Erm I'm not a walking talking Emo definition book :lol:

But yeh music classed as emo has all the emotional, over the top lyrics and whacky long songtitles - a few examples being:

 

Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her clothes off

I slept with someone in Fall Out Boy and all I Got was this stupid song written about me

 

:rofl:

Well at least I got the Emotional part correct :lol:

 

Amazing lyrics :drama:

 

“I don't think I'm that good-looking and I think that's why I've got this far -- everyone took pity on me.”

 

It's a sham, it's phony posturing and it's about time music fans forced these mediocre bands to stop the charade. Heartbreak and failed relationships in pop music is nothing new."

 

 

Oh but Gerard. :drama:

I would rather listen to a heartwrenching emo song about a broken relationship than something made by a manufactured pop act. I mean the people NEED songs that describe how they're really feeling and that's what emo music imo does. That's why I like it.

 

Pop music is just made with non offensive lyrics and nice beautiful people. :smoke:

I don't mind meaningfull, heartbreaking lyrics but as soon they start to scream and shout the lyrics it's

too much for me :(

 

Some pop songs are too cheeky ofcourse but there are lots of them with great lyrics aswell.

 

Everything changes but you

We're a thousand miles apart

But you know I love you

Everything changes but you

You know everyhting single day

I'll be thinking about you

 

Take That for an example :lol:

Take That repulse me :smoke:

I can think of worse things that repulse me :smoke:

Don't hate me for my emo ways

 

Two of the most popular social networking sites on the internet, MySpace and Facebook, have hundreds of groups devoted to emo hatred and ridicule, with names such as "Anti-Emo Army", "Emo kids should be sold as slaves", "Shakespeare hates your emo poems" and "I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself". Even as more and more young teenagers begin to dress emo, the subculture remains the butt of a joke.

 

While I do not identify as such, many people on the street would take one look at me and conclude that I have a full-blown case of emo. Yes, I have long, black hair and wear tight jeans (or "skinnies"), tight T-shirts featuring my favourite bands and Converse All-Star shoes. It's a bit hot today, so you've caught me without my scarf, tight sweater and fingerless gloves.

 

For those who require more verification, a quick scroll through my iPod reveals the emo touchstones Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance and Death Cab for Cutie.

 

According to popular opinion, I am the very definition of the emo. I wear the right clothes, listen to the right music and my occasional shyness may lead you to believe that I act the right way too. However, it is the other assumptions that many people make that are of more concern. I must be depressed. I must hate my life. I must hate anyone who isn't like me. I must self-mutilate. These are all wrong.

 

The emo subculture gained public attention in April after two Melbourne teenagers, Jodie Gater and Stephanie Gestier, committed suicide. In the following days and weeks, the media were flooded with sensationalised reports concerning the subculture. Current affairs programs painted a picture that was indeed black: a youth subculture with a basis in bleak music, morbid fashion choices and depression.

 

What is criticised as emo and what is actually emo are two very different things. Emo originated from the American punk and hardcore music scene of the late 1980s. It emphasised introspective lyrics and an introspective style, a huge change from the music of the time. However, emo then is very different to emo now. I would even go so far as to say it has moved beyond a mere subculture to become a fashion trend, a trendy way to fill the role of disgruntled teenager.

 

Emos make an easy target. Society in general attaches a huge negative stigma to people identified as being emo. Consequently, it is no surprise that emos feel alone, misunderstood and disconnected from society.

 

Emo is just the latest in a cycle of subcultures that have borne the brunt of public scrutiny over the generations, scrutiny that can come in the form of physical abuse, taunts, insults and threats. When hippie culture emerged in the 1960s urging free love, the world shook at the changes it represented.

 

When the Ramones in America and the Sex Pistols in Britain gave birth to punk, it was blamed for inciting anarchy. When Nirvana gave youth a voice in the early 1990s, those who watched it unfold were scared of the future that Generation X would create. Looking back, you would think that society would have become more understanding.

 

The people who finally felt alive when they heard this music in the past are now making judgments about emo, forgetting that they were once misunderstood and mistreated. Now that emo music is dominating the soundtrack of the lives of younger teenagers who feel increasingly disconnected from and uncared-for by the community, the family unit and society at large, those who have forgotten what it was like are doing the same thing.

 

Emo is different and humanity has a bad record of accepting difference. The discrimination and stereotyping that are taking place are evidence that this has not changed, even in the 21st century. This lack of acceptance stems from a lack of understanding.

 

Emo kids may appear to be spoilt brats who find fault in everything. But I ask you to think about how you see emos and how you treat emos, and ask yourself: is it really a good idea to treat someone you believe is depressed and alone as the butt of a cruel joke?

 

Mitchell Meek is a communications student at the University of Newcastle.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/dont-ha...1090936576.html

Edited October 1, 200717 yr by *Nicky*

I'm definitely not EMO after reading all of this but I adore MCR -_-

Quite a contradiction hmm?

MCR claim they're not emo but that's all they're identified with. :lol:

 

TBH I think people are far too harsh on emos - every group has its good and bad sides - I mean look at chavs. The stereotype for them is a lazy skank on benefits with 4 kids in a council house that goes out stabbing every Tom, Dick + Harry. Least emos only stab themselves. :smoke:

 

I mean I consider myself EMO without the dress sense - I like the music and I like the ideals like writing the poetry and expressing your feelings etc. But I know it is also quite dangerous. My cousin who is 15 is very ill atm due to the emo fad.

Yes like moi :cry:

Yes like moi :cry:

 

:o

 

That's not what I'm thinking!! You know I adore you :cry:

 

Actually I was referring to C*line :smoke:

 

Well after reading this article I think I understand now what EMO is all about.

 

Never really knew what it meant before. Always dangerous when people identify themselves with a group just because

they feel they don't fit in ? :huh:

 

I like the music and the lyrics because it's different and not cheesy like alot of lyrics these days. Like you said Grami, every

group has it good and bad sides. There have always been sub cultures like that and unfortunelaty some people take it too

far.

 

I suppose with MCR becoming more popular and winning awards, it will put the die hard EMO people off to like them ?

It's probably not cool anymore ^_^

Oh well everyone thought the sun shone out of MCR's arse back in 2005 when they released 'Three Cheers' and were struggling everyone on the internet thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. Soon as they have a #1 single and become mainstream seems everybody hates them. It happens a lot with bands that aren't as successful early on in their career - Green Day are another example. The hardcore fans that have been with them since Day 1 get annoyed that the band have 'sold out' or whatever.

 

I however have always supported MCR <3

Caroline?

 

What did she ever do to you? :(

 

BTW liefie tell me if you can see the grey topic pinned at the top of this forum?

Yeah it's just silly bands aren't allowed to be popular. When you write music and lyrics it's only naturel you

want the world to hear them. I'm very happy MCR isn't struggling anymore. I didn't know them in the beginning but i'm

very happy I get to know them because of a certain person :lol:

She's giving me the shivers in a bad bad way :(

 

And yessss !! The grey area is visible for me :o How exiting!

 

Q&A | Emo for the uninitiated

By Michael Heaton

 

Newhouse News Service

 

SHAKER HEIGHTS, Ohio — Leslie Simon, 28, is the co-author (with Trevor Kelley) of the book "Everybody Hurts: An Essential Guide to Emo Culture." Simon, of Shaker Heights, is also the managing editor of Cleveland-based Alternative Press magazine.

 

For the uninitiated, emo is a style of popular music with roots in punk rock that listeners deem "emotional." Bands such as Dashboard Confessional and My Chemical Romance are considered the most popular emo bands. Simon recently answered a few questions.

 

Q: What band would you say was emo before there was emo?

 

A: I'd have to say the Smiths and the Cure. At the time they were originally popular, they attracted a lot of Goths and kids into mope-rock, but now frontmen like Morrissey and Robert Smith are emo icons. Who knew?

 

Q: Has the definition of emo changed or evolved since its inception?

 

A: Totally. What once was described as a sentimental musical genre known for its roots in late-1980s post-hard-core music has turned into something so much bigger, a bona fide lifestyle with all the necessary accouterments.

 

Q: What's the difference between emo and Goth?

 

A: A black cape, white face powder and a tube of eyeliner.

 

Q: Are emo fans depressed?

 

A: Probably a little, but I would be, too, if someone was constantly associating my lifestyle with suicide and cutting. I've been forwarded so many news reports from places like Cribdeath, Iowa, about how emo is brainwashing today's youth with images of blood, vampires and (My Chemical Romance frontman) Gerard Way. It's all hogwash. If parents are worried about what their kids are getting into, here's a bright idea: Ask them about it.

 

Q: What's an example of an emo television show?

 

A: "Degrassi: The Next Generation." Hands down.

 

 

 

Q: Can you give us an example of emo clothing?

 

A: A typical emo outfit would include a pair of skinny (or pegged) jeans topped off by a band T-shirt you purchased from a really sunburned and cranky girl or guy selling said band's merch at this summer's Vans Warped Tour. No matter the weather, throw on an American Apparel hoodie and pick up a tote bag emblazoned with pins and patches. Oh, and don't forget to slide into a pair of Vans checkered Old Skool slip-ons or a pair of Chuck Taylor high-tops with black shoelaces.

 

Q: Is there any cure for feeling emo?

 

A: Emo isn't a feeling; it's a way of life. That's like asking if there's any cure for being tall. It's just a part of who you are.

 

Q: Is emo a phase on the road to adulthood?

 

A: I don't think you ever stop being emo. Sure, you might trade in constantly chomping down at Chipotle for casing the aisles at Whole Foods and crowd-surfing at Hellogoodbye concerts or carefully bobbing your head to Sufjan Stevens albums, but you're still the same person on the inside — and that person still relishes a good cry while watching "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."

 

Q: Where does the book title come from?

 

A: It's the name of a torturously emotional R.E.M. song. Michael Stipe and company don't really have huge ties to the emo scene, per se, but R.E.M. has been a huge influence to scene-approved musicians like Bright Eyes, so it definitely made sense to make the connection. Besides, the phrase "everybody hurts" is so apropos to describe a lifestyle so strongly rooted in all things emotional.

 

Q: Is emo in the eye of the beholder?

 

A: No way. You're born — not made — emo. Trust me.

 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/livi...moauthor01.html

 

 

:lol: I really don't see why people have to be so uptight and always complain about these things?

And I would let myself be brainwashed by Gerard anyday :smoke:

Q&A | Emo for the uninitiated

By Michael Heaton

 

Newhouse News Service

 

SHAKER HEIGHTS, Ohio — Leslie Simon, 28, is the co-author (with Trevor Kelley) of the book "Everybody Hurts: An Essential Guide to Emo Culture." Simon, of Shaker Heights, is also the managing editor of Cleveland-based Alternative Press magazine.

 

For the uninitiated, emo is a style of popular music with roots in punk rock that listeners deem "emotional." Bands such as Dashboard Confessional and My Chemical Romance are considered the most popular emo bands. Simon recently answered a few questions.

 

Q: What band would you say was emo before there was emo?

 

A: I'd have to say the Smiths and the Cure. At the time they were originally popular, they attracted a lot of Goths and kids into mope-rock, but now frontmen like Morrissey and Robert Smith are emo icons. Who knew?

 

Q: Has the definition of emo changed or evolved since its inception?

 

A: Totally. What once was described as a sentimental musical genre known for its roots in late-1980s post-hard-core music has turned into something so much bigger, a bona fide lifestyle with all the necessary accouterments.

 

Q: What's the difference between emo and Goth?

 

A: A black cape, white face powder and a tube of eyeliner.

 

Q: Are emo fans depressed?

 

A: Probably a little, but I would be, too, if someone was constantly associating my lifestyle with suicide and cutting. I've been forwarded so many news reports from places like Cribdeath, Iowa, about how emo is brainwashing today's youth with images of blood, vampires and (My Chemical Romance frontman) Gerard Way. It's all hogwash. If parents are worried about what their kids are getting into, here's a bright idea: Ask them about it.

 

Q: What's an example of an emo television show?

 

A: "Degrassi: The Next Generation." Hands down.

Q: Can you give us an example of emo clothing?

 

A: A typical emo outfit would include a pair of skinny (or pegged) jeans topped off by a band T-shirt you purchased from a really sunburned and cranky girl or guy selling said band's merch at this summer's Vans Warped Tour. No matter the weather, throw on an American Apparel hoodie and pick up a tote bag emblazoned with pins and patches. Oh, and don't forget to slide into a pair of Vans checkered Old Skool slip-ons or a pair of Chuck Taylor high-tops with black shoelaces.

 

Q: Is there any cure for feeling emo?

 

A: Emo isn't a feeling; it's a way of life. That's like asking if there's any cure for being tall. It's just a part of who you are.

 

Q: Is emo a phase on the road to adulthood?

 

A: I don't think you ever stop being emo. Sure, you might trade in constantly chomping down at Chipotle for casing the aisles at Whole Foods and crowd-surfing at Hellogoodbye concerts or carefully bobbing your head to Sufjan Stevens albums, but you're still the same person on the inside — and that person still relishes a good cry while watching "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."

 

Q: Where does the book title come from?

 

A: It's the name of a torturously emotional R.E.M. song. Michael Stipe and company don't really have huge ties to the emo scene, per se, but R.E.M. has been a huge influence to scene-approved musicians like Bright Eyes, so it definitely made sense to make the connection. Besides, the phrase "everybody hurts" is so apropos to describe a lifestyle so strongly rooted in all things emotional.

 

Q: Is emo in the eye of the beholder?

 

A: No way. You're born — not made — emo. Trust me.

 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/livi...moauthor01.html

 

That is one of the funniest things I've read all day, especially that last part. :rofl: Some people really need to grow up and realise one thing, that 'emo' isn't some sort of diesease. :lol: People dress strange, OH wow they must be like, so depressed and like cut themselves in all sorts of places. :drama:

My Chemical Romance Guitarist Gets Inked by Kat Von D

 

Frank Iero, popularly known as the rhythm guitarist of the alternative rock band My Chemical Romance, was recently tattooed by L.A. Ink star and portrait expert, Kat Von D. In the episode entitled “Kat's Gnarly Day” which aired last Tuesday, the 25-year-old musician from Belleville, New Jersey acquired his latest skin art that features the image of someone very dear to him.

 

“I am getting a tattoo of my grandfather, his name is also Frank and he plays drums, he wanted me to become a drummer since I was born,” Iero said during the L.A. Ink episode. “I found this picture of my grandfather when he was young…I think about 30-years old and he's 85 so he's still plays like every weekend so that's he's favorite thing to do and that s my greatest memory of him…his playing so I got this really handsome picture of him playing the drums and I sent a picture to Kat she was like ‘Yeah we can definitely do that.'”

 

Above Iero's new art which was inked on his upper arm is the phrase “My family, my hero” in Italian.

Although Iero has had several body arts in the past, he admits to the pain he experiences every time he goes through the process of tattooing. Nevertheless, he is pleased with the outcome that now serves as a tribute to his grandpa.

 

“I laughed a lot when it hurts. I think I laughed a whole lot when my chest got done and anything on the inside of my arms hurt because I swell on the inside of my arms,” he said.

 

“I think a lot of musicians have just stuff that doesn't make any sense but for me it was about the places that I've been and seen and the short time I've been alive its been crazy and…it's a scrap book of my life…and that's really the best way to remember everything and… it's there for the world to see,” he added.

 

Frank Iero is just one of the many musicians lined up to guest star on L.A. Ink. As reported previously, artists from Slayer, Foo Fighters, and Deftones are also expected to appear on the upcoming episodes.

 

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Image/frank.jpg

 

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/la-ink/my-...rist-11803.aspx