Lots of artists can fit into Prog Rock, were there any that you liked/hated, or did it pass you by as a 70's era to be forgotten about.

i never understood it... it just seemed like a complete jumble of notes in songs with no or little structure. probably made sense if you were stoned when you were listening to it! :lol:

 

i must be the only person of my generation who thinks 'dark side of the moon ' is utter bollox.. :lol:

I do have Dark Side but then I like Floyd. I also have a couple of Yes albums from the early 70s which are OK but genrally it leaves me rather cold. Much better to listen to Krautrock.

I like progressive rock. I'm not the maniac of this genre tho. Some of my favourite bands are progrock.

Pink Floyd, Marillion (with Fish), Camel, Rush, King Crimson, Porcupine tree (this band is truly great).

And I like a lot of bands which are prog rock related like Tool, Opeth, Dead Can Dance, Riverside...

 

honestly, I don't understand why so many people hate this genre and simultaneously claim to like Pink Floyd. It's like some kind of Schizophrenia :blink:

 

Of course this kind of music require much more involvement from the listener and sometimes you have to listen to the same song several times to fully appreciate it.

I'm also aware that in England this kind of music is very uncool at the moment, but I don't give a s****.

 

And it's definitely not some prehistoric genre from 70's. there is a lot of bands now but they are underground, not in mainstream world. And progressive doesn't mean "complicated" (well maybe a little bit too ;-)) but rather evolving, prog bands nowadays tend to derive influences from other genres.

 

In fact I like this kind of music more than some indie bands which know only four chords and 4/4 rhythmic meter ;-)

 

Now, shoot me, I don't care ;-)

Edited August 23, 200816 yr by Moonloop

These are couple of Porcupine Tree's songs. I just want to show that this genre isn't so rigid as some of you may think.

These also aren't "the best songs", they have so many good songs that it would be difficult for me to choose even the best ten ;-).

 

ok. Here is a catchy, not complicated one. Open Car

 

 

Here is just a beautiful song :-) :wub: Trains

 

 

Here is a little bit longer and maybe more complicated. Start of Something Beautiful.

 

 

And here is something older from the 90's to show you how band can be creative and evolve with time. If you like Pink Floyd I would be surprised if you don't like this one. Waiting

 

and this is almost pop music ;-) Piano Lessons

 

Hate Song (antidote to all love songs ;-)) :wub:

 

I LOVE this diversity. They play what they want, not what they should to be cool ;-)

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Most people hate prog as it's basically full of fretw*n**ry and two many notes while Floyd doesn't seem to be too full of this muso bs. King Crimson are a prime example of this.

Nah, I think that most people hate prog rock because Q magazine and NME tell peole that this music is uncool ;-)

 

You know there is zillion prog rock bands and they are very different. It's pretty lame to hate the whole genre knowing only two or three bands.

 

And not all King Crimson songs are so complicated. For example Epitaph

 

 

 

 

And I have a question. Do you find classical music full of c**p and w*n**ry?

Edited August 23, 200816 yr by Moonloop

And here I don't hear and see any fret w*n**ry, just beautiful solo with beautiful melody(something that bands nowadys tend to forget about imo).

Camel stationary traveller

Camel - Harbour of Tears

where's the w*n**ry , heh?

 

Edited August 23, 200816 yr by Moonloop

Nah, I think that most people hate prog rock because Q magazine and NME tell peole that this music is uncool ;-)

 

when i got the nme in the 70's they were all for prog rock, pre punk they sneered at 'chart music'.

 

i ignored them :lol: i likes what i likes... simple as that.

when i got the nme in the 70's they were all for prog rock, pre punk they sneered at 'chart music'.

 

That is true! The Melody Maker was a little more partial to chart music (but not much). I went off NME when they continued to slag off ELO! I must admit though, I've started reading it again lately ... it provides a laugh now and it doesn't take itself as seriously as when it was a broadsheet.

 

Norma

 

Most people hate prog as it's basically full of fretw*n**ry and two many notes while Floyd doesn't seem to be too full of this muso bs. King Crimson are a prime example of this.

 

Pink Floyd never forgot to actually write a tune, no matter how way-out they actually got, they also understood that an audience would have to be out there listening as well... I liked Hawkwind as well...

 

The likes of Yes, ELP and King Crimson were just masturbating tbh, utter w/ank for the most part, a jumble as Rob said... I wont deny that Prog bands were trying to experiment and put across new ideas, but for the most part they just seemed to forget about their audience actually having to listen to it....

 

The contemporary "Prog" bands today such as Tool, Anathema, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, The Gathering (and I suppose you could argue the likes of Radiohead and Muse as well...), etc have, well, progressed (LOL) way beyond most of these original bands, the excellent musicianship skills and willingness to explore their music and sound instead of just sticking to a very rigid "pop" dynamic is certainly present, but these guys never forget about the audience, they manage to pull it back just before it goes over the edge completely into total w/ankfest...

I'm a sucker for a track with a melody. The most indulgent progressive music does not possess that so I cannot stand it.

 

But when the likes of Yes tried to write songs with a discernible melody like Wondrous Stories & Going For The One then they were bearable.

I'm a sucker for a track with a melody. The most indulgent progressive music does not possess that so I cannot stand it.

 

But when the likes of Yes tried to write songs with a discernible melody like Wondrous Stories & Going For The One then they were bearable.

 

Seriously I'm going to post lots of songs that are full of beutiful melodies.

And btw I don't like Yes :puke2: ;)

Anyone who wants to write that all prog music is utter w*n**ry, please listen to these songs first.

This is contemporary music, melancholic but beautiful :wub:

 

Porcupine Tree - A Smart Kid

 

Porcupine Tree -Lazarus

 

Opeth - In My Time Of Need

 

Opeth - Hope Leaves

 

Riverside - In two Minds

 

Riverside - Conceiving you

 

The Gathering - Marooned

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Can someone explain to me what elements make up a 'prog rock' or 'progressive rock' song? I've always been intrigued.

 

Norma

Can someone explain to me what elements make up a 'prog rock' or 'progressive rock' song? I've always been intrigued.

 

Norma

 

I really would like to but my English is crappy :(

 

but to be honest I don't see something like a prog song because If the band is really progressive they can put on the album almost pop songs and on the same album it can be also a metal song too ;) Progressive bands are influenced by folk music, jazz, hard rock, prog rock, pop, electronica ...... They just play what they like. There are no boundaries for them really (because they have excellent musicianship skills) .

It's a shame that mainstream media ignore these kind of bands nowadays. :(

 

but of course if the song is 15 minutes long and it is full of complicated elements, it's defo prog ;-)

 

I think that there are two definition of this genre (1. complicated, 2. evolving). First concerns the bands from the 70's like Pink Floyd, King Crimson and so on..

but contemporary progressive rock music is slightly different to the 70's prog.

I really would like to but my English is crappy :(

 

but to be honest I don't see something like a prog song because If the band is really progressive they can put on the album almost pop songs and on the same album it can be also a metal song too ;) Progressive bands are influenced by folk music, jazz, hard rock, prog rock, pop, electronica ...... They just play what they like. There are no boundaries for them really (because they have excellent musicianship skills) .

It's a shame that mainstream media ignore these kind of bands nowadays. :(

 

but of course if the song is 15 minutes long and it is full of complicated elements, it's defo prog ;-)

 

I think that there are two definition of this genre (1. complicated, 2. evolving). First concerns the bands from the 70's like Pink Floyd, King Crimson and so on..

but contemporary progressive rock music is slightly different to the 70's prog.

 

In that case then ... the most 'prog rock' album ever ... just has to be Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells! For a long time I would have thought it was DSOTM by Pink Floyd but no! MO has the edge! And Oldfield even does it without words!

 

Norma

Could anyone tell me what is wrong with this song? Because for me it is perfect and has one of the most beautiful melodies I've heard.

 

Marillion - Lavender :wub:

 

Can someone explain to me what elements make up a 'prog rock' or 'progressive rock' song? I've always been intrigued.

 

Norma

 

just thought about it yesterday.

It's not that all prog songs arle like that but often there is a guitar solo (sometimes very tasty ;-)), or keys solo ect., dynamic in the song is very welcome, and I think that this kind of bands rather aren't inpired by punk rock, so don't count on four chords songs with the 4/4 rhythmic meter (rather 6/8 , 5/8 ect.)

 

Quite into some of the modern stuff like, say, Polar Bear or maybe even Zombie Zombie but not into the old stuff as a general rule...no further than select Floyd and some Harmonia probably.

 

I'd echo the shout for krautrock though!