July 20, 200816 yr She invented Angel Delight? :o And tbh I don't know a lot about Thatcher tbh, all I know is when I'm at uni the Yorkshire people detest her and any mention of the Tories, so I'm sure (as this thread proves) this news won't please as many people as it annoys :heehee:
July 20, 200816 yr the queen mum just had to drink gin all day and enjoy herself as did Diana, Maggie didn't have that luxury so of course royals are always going to be more popular Yeah, right... And while Maggie and her cronies were off selling arms and landmines to dodgy dictators, murdering teenage Argentinian conscripts and passing anti-Gay laws and coming up with frankly RIDICULOUS and meaningless AIDS (yeah, icebergs and big stone tablets... :lol: :lol: :lol: ) campaigns, Diana was out breaking down barriers and social taboos by actually being with AIDS sufferers and destroying people's preconceptions and prejudices, do NOT underestimate the impact that had.. Then she went out and spearheaded an anti-landmine campaign which p"ssed off the arms dealers no end.... Hmmm, I think if we actually weigh up who did the most good for people in the world, Diana beats the Atilla The Hen hands down..... As for the Queen Mum, well she was already pretty old by the time Thatch got in, so I reckon we can forgive her for slowing down a bit, she was a bloody PENSIONER after all.... -_- She did a hell of a lot more than just "drink gin" when she was younger you pillock, as one or two other posters have pointed out....
July 23, 200816 yr ccImZIos-PY 8 Out Of 10 Cats (From 3:15 onwards) Jimmy Carr's comment about the man-made lake was priceless. As for this nonsense that this old witch is going to be wasting more public money when she croaks - can't we just do her in now and have a party? A Shameless-style street party with streamers, bunting and jelly and ice cream? Like the Jubilee - only more fun? Drop the old bag off in the Welsh valleys unaided one afternoon - there'd be no trace of her by teatime and we'd have saved ourselves a helluva lot of dough. Also, if they lie her in state - who's organising the bus for us all to go along to cover her with phlegm? I'd even cough up the deposit - no pun intended. Honest :P
July 23, 200816 yr Jimmy Carr's comment about the man-made lake was priceless. As for this nonsense that this old witch is going to be wasting more public money when she croaks - can't we just do her in now and have a party? A Shameless-style street party with streamers, bunting and jelly and ice cream? Like the Jubilee - only more fun? Drop the old bag off in the Welsh valleys unaided one afternoon - there'd be no trace of her by teatime and we'd have saved ourselves a helluva lot of dough. Also, if they lie her in state - who's organising the bus for us all to go along to cover her with phlegm? I'd even cough up the deposit - no pun intended. Honest :P id use doggo.... better still whilst shes alive... i like the idea of a shameless style street party :lol:
July 23, 200816 yr This article from yesterday's Mail was hilarious - its pointing out the 'hateful rantings of lefties' (I believe the tw/\t who wrote it is referring to Guardian readers). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10...y-Thatcher.html Just page down to the comments from the Guardian readers - I agree with every one of them! Norma
July 23, 200816 yr :puke2: The Mail's a rancid, fascistic rag. I added a comment agreeing with the Guardian - can't see it being put online, can you? I think if people want to pay toawrd her funeral, fine.... the majority of England can cough up the readies, as only they voted her in. And only southern England at that (thanks, Basildon). To even think of asking the Scots, and moreso the Welsh, to pay, especially after the grotesque, disgusting and degrading way in whch she treated these 2 great countries - isn't it like asking the Jews to pay for a Hitler memorial?
July 23, 200816 yr I love this comment... "This is unbelievable - how would these people like it if someone wrote about their grandmother or mother in such terms? I think however it says more about the writer.... " Well if anyone from my family had done such dreadful things as Thatcher I'd join in! Edited July 23, 200816 yr by RabbitFurCoat
July 23, 200816 yr I love this comment... "This is unbelievable - how would these people like it if someone wrote about their grandmother or mother in such terms? I think however it says more about the writer.... " Well if anyone from my family had done such dreadful things as Thatcher I'd join in! absolutely... she wasnt a loveable old granny, she was a fascist , if she could shed have grown a little moustache under her nose (ala hitler)
July 24, 200816 yr I never was a maggie fan but since 1997 this country is in a worse state under Labour than its ever been.
July 24, 200816 yr I never was a maggie fan but since 1997 this country is in a worse state under Labour than its ever been. Well, I wouldn't be in favour of a state funeral for Tony Blair either.... Or Gordon Broon.... And you're forgetting one small factor, we haven't actually had a "Labour" govt as such, we've had "Nu Labor"....
July 24, 200816 yr absolutely... she wasnt a loveable old granny, she was a fascist Damn straight... and speaking for MY grannie.. She absolutely HATED Thatcher.... :lol: Referring to her as "that bloody b**ch" :lol: :lol:
July 24, 200816 yr :puke2: The Mail's a rancid, fascistic rag. I added a comment agreeing with the Guardian - can't see it being put online, can you? It certainly is a rancid, fascist rag... And what they totally fail to take into account is the fact that the chief reason for all this anti-Thatch vitriol is because of the plans to give her a State Funeral... She's a completely divisive PM in the way that Churchill was not.... Churchill's leadership held the country together, Thatcher tore it apart.... Yes, Churchill had his flaws, but he did NOT go to the awful extent of just completely destroying and decimating communities and the hopes and dreams of an entire generation of young people... To elevate Thatcher to the level of Churchill is an absolute disgrace and insult, because he would NEVER have done the things that she did....
July 24, 200816 yr I never was a maggie fan but since 1997 this country is in a worse state under Labour than its ever been. utter rubbish pete... did labour want to introduce clause.. thingy (forgets..lol) to limit the teachings about homosexuality? has our economy gone from boom to bust?.. ok its faultering now but for the last ten years its been very stable, with low inflation, low interest rates on mortgages, and sustained growth we DID NOT get this under thatchers 11 years.
July 24, 200816 yr has our economy gone from boom to bust?.. ok its faultering now but for the last ten years its been very stable, with low inflation, low interest rates on mortgages, and sustained growth we DID NOT get this under thatchers 11 years. Labour had the luxury of inheriting a strong economy from Major though whereas Maggie inherited a banana republic from Callaghan Also Maggie had a global recession under her watch, the boom bust thing wasn't as a result of her policies it was as a result of a global recession (well the bust was) so it would have happened under any PM, when America gets into recession so do we
July 24, 200816 yr It certainly is a rancid, fascist rag... And what they totally fail to take into account is the fact that the chief reason for all this anti-Thatch vitriol is because of the plans to give her a State Funeral... She's a completely divisive PM in the way that Churchill was not.... Churchill's leadership held the country together, Thatcher tore it apart.... Yes, Churchill had his flaws, but he did NOT go to the awful extent of just completely destroying and decimating communities and the hopes and dreams of an entire generation of young people... To elevate Thatcher to the level of Churchill is an absolute disgrace and insult, because he would NEVER have done the things that she did.... If Churchill was such a great PM aside from being a wartime leader why was he voted out of office ? Maggie never lost a single election
July 24, 200816 yr Labour had the luxury of inheriting a strong economy from Major though whereas Maggie inherited a banana republic from Callaghan Also Maggie had a global recession under her watch, the boom bust thing wasn't as a result of her policies it was as a result of a global recession (well the bust was) so it would have happened under any PM, when America gets into recession so do we nonsense... you cannot credit labours TEN YEARS of economic stability on majors government. it was ten stable years because of browns chancellorship.. pity it didnt transfer to premiership. the global recession was in the late 80's, at the end of her reign, so thaqt doesnt explain the rest of the mess her government created. thatchers 11 years were poor for householders and business, labours 10 years saw a stable economy and the lowest mortgage rates for 40 years... good for business, good for householders.
July 24, 200816 yr If Churchill was such a great PM aside from being a wartime leader why was he voted out of office ? Maggie never lost a single election Your ignorance at times is breathtaking. Basically, Churchill had no economic plans available to rebuild the economy. Churchill was the most inspiring orator at times of crisis, which is exactly what was required at our darkest hour in 1940. He was a great war leader, as he had been forecasting what Hitler & Nazi Germany would do since 1933, when nobody believed him and he was ridiculed for it. But after the end of a war in 1945, Labour & Clement Attlee deservedly won an election, as it reflected the voters' belief that the Labour Party were better able to rebuild the country following the war than the Conservatives. Churchill and the Conservatives are also generally considered to have run a poor campaign in comparison to Labour; especially as Churchill's statement that Attlee's programme would require a Gestapo-esque body to implement was considered to have been particularly crass. Equally, whilst voters respected and liked Churchill's wartime record, they were more distrustful of the Conservative Party's domestic and foreign policy record in the late thirties. Labour had also been given, during the war, the opportunity to display to the electorate their domestic competence in government under men such as Attlee, Herbert Morrison and Ernest Bevin at the Ministry of Labour. The Labour Party ran on promises to create full employment, a tax funded universal National Health Service, and a cradle-to-grave welfare state, with the campaign message 'Let us face the future.' In short after the end of a horrific 6 years of fighting it was a no brainer for the GBP, who wanted social reform and the much needed creation of the National Health Service. Still, another thing to remember about what a "marvellous" job that Attila The Hen did is that during her rule she gained £46.5 billion in oil reserves from the North Sea (No wonder the Scots hate her). Something that no Prime Minister has had before or since. Despite that, the economy still managed to go bust in the early 1990s thanks to the incompetent boom and bust policies of the Conservative Government, leading to a huge trade deficit, thanks to their now discredited policies, which Major's administration tried to correct, but the damage had been done thanks to the arrogance and greed of Thatcherism. Surely Thatcher's greatest/most criminal legacy is "Rip Off Britain" by allowing a few rich "fat cats" to buy Public Services and Utilities at a huge profit, only to eventually sell them on to foreiign ownership, which we are all paying for today.
July 24, 200816 yr it isnt rubbish, this country is in an awful state. thank god i'm getting out of Britain for good. Labour screw everything up whether they are "New" or not... even for the low incomes. utter rubbish pete... did labour want to introduce clause.. thingy (forgets..lol) to limit the teachings about homosexuality? has our economy gone from boom to bust?.. ok its faultering now but for the last ten years its been very stable, with low inflation, low interest rates on mortgages, and sustained growth we DID NOT get this under thatchers 11 years.
July 25, 200816 yr Your ignorance at times is breathtaking. Basically, Churchill had no economic plans available to rebuild the economy. Churchill was the most inspiring orator at times of crisis, which is exactly what was required at our darkest hour in 1940. He was a great war leader, as he had been forecasting what Hitler & Nazi Germany would do since 1933, when nobody believed him and he was ridiculed for it. But after the end of a war in 1945, Labour & Clement Attlee deservedly won an election, as it reflected the voters' belief that the Labour Party were better able to rebuild the country following the war than the Conservatives. Churchill and the Conservatives are also generally considered to have run a poor campaign in comparison to Labour; especially as Churchill's statement that Attlee's programme would require a Gestapo-esque body to implement was considered to have been particularly crass. Equally, whilst voters respected and liked Churchill's wartime record, they were more distrustful of the Conservative Party's domestic and foreign policy record in the late thirties. Labour had also been given, during the war, the opportunity to display to the electorate their domestic competence in government under men such as Attlee, Herbert Morrison and Ernest Bevin at the Ministry of Labour. The Labour Party ran on promises to create full employment, a tax funded universal National Health Service, and a cradle-to-grave welfare state, with the campaign message 'Let us face the future.' In short after the end of a horrific 6 years of fighting it was a no brainer for the GBP, who wanted social reform and the much needed creation of the National Health Service. Still, another thing to remember about what a "marvellous" job that Attila The Hen did is that during her rule she gained £46.5 billion in oil reserves from the North Sea (No wonder the Scots hate her). Something that no Prime Minister has had before or since. Despite that, the economy still managed to go bust in the early 1990s thanks to the incompetent boom and bust policies of the Conservative Government, leading to a huge trade deficit, thanks to their now discredited policies, which Major's administration tried to correct, but the damage had been done thanks to the arrogance and greed of Thatcherism. Surely Thatcher's greatest/most criminal legacy is "Rip Off Britain" by allowing a few rich "fat cats" to buy Public Services and Utilities at a huge profit, only to eventually sell them on to foreiign ownership, which we are all paying for today. 100% FULL TRUTH... Can't really add any more to this tbh, sums up perfectly what I would've replied to Craig.... Peace time is different to war... Thatcher's aggression against the people of this country showed that she was almost as much at "war" with the ordinary folks here as she was with the Argies.... :lol:
July 25, 200816 yr Labour screw everything up whether they are "New" or not... even for the low incomes. Oh yeah Pete, Atlee and Bevin really screwed things up for us with the NHS and Welfare State didn't they.....? Harold Wilson, yeah, he really "screwed up" too..... At least he didn't drag British troops into fukkin' Vietnam like the ruddy Yanks wanted him to... UNLIKE a certain Mr B-Liar who was only too happy to be up America's arse and dragged us into the modern day equivalent of 'Nam..... <_<
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