Posted June 12, 200817 yr Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:35 UK 'Jewish settler attack' on film By Tim Franks BBC News, Jerusalem http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7451569.stm Footage of West Bank attack Footage from a video camera handed out by an Israeli human rights group appears to show Jewish settlers beating up Palestinians in the West Bank. An elderly shepherd, his wife and a nephew said they were attacked by four masked men for allowing their animals to graze near the settlement of Susia. The rights group, B'Tselem, said the cameras were provided to enable Palestinians to get proof of attacks. A spokesman for the Israeli police said that an investigation was under way. So far, no-one has been arrested. Baseball bats For the past year, B'Tselem has handed out video cameras to Palestinians as part of its "Shooting Back" project. The Palestinians said they were attacked after refusing to move The BBC has been given exclusive access to the footage of this particular attack, which happened earlier this week. The date and time on the camera footage shows that it is Sunday afternoon. Over the brow of the hill walk four masked men holding baseball bats. To the right of the screen, in the foreground, stands a 58-year-old Palestinian woman. Thamam al-Nawaja has been herding her goats close to the Jewish settlement of Susia, near Hebron in the southern West Bank. Within a few seconds, she, along with her 70-year-old husband and one of her nephews, will be beaten up. As the first blows land, the woman filming - the daughter-in-law of the elderly couple - drops the camera and runs for help. 'Ten-minute warning' Mrs Nawaja spent three days in hospital after the attack. Returning to the small Palestinian encampment close to the red-roofed houses of Susia, she stepped slowly and unsteadily out of the minibus. A dark stain showed through the white gauze covering her broken right arm. Her veil was lifted gingerly away from her lined face. A bloodshot eye and intersection of scars revealed a fractured left cheek. "The settlers gave us a 10-minute warning to clear off from the land," she told me, her voice a tired, cracked whisper. She and her husband had stood their ground. It is at this point that her voice grows louder. "They don't want us to stay on our land. But we won't leave. We'll die here. It's ours," she added. Indeed, the rest of the world regards Jewish settlements in the West Bank such as Susia, as illegal, built on occupied territory. Those settlements have been a large part of the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis for the last 41 years. The daily confrontation is not often caught on camera. That, now, is beginning to change. Video proof The attack near Susia was filmed with one of 100 video cameras that B'Tselem has handed out to Palestinians in the region. The thinking behind the project is that when trouble flares, rather than just giving a statement to the Israeli police or army, video carries much more weight. "The difference is amazing," says Oren Yakobovich, who leads the Shooting Back project. "When they have the camera, they have proof that something happened. They now have something they can work with, to use as a weapon." We asked a spokesman from the Susia settlement for a comment on Sunday's incident. He declined. Inside one of the tents belonging to the Palestinians living near Susia, we watched the footage of the aftermath of the attack - the victims slumped by the roadside, bloodied, waiting for an ambulance. The bright, wide eyes of the children shone with the light of the small television screen. Violence against Jews as well as Palestinians has long scarred this place. Video may now may be giving us a new and raw view. But for most people here, the only answer - a political deal - remains out of sight. Am I the only one who thinks what Israelis have got away with in the West Bank has helped fuel the religious hatred towards the West over the last decade due to the West's hypocrisy in turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities on Palestine?
June 13, 200817 yr [ Am I the only one who thinks what Israelis have got away with in the West Bank has helped fuel the religious hatred towards the West over the last decade due to the West's hypocrisy in turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities on Palestine? in a word...... no. of course the american/wests favourite eastern race can get away with such acts <_<, you just know that there would be outcry if the situation was reversed.
June 13, 200817 yr Am I the only one who thinks what Israelis have got away with in the West Bank has helped fuel the religious hatred towards the West over the last decade due to the West's hypocrisy in turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities on Palestine? No, you most certainly are not Rich... These buggers have been getting away with this sort of thing (and a damn sight WORSE) for decades, mainly thanks to the good ole USofA handing them constant "get out of jail free cards" every time the UN tried to impose sanctions upon Israel.. The hypocrisy of the US has been the fundamental cause of much of the terrorism in Palestine, and is probably the main contributing factor behind 9/11 also.... This is basically why I had that huge bust-up with Craig a while back..... Well, that and the fact that he basicall advocated the sterilization/extermination of the Palestinian people merely for fighting back against their oppressors by whatever means necessary... I dont actually believe that we would even HAVE suicide bombings and Hamas in power if the West had responded more favourably to Arafat and the PLO in the 1970s.... At the end of the day, I think we're just reaping what we've sowed in that region, and frankly, America deserved what it got for its hypocrisy and its sponsoring of Isreali State oppression.... Oh, and let's not forget the minor detail that the US gave Israel nuclear weapons, totally flying in the face of non-proliferation treaties, which is probably the main contributing factor in the likes of Iran wanting its own nuclear capability..... This is what happens when you start a fukkin' arms race..... <_<
June 17, 200817 yr No, you most certainly are not Rich... These buggers have been getting away with this sort of thing (and a damn sight WORSE) for decades, mainly thanks to the good ole USofA handing them constant "get out of jail free cards" every time the UN tried to impose sanctions upon Israel.. The hypocrisy of the US has been the fundamental cause of much of the terrorism in Palestine, and is probably the main contributing factor behind 9/11 also.... This is basically why I had that huge bust-up with Craig a while back..... Well, that and the fact that he basicall advocated the sterilization/extermination of the Palestinian people merely for fighting back against their oppressors by whatever means necessary... I dont actually believe that we would even HAVE suicide bombings and Hamas in power if the West had responded more favourably to Arafat and the PLO in the 1970s.... At the end of the day, I think we're just reaping what we've sowed in that region, and frankly, America deserved what it got for its hypocrisy and its sponsoring of Isreali State oppression.... Oh, and let's not forget the minor detail that the US gave Israel nuclear weapons, totally flying in the face of non-proliferation treaties, which is probably the main contributing factor in the likes of Iran wanting its own nuclear capability..... This is what happens when you start a fukkin' arms race..... <_< The same Arafat that was head of the PLO that committed numerous hijackings, bombings, mass murders of Israeli's in the 1970's ? the same Arafat as head of Black September that was responsible for the murder of the Israeli athletes in Munich ? He was no saint mate, the guy has a lot of blood on his hands regardless of the rights or wrongs of Israel/Palestine
June 17, 200817 yr The same Arafat that was head of the PLO that committed numerous hijackings, bombings, mass murders of Israeli's in the 1970's ? the same Arafat as head of Black September that was responsible for the murder of the Israeli athletes in Munich ? He was no saint mate, the guy has a lot of blood on his hands regardless of the rights or wrongs of Israel/Palestine so if the palestinians are as guilty as the israelis for terrorism, why dont you want the israeli nation to be 'mass castrated' out of existance?..
June 17, 200817 yr I have done a lot of reading on the situation while I was away, took the time to study the conflict in more detail and my opinions of some Israeli politicians have changed somewhat
June 17, 200817 yr it is a completely fcuked up area... too much hatred, too much religious fervour, there isnt a happy ever after in the middle east.
June 17, 200817 yr The same Arafat that was head of the PLO that committed numerous hijackings, bombings, mass murders of Israeli's in the 1970's ? the same Arafat as head of Black September that was responsible for the murder of the Israeli athletes in Munich ? The murder of the Israeli athletes in Munich was as much down to the sheer incompetence of the German police as it was Black September though.... One would almost think the German authorities wanted these Israeli athletes killed...... -_- And, anyway, unfortunate as that incident was, how do you think that compares to the tens of thousands of Palestinins killed, oppressed and driven from their lands, turned into refugees and made homeless mate...? Sorry, but, some perspective here, yes.....? The PLO did nothing that any other oppressed people would do.... If one were to seriously analyze the activities of the French Resistance, how could some of their actions (bombing passenger trains for example, and it certainly wasn't just Nazis on board a lot of them..) be read...? How would any of us act under similar circumstances....? I think most of us would want our oppressors driven from our country "by whatever means necessary" to quote Malcolm X.... I repeat, I dont view the Palestinians as terrorists, I view them as victims of Zionist aggression and colonialism.... They didn't start this sh"t mate, they're reacting to 60 years of sh!t being dumped on them, end of story...
June 17, 200817 yr there isnt a happy ever after in the middle east. Certainly not while the Israelis enjoy their "immunity from the UN" status anyway...... -_- ...Oh, and the small matter of an unwanted American military presence.....
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