Posted May 24, 200817 yr It would've looked like this: Russia 152Ukraine 143Norway 131Armenia 121Greece 116Turkey 88Serbia 81Israel 77Bosnia & Herzegovina 68Azerbaijan 59Iceland 58Georgia 48Denmark 44Latvia 39Portugal 33Spain 31Sweden 30France 30Croatia 29Romania 26Albania 21Finland 21Poland 4United Kingdom 0Germany 0 Much closer at the top - would've all gone down to the Norweigan vote. :o
May 24, 200817 yr It would be better for the finalists to have voted, instead of all 43 countries, at least that way they can announce all the points, instead of announcing just the top 3 points.
May 24, 200817 yr the interesting thing would be to see what the results would be like if only Western countries voted
May 24, 200817 yr Author the interesting thing would be to see what the results would be like if only Western countries voted Aye it would. :o I might try and work that out!
May 24, 200817 yr Author Ok, here's what it would've been with western countries voting. France, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, United Kingdom, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden, Portugal, Norway, Malta, Andorra and San Marino. Greece 79Norway 71Turkey 64Armenia 63Portugal 62Ukraine 59Latvia 54Iceland 51Serbia 50Russia 46Bosnia & Herzegovina 45Denmark 44Spain 37Israel 31Sweden 31Romania 24France 23Finland 22Azerbaijan 17United Kingdom 14Poland 14Albania 11Croatia 8Georgia 6Germany 2 Hmm...
May 24, 200817 yr You should also add countries like Greece and Cyprus from the South, they're in no way linked to Russia are they>
May 24, 200817 yr This was how I did it last year to seperate Europe, funny that the top 2 were the same... Ok, here is MY analysis. I've seperated Europe into two parts. One part containing all the Baltic & Former Soviet states and the other containing the rest of Europe. This is how the REST OF EUROPE voted. This includes votes from Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Malta, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Turkey & UK. I have discounted votes from Albania, Armenia, Belarus, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Estonia, Macedonia, Georgia, Hungary, Latvia, Moldova, Lithuania, Montenegro, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovenia & Ukraine. The results table would look like this... Edited May 24, 200817 yr by RabbitFurCoat
May 24, 200817 yr Author You should also add countries like Greece and Cyprus from the South, they're in no way linked to Russia are they> Greece are a bit iffy tbh. They always vote for Albania and Bulgaria. I should've included Israel though, they always seem to vote for the songs.
May 24, 200817 yr Greece are a bit iffy tbh. They always vote for Albania and Bulgaria. I should've included Israel though, they always seem to vote for the songs. To be honest I've only really watched Eurovision the last three years. All I see is people moaning about political (Bloc) voting and voting for their neighbours. It's mainly the countries in the east, but only certain ones, the Baltics and the Balkans, the former Yugoslav countries and the former Soviet countries. As far as I'm aware the likes of Greece, Turkey and Cyprus have always been apart from those? They certainly are geographically. The same with Czech Republic, Slovakia and Poland. They're more tied in with the likes of Austria or Germany than anywhere the other side... Edited May 24, 200817 yr by RabbitFurCoat
May 25, 200817 yr adding Finland: 1 - Norway 83 2 - Greece 79 3 - Turkey 68 4 - Armenia 63 5 - Portugal 62 6 - Ukraine 62 7 - Latvia 54 8 - Iceland 58 9 - Russi 56 10 - Bosnia & Herzegovina 51 11 - Serbia 50 12 - Denmark 44 13 - Israel 39 14 - Spain 38 15 - Sweden 36 16 - France 25 17 - Romania 24 18 - Finland 22 19 - Azerbaijan 17 20 - United Kingdom 14 21 - Poland 14 22 - Albania 11 23 - Croatia 8 24 - Georgia 6 25 - Germany 2
May 25, 200817 yr Eastern European votes: 1 - Russia 216 2 - Ukraine 168 3 - Greece 139 4 - Armenia 136 5 - Azerbaijan 115 6 - Serbia 110 7 - Norway 99 8 - Israel 85 9 - Georgia 77 10 - Turkey 70 11 - Bosnia 59 12 - Albania 44 13 - Croatia 36 14 - Latvia 29 15 - France 22 16 - Romania 21 17 - Spain 17 18 - Denmark 16 19 - Finland 13 20 - Germany 12 21 - Sweden 9 22 - Portugal 7 23 - Iceland 6 24 - Poland 0 25 - United Kingdom 0
May 25, 200817 yr Author Eastern European votes: 1 - Russia 216 2 - Ukraine 168 3 - Greece 139 4 - Armenia 136 5 - Azerbaijan 115 6 - Serbia 110 7 - Norway 99 8 - Israel 85 9 - Georgia 77 10 - Turkey 70 11 - Bosnia 59 12 - Albania 44 13 - Croatia 36 14 - Latvia 29 15 - France 22 16 - Romania 21 17 - Spain 17 18 - Denmark 16 19 - Finland 13 20 - Germany 12 21 - Sweden 9 22 - Portugal 7 23 - Iceland 6 24 - Poland 0 25 - United Kingdom 0 That's awful for Portugal! :o
May 25, 200817 yr yeah its quite bad, considering in the semifinals all of Eastern Europe voted for Portugal.
May 25, 200817 yr If finalists only voted, the result would have been the same. The problem is not the number of countries voting in the final, but number of Russia/Greece/ Ukraine/ Turkey/Armenia/ Serbia supporters, who will be the same even if you make only 10 countries vote. That's because those country have most neighbours/diasporra. Only solution is adding jury to the televotes, and setting a ratio of 50/50 or 70/30 to the results.
May 25, 200817 yr If finalists only voted, the result would have been the same. The problem is not the number of countries voting in the final, but number of Russia/Greece/ Ukraine/ Turkey/Armenia/ Serbia supporters, who will be the same even if you make only 10 countries vote. That's because those country have most neighbours/diasporra. Only solution is adding jury to the televotes, and setting a ratio of 50/50 or 70/30 to the results. you say about most neighbours well germany hould have had way more then cozthey are bordered by about 7 o r 8 countrys and theyy were down the bottom
May 25, 200817 yr You get what I mean, don't you? Germany's neighbours are not the same ethnic/cultural group. When I say "neighbours", I don't mean actual ones. Rather "friends".
May 25, 200817 yr I'm struggling to understand what Bulgaria were thinking yesterday evening...did viewers get a prize if they voted for Germany :heehee:
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