Posted June 10, 200817 yr Was it Black Sabbath? What songs from the 60’s influenced and led into the heavy rock of the 70’s? Bands like The Kinks, The Who, The Yardbirds, Cream, Rolling Stones and The Beatles modified the way rock was played adding heavier guitar riffs, drumming and vocals.
June 10, 200817 yr As soon as I read the title I thought Black Sabbath. :lol: (Especially 'Paranoid', that kind of kicked it off really). I don't think their was actually mutch in the 60's that influenced heavy metal, like you said, the Stones, Beatles, Yardbirds etc. just moulded rock into 'rock', and then nutty old Ozzy came along... :lol:
June 10, 200817 yr i think josh is near the mark... it just evolved from the emerging rock/blues scene. dont forget the flavour of music in the 60's was blues based rock and pop. 'hold tight', dave dee, dozy, beaky, mick and titch 's pop song from 66 was pretty 'heavy', id argue that if it was released by a respected 'rock' act as opposed to a pop act it would have been one of the first. and the yardbirds 'over under sideways down' (66) was another ground breaker.
June 12, 200817 yr I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Hendrix here yet. Hendrix bridged the gap between Blues and Hard Rock certainly, but I dunno whether it could be argued that he actually initiated Heavy Metal.... I would say that this was more down to Black Sabbath tbh, Tommy Iommi's heavy-duty power-riffs are really the blueprint for all Metal and related sub-genres (such as Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Cradle of Filth, Emperor, Darkthrone, Opeth....) that were to follow more than Hendrix or Page.....
June 12, 200817 yr Yardbirds - The band featured Eric Clapton - Jeff Beck - Jimmy Page I think they got discounted earlier on because they were more Blues-Rock oriented.... Metal is a different matter... I don't really know of many Metal bands of this era who would claim Yardbirds as an influence, but just about EVERY Metal act cites Black Sabbath as a formitive influence....
June 12, 200817 yr I think they got discounted earlier on because they were more Blues-Rock oriented.... Metal is a different matter... I don't really know of many Metal bands of this era who would claim Yardbirds as an influence, but just about EVERY Metal act cites Black Sabbath as a formitive influence.... .... but im certain the young black sabbath would have been heavily influenced by groups like the yardbirds who were up n running whilst ozzys mob were just leaving school. clapton, beck, page, were certainly influencial.
June 12, 200817 yr But then Ozzy's biggest influence was The Beatles and that means things like Helter Skelter.
June 12, 200817 yr But then Ozzy's biggest influence was The Beatles and that means things like Helter Skelter. Whilst Paul has admitted he was inspired by trying to write a "heavier" song than The Who's I Can See For Miles CuYgdYc0Ie4 The Who - I Can See For Miles (1967)
June 12, 200817 yr I heard mention somewhere, but can't remember where, exactly, that Steppenwolf were the 'grandfathers' or 'godfathers' of heavy metal....maybe I mis-heard what was actually said....
June 13, 200817 yr If we are going back then surely Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida could be one of those tracks that influenced the development of heavy rock.
June 13, 200817 yr .... but im certain the young black sabbath would have been heavily influenced by groups like the yardbirds who were up n running whilst ozzys mob were just leaving school. clapton, beck, page, were certainly influencial. That's irrelevant though... At the end of the day, METAL is about the power-riffs and power-chords, and also very intricate heavy solos.... The whole genesis of heavy power riffing, etc comes from what Iommi did in Sabbath... Sure, they took influences, but they completely came up with an original way of doing things, in much the same way as The Beatles took a different approach to what Bill Hailey, Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry did....
June 13, 200817 yr If we are going back then surely Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida could be one of those tracks that influenced the development of heavy rock. "In A Gadda Da Vida" is more known for the elaborate organ signatures than guitar riffs.... Metal is about guitar riffs first and foremost.... I would put "In A Gadda Da Vida" as being more "Psychadelic Rock" or "Acid Rock".....
June 13, 200817 yr Black Sabbath 1yntdJ1kDI4 The first song from the first album, i believe this is the birth of heavy metal, no body else had done this sound, this heaviness before bassist 'Geezer' Butler wrote this song. sorry that it's only live. NIB r6sViZZjiZE Some classic Sabbath Not many people know that before becoming the heavy metal band that we all know them to be that they were actually a blues band. Some songs from their early era still retain this blues influence. Solitude MQBT5Gwp2A0
June 13, 200817 yr Not many people know that before becoming the heavy metal band that we all know them to be that they were actually a blues band. Some songs from their early era still retain this blues influence. Yeah, I knew that... Sab did a few covers of old Willie Dixon and Howlin' Wolf songs...
June 13, 200817 yr "In A Gadda Da Vida" is more known for the elaborate organ signatures than guitar riffs.... Metal is about guitar riffs first and foremost.... I would put "In A Gadda Da Vida" as being more "Psychadelic Rock" or "Acid Rock"..... If that isn't one of the most basic riffs running through most of the song (and it is 17 minutes long) then I don't know what is.
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