made a habit of going to see him at Southport Theatre every year) - Harry Chapin. WOLD and Cats in the Cradle are two of my favourite songs. I even like Ugly Kid Joe's cover of CITC (but it isn't as good as Harry's).

 

 

Norma

Edited May 21, 200817 yr by Shy_Talk

Jeff Buckley I totally agree with - to have lost such a huge talent so early is just the saddest thing. My favourite piece of work of his is a demo of a duet he made with his girlfriend - Cocteau Twin Elizabeth Fraser. 'All Flowers In Time Bend Towards The Sun' is just stunning.

 

Lennon, too - whatever you may say about his later music, it was great to see hime getting out and about again after so long, and after hearing the pretty excellent Milk and Honey follow-up album to Double Fantasy - he still had some excellent songs left in him.

 

Don't agree about Cobain at all, though - he was just another average smack-addled rawk star - Nirvana remain, IMO, the world's most overrated band - ever. They had one colossal album and a fairly muted response to the follow-up. The debut album sank without trace - it's nonsense to somehow propel him up with the music Gods on the basis of Nevermind which still, to my ears, is knuckle-munchingly average. At least In Utero was a good album, if far from a great one.

Don't agree about Cobain at all, though - he was just another average smack-addled rawk star - Nirvana remain, IMO, the world's most overrated band - ever. They had one colossal album and a fairly muted response to the follow-up. The debut album sank without trace - it's nonsense to somehow propel him up with the music Gods on the basis of Nevermind which still, to my ears, is knuckle-munchingly average. At least In Utero was a good album, if far from a great one.

 

Don't agree with your savage critique of Kurt Cobain in the slightest mate... The guy was much more than a Rock-Star.... In fact, 'Rock Star' was something he certainly wasn't, he was probably the Anti-Rock Star... And I'm pretty convinced that it was a combination of his Junkie skank of a wife, the pressures of fame and people's unrealistic expectancies of him, that turned him onto heroin more than anything...

 

Bleach "sank without trace" because it wasn't as polished or poppy as "Nevermind"... It was mostly a hard-edged, raw-as-fukk, brutal-sounding piece of REAL Punk Rock which was recorded more-or-less live on a battered old 4-Track.. MTV was never gonna play any of that stuff, not even "About A Girl", which is a really beautiful song....

 

Nevermind has great songs on it which sounded AWESOME when performed live... What let that album down is Butch Vig and his lame-o MTV-friendly production...

 

In Utero is a classic album, one of the greatest albums of the 1990s... Albini's production was absolutely superb.. Shame that certain people within Geffen decided to play Politics and convince Kurt that a few of the tracks should've been "touched up" a bit to make them sound slightly more MTV-friendly, it's the only thing that slightly mars an otherwise perfect slice of Alt-Rock. The muted response was because of the fact that people just didn't "get it", well, probably more like they couldn't handle it (let's face it, tracks like "Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle", "Radio Friendly Unit Shifter", "All Apologies", "Pennyroyal Tea" and "Milk It" were never really gonna go down with the Frat Boys and Jocks were they?).... A bit like people "not getting " 'Seventh Tree' (Goldfrapp) and 'The Open Door' (Evanescence) actually.....

 

Saying Nirvana were the most over-rated band ever is just patent nonsense mate..... If you want over-rated, it's the serious sh"t like Queen, Jacko, Duf Leotard, Post-Gabriel Genesis and Bon Jovi you should be going to....

Randy Rhoads

Jeff Buckley

CLIFF BURTON.... ....in the middle of a world tour and during Metallica's prime.

 

Randy Rhoads...... shows you shouldn't f*** about in a plane, lol.

Hendrix... The wind crys Jimi?

Has to be that great soul legend Otis Redding.

 

Only 26 when he died in that plane crash on 10 Dec 1967

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Obit: Nick Sanderson: Singer with art rockers Earl Brutus, train driver and World Of Twist member

 

 

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Wednesday, 18 June 2008 by Roy Wilkinson

 

Nick Sanderson played in post-punk rock groups including The Jesus and Mary Chain, The Gun Club, World of Twist and Earl Brutus. Earl Brutus's chaotic live shows featured a bracing mix of glam-rock and synthesisers – plus wind machines wafting Brut aftershave over the audience and a line of seven big stage-prop plastic wreaths. They spelt two words: "f*** OFF". To a degree, Earl Brutus were rock's answer to Jake and Dinos Chapman, treading a line with conceptual art that resonates even now: the Turner Prize-winning artist Jeremy Deller is currently working on a project that juxtaposes Earl Brutus and the Industrial Revolution.

 

 

Earl Brutus literally gave Sanderson a voice. Previously, he'd been a drummer, first becoming a professional player in the early Eighties with the Sheffield post-punk group Clock DVA. Earlier, Iggy Pop had made a similar move from drums to vocals. The Detroit provocateur also foreshadowed Sanderson's mix of brutishness and strange sagacity.

 

When Earl Brutus formed in the early Nineties, Sanderson became a lyricist and singer after 10 years on the drum stool. More accurately, he was a mob orator in a band which bellowed terrace-style about the Royal Navy, railway engines and "hair design by Nicky Clarke". Most of all, Earl Brutus addressed the wonder and idiocy of our celebrity-obsessed, consumption-fixated society.

 

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Sanderson's father held a senior position in what was then British Rail and the nascent musician attended boarding school in Bristol. After school, there was considerable time on the dole, but Sanderson didn't seriously consider any career beyond music. When he joined Clock DVA, the tour crew included the lighting engineer Jim Fry, the younger brother of Martin Fry of the Sheffield pop conceptualists ABC. Jim Fry became Sanderson's co-conspirator. In Earl Brutus, he became his co-vocalist, too.

 

Before and alongside Earl Brutus, Sanderson drummed for the punk-blues group The Gun Club. He also played for The Jesus and Mary Chain on their 1998 album Munki. The Gun Club had a lasting effect – earlier this year Sanderson married the band's Japanese bassist, Romi Mori. But Sanderson's place in these bands was as session musician.

 

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With World of Twist, the Manchester-based group who, in spirit, attempted to restage Roxy Music's art-school pop under Blackpool illuminations, Sanderson was more central. However, when this group failed to make the predicted commercial breakthrough in the early Nineties, Sanderson was left to rethink things – alongside Jim Fry, who'd overseen the group's visuals. Earl Brutus was born.

 

The band's first single, "Life's Too Long", appeared in 1993 on Icerink, a label run by the indie-pop group Saint Etienne. The comedian Noel Fielding is a fan. Jay Jopling, art dealer for Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin, was sometimes seen at shows. Earl Brutus did have some common ground with the conceptualised output of the Brit Art school. But they celebrated the poetry and desolation of contemporary life in a more demotic, populist style. Rather than the gallery, Earl Brutus's natural habitat was the rubbish-strewn rock festival – or, even more, the pub.

 

The band took their name from an imaginary alehouse and were once described by a journalist as "pub-talk made real". This was the essence of Earl Brutus – strange, impassioned snug-bar tirades set loose by alcohol, but this time preserved forever on record. "Our dream," Sanderson once told me, "is to record the perfect song to be played at chucking-out time. That's when music makes most sense."

 

The band eventually signed a substantial deal with the Island Records subsidiary Fruition. The two Earl Brutus albums, Your Majesty. . . We Are Here (1996) and Tonight You Are the Special One (1998) were praised by the press, but didn't trouble the charts. Yet, this "heroic failure" amounted to another facet of the band's celebration of British life. This and the band's relatively advanced years were condensed into one of several captivating slogans: "Pop Music is Wasted on the Young".

 

Eventually, following Earl Brutus's commercial failure, Sanderson was forced to get a job. As documented on the Earl Brutus song "Train Driver in Eyeliner", he became an engine driver on the Brighton to London line.

 

Earl Brutus made powerful future-glam art-pop. It was at once barbaric and poignant – and inseparable from its authors. Sanderson's interests were broad, including ornithology, Manchester United and British history. I remember him describing a birdwatching trip to see some hawfinches in Norfolk. He didn't find the birds, instead ending up drunk in the dark and falling down some coastal bluffs. His clothes torn, his face scratched, he knocked on the door of some remote cottage. Surprisingly perhaps, the stranger who answered let Sanderson in. The pair then spent the rest of the night in high-spirited revelry.

 

Nicholas Robert Sanderson, musician and train driver: born Sheffield, South Yorkshire 22 April 1961; married 2008 Romi Mori (one son); died London 8 June 2008.

 

This is quite shocking to think of even tho i don't really know the band (probs think of an Art Brut franchise) -tho when i have come across the album cover with the cars thats something that i have liked and looked at...(and probs would buy if it was v cheap to investigate further) - but when you read the word World Of Twist and realize that he was a member of that group - aand seeing that the singer of 'World Of Twist' Tony Ogden died a few months back with some say his potential unrealized....and they were supposed to be one of those failed bands who came along at the wrong time, slightly too early in pop history when baggy ladrock vibes were not too friendly for a group of Roxy glamsters... but they were supposed to have kinda acted as a 'cultural lubricant' for the impending britpop success of Pulp a few years later (even tho versions of Pulp had been going since the early 1980s) who started to break thru straight after 'World Of Twist' had imploded and had paved the way with their small chart successes....

 

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