I thought 6 was the end of it all...

I think the producers are bringing out all these "$h!t sequels" so that they can stretch the actors contracts out to 6 which they were originally signed onto so that the producers dont breach the contract and pay some massive bill...

Really the 3rd shouldve been the end of it all... But after the 3rd the film it became more of a franchise than a film series what with comic books, films, games, toys coming out... As i said in the "Horror Films..." thread, Hollywood tend to care more about the money they bring in than the actual audience... As long as the massive companies see a huge spin off series or franchise coming, any writer off the street can make it in the business... Very few writers today actually make it in the business without spawning a whole franchise and sadly, films are easily bought off the original writers (John Carpinters' Halloween being one of them) and turned into unoriginal pieces of $h!te... (Halloween H2O anyone?) (Im a little bit drunk whilst writing this so ill check back when im a little bit more sober and make sure this makes sense :P)

I thought 6 was the end of it all...

I think the producers are bringing out all these "$h!t sequels" so that they can stretch the actors contracts out to 6 which they were originally signed onto so that the producers dont breach the contract and pay some massive bill...

Really the 3rd shouldve been the end of it all... But after the 3rd the film it became more of a franchise than a film series what with comic books, films, games, toys coming out... As i said in the "Horror Films..." thread, Hollywood tend to care more about the money they bring in than the actual audience... As long as the massive companies see a huge spin off series or franchise coming, any writer off the street can make it in the business... Very few writers today actually make it in the business without spawning a whole franchise and sadly, films are easily bought off the original writers (John Carpinters' Halloween being one of them) and turned into unoriginal pieces of $h!te... (Halloween H2O anyone?) (Im a little bit drunk whilst writing this so ill check back when im a little bit more sober and make sure this makes sense :P)

 

No worries Joao, it actually makes perfect sense.... Unless I'm feeling hungover after that bottle of wine... :lol:

 

I agree with what you say here tbh... But bear in mind that it aint just Hollywood that does this, look at Japanese Anime and the huge cross-media businesses that this generates... Something like "Akira", which is an absolutely astounding, dense, sophisticated work of Science Fiction, starts out as a huge, sprawling Manga comic, then becomes an Anime film which does kind of simplify a few of the concepts that Otomo had in his original work, then you have the toys, games, etc that spin off from it... A commercial aesthetic is created, but the work itself is still quite amazing, commercialism there does not seem to kill ideas or sparks of originality... Of course "Akira", the "Ghost in the Shell" franchise, "Death Note", etc are probably examples of the more sophisticated forms of Anime/Manga (bear in mind also that stuff like "Pokemon" and "Dragonball Z" exists...LOL), but the Japanese DO tend to prove that commerciality and great ideas can exist hand in hand, nothing mainstream Hollywood does can match up to what the mainstream Industry in Japan is capable of, there just seems to be more willingness to push the envelope a bit, but still be commercial at the same time...

No worries Joao, it actually makes perfect sense.... Unless I'm feeling hungover after that bottle of wine... :lol:

 

I agree with what you say here tbh... But bear in mind that it aint just Hollywood that does this, look at Japanese Anime and the huge cross-media businesses that this generates... Something like "Akira", which is an absolutely astounding, dense, sophisticated work of Science Fiction, starts out as a huge, sprawling Manga comic, then becomes an Anime film which does kind of simplify a few of the concepts that Otomo had in his original work, then you have the toys, games, etc that spin off from it... A commercial aesthetic is created, but the work itself is still quite amazing, commercialism there does not seem to kill ideas or sparks of originality... Of course "Akira", the "Ghost in the Shell" franchise, "Death Note", etc are probably examples of the more sophisticated forms of Anime/Manga (bear in mind also that stuff like "Pokemon" and "Dragonball Z" exists...LOL), but the Japanese DO tend to prove that commerciality and great ideas can exist hand in hand, nothing mainstream Hollywood does can match up to what the mainstream Industry in Japan is capable of, there just seems to be more willingness to push the envelope a bit, but still be commercial at the same time...

:lol: at the Dragonball comment, the anime itself was amazing and original at the time but it wasnt until the Americans got their hands on it that all the games etc came out. Damn the American economy :lol:

I watched Saw 4 the other day. I really enjoyed the first 2 but instalment 3 was disappointing. Saw 4 was better than the Saw 3 but its kinda getting very repetitive now. I dont know how much further they can go with all this.

I watched Saw 4 the other day. I really enjoyed the first 2 but instalment 3 was disappointing. Saw 4 was better than the Saw 3 but its kinda getting very repetitive now. I dont know how much further they can go with all this.

 

Frankly, I think they've just totally ruined it now... The freshness of the original film has given way to repetition, boredom and contempt as far as I'm concerned.... James Wan and Leigh Whannel are rather obviously having nothing to do with it creatively anymore, and it shows.... In the same way that pretty much every "Halloween" film utterly sucks after Carpenter's seminal original, the same thing has happened to "Saw"....