Posted July 2, 200817 yr Having reviewed the top 5 of every contest, I came to the following conclusion of what seems to constitute a successful BJSC song :o BJSC I 4½ female ½ male WINNER = Famous artist/obscure song Two famous artists (Britney, Nelly) One well-known song – Maneater (2nd) One mildly well-known song – And Then We Kiss (1st) One old song – Moonlight Shadow (4th) Two obscure/upcoming songs (3rd/5th) BJSC II 4 female 1 male WINNER = mildly well-known artist/upcoming song Two famous artists (Sophie Ellis-Bextor, The Verve) Two well-known songs – Bittersweet Symphony, Murder on the Dancefloor (3rd/5th) Three obscure/upcoming songs (1st/2nd/4th) BJSC III 4 female 1 male WINNER = mildly well-known artist/obscure song Two famous artists (Europe, Robyn) One well-known song – Final Countdown (2nd) Four obscure/upcoming songs (1st/3rd/4th/5th) BJSC IV 5 female WINNER = upcoming artist/upcoming song Three mildly well-known artists (Pipettes, Serebro, Carrie Underwood) Two mildly well-known songs (Pull Shapes, Before He Cheats) Three obscure/upcoming songs (1st, 3rd, 4th) BJSC V 3 female 2 male WINNER = famous act/obscure song Three well-known artists (TATU, Girls Aloud, Sugababes) Two famous songs (Je Ne Parle Pas Francais (I Can’t Speak French), Hole In The Head) Three obscure songs BJSC VI 5 female WINNER = mildly well-known artist/obscure song Two well-known artists (Lily Allen, Evanescence) One famous song (Bring Me To Life) One mildly well-known song Three obscure songs BJSC VII 4 female 1 male WINNER = upcoming artist/upcoming song Two mildly well-known artists (Dima, Maria) Three upcoming songs Two obscure songs ---- TOP 5 Female // 29½ Male // 5½ WINNING ARTISTS: Mildly well-known // 3 Upcoming // 2 Famous // 2 WINNING SONGS: Obscure // 4 Upcoming // 3 TOP 5 ARTISTS Obscure/Upcoming // 18 Well-known // 11 Mildly well-known // 6 TOP 5 SONGS Obscure/Upcoming // 24 Famous // 7 Mildly well-known // 4 You may or may not disagree with my definition of obscure, so I agree it may be a little subjective here :heehee: Anyway, from this, I can deduce that your typical BJSC winner will be a mildly well-known female (what a surprise :lol:) artist (someone who's had one hit in the UK, large success overseas or is well-known on BuzzJack) who is entering a song that is obscure (so probably wasn't released, or was released and flopped). However, seeing as many people will realistically be aiming for top 5, I can deduce that your typical top 5 artist will be female, obscure/upcoming and entering a song of the same category :funky: Anybody else think they know what a possible recipe for success in this contest is? :o
July 2, 200817 yr No obscure artists have won then, it's interesting that only 6 "mildly well-known" artists have finished in the top 5, yet half of those were winners. Edited July 2, 200817 yr by Adi_Gallia
July 2, 200817 yr Author Upcoming can translate to obscure, and the Dixie Chicks are fairly obscure...and yes, all of the winning songs so far have been in English :P
July 2, 200817 yr What about nationalities? I know most of the winners have been American, but I don't know about top 5 finishes.
July 2, 200817 yr well TBH in the first two editions i had two top 5's (5th places actually) with non international artists with non english songs! Ayumi Hamasaki (in japanese) and Karolina (in macedonian)! but since than the contest has changed :( :???: everybody are going for the more well know artists with english songs...
July 2, 200817 yr Author Unfortunately Boyan, you came 6th in the first contest - Frahliso got more 12s than you :P I'd actually go as far as saying that (discounting this contest) it was more common to use well-known artists in the earlier contests...
July 2, 200817 yr BJSC VII was excellent :D look, no well known songs in the top 5 :cheer: in a nutshell, send a semi-famous/upcoming American female with an upcoming/unknown song and you'll have a good chance of winning!
July 2, 200817 yr Unfortunately Boyan, you came 6th in the first contest - Frahliso got more 12s than you :P I'd actually go as far as saying that (discounting this contest) it was more common to use well-known artists in the earlier contests... did Sahlene receive more 12's than Jessica Garlick in ESC 2002? I'm sure she must have done, therefore by this ruling Jessica would have been 4th, not joint 3rd when I last hosted I didn't use the more 12's rule, I just did tied positions... but perhaps in BJSC8 I should use that rule, as everyone else since me has done :unsure:
July 2, 200817 yr Author What about nationalities? I know most of the winners have been American, but I don't know about top 5 finishes. Good question :o BJSC I American - 3 British - 1 Macedonian - 1 BJSC II British - 2 American - 1/2 Swedish - 1 Russian - 0/1 [Regina Spektor Russian, now naturalised citizen of USA] BJSC III Swedish - 2 American - 1 British - 1 Japanese - 1 BJSC IV American - 3 British - 1 Russian - 1 BJSC V British - 3 Russian - 1 Swedish - 1 BJSC VI British - 4 American - 1 BJSC VII American - 2/3 Norwegian - 1 Russian - 1 Hungarian - 0/1 [Linda Kiraly Hungarian, naturalised American] Sweden and Russia are the most successful non-English speaking countries ^_^ I think it's a tie between British and American artists, if not it's very close...
July 2, 200817 yr when I last hosted I didn't use the more 12's rule, I just did tied positions... but perhaps in BJSC8 I should use that rule, as everyone else since me has done :unsure: In the last contest I did it by who got points off more countries before doing most 12s. I prefer the most 12s rule, but apparently they check who got votes from most countries first in Eurovision.
July 2, 200817 yr BJSC VII was excellent :D look, no well known songs in the top 5 :cheer: in a nutshell, send a semi-famous/upcoming American female with an upcoming/unknown song and you'll have a good chance of winning! Well not any more, since everybody will be doing that now :P
July 2, 200817 yr Author did Sahlene receive more 12's than Jessica Garlick in ESC 2002? I'm sure she must have done, therefore by this ruling Jessica would have been 4th, not joint 3rd when I last hosted I didn't use the more 12's rule, I just did tied positions... but perhaps in BJSC8 I should use that rule, as everyone else since me has done :unsure: Jessica did unfortunately finish fourth :( I like to think of it as joint third :kink: For the first few contests it was more 12s, 10s etc., but as of BJSC VII we now use the more votes rule - on the basis that a song that is in more people's top tens is more popular than one with concentrated success.
July 2, 200817 yr BJSC VII was excellent :D look, no well known songs in the top 5 :cheer: in a nutshell, send a semi-famous/upcoming American female with an upcoming/unknown song and you'll have a good chance of winning! I just browze through youtube when I'm looking for songs to enter(while the previous contest is still going) and if I hear something I like I wait a few days until It grows on me(or not) and decide wheater to enter it in a NF or put it straight in. I don't look on Myspace very much so I probably won't find any up and coming artists.
July 2, 200817 yr BJSC VII was excellent :D look, no well known songs in the top 5 :cheer: in a nutshell, send a semi-famous/upcoming American female with an upcoming/unknown song and you'll have a good chance of winning! I'm not sure if I'll get the recipe for success soon. I just browze through youtube when I'm looking for songs to enter(while the previous contest is still going) and if I hear something I like I wait a few days until It grows on me(or not) and decide wheater to enter it in a NF or put it straight in. I don't look on Myspace very much so I probably won't find any up and coming artists. I'm getting a bit better at picking songs though......I think anyway. Edited July 2, 200817 yr by Sabrewulf238
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