McCain & Palin = New wrapping, shame shyt!

I don't want to be stereotypical, but you do have to worry about a large portion of the American population when you see the Republicans' poll ratings (although Obama appears to be back in the lead now). Even ignoring their vile views, the Republican ticket consists of a 72-year-old with a history of cancer scares and who appears to be in the early stages of dementia, with a woman who was the mayor of a tiny Alaskan town two years ago and who had never been outside of the States until last year as his stand-in. It's pure insanity.

 

THANK YOU.

 

Everyone is saying they are scared Obama wn't do a great job...but really he is ALOT more promising then McCain and Palin.

Sarah Palin:

 

- avocated that creationism should be taught in schools instead of the Evolution theory.

- has approved oil exploration in protected environmental areas in Alaska (she called one of the oleoducts built there "a God's gift").

- is against abortion even in case of rape.

 

 

Sarah Palin:

 

- avocated that creationism should be taught in schools instead of the Evolution theory.

- has approved oil exploration in protected environmental areas in Alaska (she called one of the oleoducts built there "a God's gift").

- is against abortion even in case of rape.

:manson:

 

THAT IS ALL

Even a BIGGER manson for this one! :manson:

 

Sarah Palin:

 

- avocated that creationism should be taught in schools instead of the Evolution theory.

- has approved oil exploration in protected environmental areas in Alaska (she called one of the oleoducts built there "a God's gift").

- is against abortion even in case of rape.

 

That is why country leaders shouldn't be religious. They come out with crap like that. ^

 

It doesn't matter if a politician is religious...religion isn't a bad thing. But when you let it overpower you and your political decisions then you should get the f*** out. She's ridiculous.

 

Seriously, she makes Bush look acceptable.

It doesn't matter if a politician is religious...religion isn't a bad thing. But when you let it overpower you and your political decisions then you should get the f*** out. She's ridiculous.

 

Seriously, she makes Bush look acceptable.

If a politition uses religion as a sort of 'guide', i.e. Respect and treat all their citizens fairly, then I have no problem with that. But to let it go to your head and and ask to teach Religious Theories over Science Theories, it's bull. -_-

sarah is nice but watch out if this is a continuation of bush legacy then we are in deep $h!t.. war expenses are going to make us all in trouble.

Going a bit light hearted for a minute.......

 

Am I the only think who thinks Sarah Palin looks like what Anastacia would look like now if she had not dyed her hair, had laser surgery, plastic surgery, etc...

Sarah Palin:

 

- avocated that creationism should be taught in schools instead of the Evolution theory.

- has approved oil exploration in protected environmental areas in Alaska (she called one of the oleoducts built there "a God's gift").

- is against abortion even in case of rape.

The first is NOT true. From Factcheck (one of the only 100% reliable sources for this election): "Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum.""

The other two are both true though.

Anyway, Obama is now surging ahead in the polls after a terrible couple of weeks for McCain... he's been making gaffes left, right and centre, and their refusal to let the media talk to Palin is confiriming for many the fact she is so very out of her depth.

I hope it continues :D

Just because I don't live in America doesn't mean i'm not allowed to have an opinion on the elction,

 

err...I think you'll find Tyler said exactly the same thing...

 

what's so wrong about prefering the Republican candidate? You implied that I didn't know what the candidates stood for, which I obviously do, otherwise I wouldn't have come to a rational conclusion.

 

 

ah....interesting... so homophobia is rife in Japan, then? After all, both McCain AND Palin are rampantly homophobic, so, after reading and digesting their manifestos, you think this is a-ok, do you? After all, I'm sure Hitler had some decent policies.... but he was pretty anti-gay and anti-Semite, wasn't he? Would you have overrided these 2 glitches if you agreed with some of his other policies and supported him, too?

 

Your country's abysmal and disgraceful record on animal rights is well documented worldwide, so I wouldn't expect you to even consider her appalling views on hunting as anything but the norm....

 

After all, both McCain AND Palin are rampantly homophobic

That's not fair. It's hyperbole like this that alienates people from the left. On past form, McCain has never given evidence of being explicitly homophobic to my knowledge, and there is no evidence that Palin is either (yet).

 

It is, however, true that Palin and McCain do not support civil unions and other liberties for same-sex couples (whereas it seems Obama genuinely does) - a ridiculously outdated stance in 2008. It is exaggerating to describe that as rampant homophobia, though.

Edited September 25, 200816 yr by Danny

McCain not rampantly homophobic? Are you sure? :o

 

Here's a few of his "opinions" on gay issues....

 

Employment Discrimination::

John McCain does not support a federal non-discrimination law that would outlaw job discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

 

Hate Crimes:

John McCain did not support the Local Law Enforcement Act of 2005.

 

Same-Sex Marriage:

John McCain does not support same-sex marriage. From his website, " The family represents the foundation of Western Civilization and civil society and John McCain believes the institution of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. It is only this definition that sufficiently recognizes the vital and unique role played by mothers and fathers in the raising of children, and the role of the family in shaping, stabilizing, and strengthening communities and our nation."

 

Gay and Lesbian Adoption:

John McCain's has stated that is is against gay and lesbian couples adopting children. See quote at bottom of page for more information.

 

Don't Ask, Don't Tell:

John McCain does not support gays and lesbians serving in the military. According to Earth Times in an April 16 letter to Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), McCain says "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" "Unambiguously maintains that open homosexuality within the military services presents an intolerable risk to morale, cohesion and discipline."

 

More on John McCain and GLBT Issues:

Regarding the Federal Marriage Amendment, John McCain said, "The constitutional amendment we're debating today strikes me as antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans."

John McCain said he supported an Amendment to Arizona's Constitution that would ban gay marriages and deny government benefits to unmarried couples.

 

Gay Adoption:

In an interview with George Stephanapolous in July 2008, Stephanapolous asked John McCain,"What is your position on gay adoption? You told the New York Times you were against it, even in cases where the children couldn't find another home. But then your staff backtracked a bit. What is your position?"

McCain responded, "My position is, it's not the reason why I'm running for president of the United States. And I think that two parent families are best for America."

 

Stephanapolous asked, "Well, what do you mean by that, it's not the reason you're running for President of the United States?"

 

McCain replied, "Because I think -- well, I think that it's -- it is important for us to emphasize family values. But I think it's very important that we understand that we have other challenges, too. I'm running for president of the United States, because I want to help with family values. And I think that family values are important, when we have two parent -- families that are of parents that are the traditional family."

 

Stephanapolous: "But there are several hundred thousand children in the country who don't have a home. And if a gay couple wants to adopt them, what's wrong with that?"

 

McCain: "I am for the values that two parent families, the traditional family represents."

 

Stephanapolous: "So, you're against gay adoption."

 

McCain: "I am for the values and principles that two parent families represent. And I also do point out that many of these decisions are made by the states, as we all know. And I will do everything I can to encourage adoption, to encourage all of the things that keeps families together, including educational opportunities, including a better economy, job creation. And I'm running for president, because I want to help families in America. And one of my positions is that I believe that family values and family traditions are preserved."

 

Sources: National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Earth Times, On the issues, JohnMcCain.com, Arizona RepublicHuffington Post.

 

 

ummm..... sounds pretty homophobic to me, don't you think? If you replaced the word "gay" with the word "black" in any of the above statements - wouldn't you think the guy was rampantly racist? Of course you would.... :rolleyes:

 

Now for Sarah Palin...

 

Sarah Palin on Gay Marriage:

Sarah Palin is opposed to gay marriage. Alaska was one of the first states to pass a "Defense of Marriage" law, banning marriage between same-sex partners in 1988 and Palin supported it. Her campaign website for Governor in 2007 stated: I am pro-life and I believe that marriage should only be between and man and a woman.

 

Where does Sarah Palin Stand on GLBT Issues?:

"America may not know much about Sarah Palin, but based on what our community has seen of her, we know enough," said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese. "Sarah Palin not only supported the 1998 Alaska constitutional amendment banning marriage equality but, in her less than two years as Governor, even expressed the extreme position of supporting stripping away domestic partner benefits for state workers. When you can’t even support giving our community the rights to health insurance and pension benefits, it’s a frightening window into where she stands on equality."

 

Does Sarah Palin Support Same-Sex Partner Benefits?:

Even though, as governor, Sarah Palin signed into law a state supreme court-ordered measure to grant same-sex partner benefits in 2006, she publicly stated that she disagreed with the court ruling. She said,"So we may disagree with the foundation there, the rationale behind the ruling, but our responsibility is to proceed forward with the law and abide by the constitution."

 

Sarah Palin Wanted Gay Books Banned from the Library:

According to an article in The New York Times, Sarah Palin tried to have the book Daddy's Roommate removed from the library shelves. Daddy's Roommate is a book that helps children understand homosexuality.

 

Palin's Church Wants to Convert Gays:

Sarah Palin belongs to the Wasilla Bible Church, which is supporting a conference called "Love Won Out" in Anchorage, about 30 miles from Wasilla. "You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality," says an insert in the church bulletin, where Palin has prayed for about six years.

 

Sources: CBS.com, gay.com, The Examiner, HRC, Huffington Post.

 

Again, she doesn't sound particularly embracing to the gay cause either, wouldn't you say?

 

Like I said, McCain and Palin are against civil unions and other liberties for gay couples, stances I am passionately against. However, "rampant homophobia" implies they are lunatics who go around saying homosexuality needs to be exterminated and sending hate mail to gays, something that neither are guilty of (or atleast, there is no evidence they are guilty of it).

In any case, my main point was that extreme language like that which is so often used by those on the left is counter-productive more often than not. Let the facts speak for themselves without exaggerating.

I absolutely stick by 'rampant homophobia', thankyou very much, Danny.

 

If someone persistently votes against and makes negative statements and comments about homosexuality - and builds a whole campaign on their dislike of it, let's be frank here, with the Republicans shouting about 'traditional family values' at every opportunity they have... yes, of course I'd say it was rampant homophobia. Extremely rampant, in fact.

 

You don't need to go around shouting and screaming "Gays are evil" to instil the belief in someone's mind that homosexuality is evil, you know.... and as for saying Palin and the codger aren't lunatics... err.... I beg to differ......

Palin once blessed to be free from 'witchcraft'

 

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A video on her hometown church Web site shows Sarah Palin being blessed three years ago by a Kenyan pastor who prayed for her protection from "witchcraft" as she prepared to seek higher office.

 

The video, which made the rounds Wednesday on the Internet, shows Palin standing before Bishop Thomas Muthee in the pulpit of the Wasilla Assembly of God church, holding her hands open as he asked Jesus Christ to keep her safe from "every form of witchcraft."

 

"Come on, talk to God about this woman. We declare, save her from Satan," Muthee said as two attendants placed their hands on Palin's shoulders. "Make her way my God. Bring finances her way even for the campaign in the name of Jesus. ... Use her to turn this nation the other way around."

 

The date of the sermon listed on the church Web site is Oct. 16, 2005. Palin formally announced her gubernatorial bid two days later and was elected the next year.

 

Palin does not say anything on the video and keeps her head bowed throughout the blessing. The Republican vice presidential candidate was baptized at the church but stopped attending regularly in 2002.

 

A spokesman for the McCain campaign declined to comment late Wednesday. A person who answered the phone at the Wasilla church confirmed the video was from May 2005 but declined further comment.

 

Palin was baptized Roman Catholic as a newborn.

 

Pentecostals are conservative in their reading of the Bible. Unlike most other Christians — including most evangelicals — Pentecostals believe in "baptism in the Holy Spirit." That can manifest itself through speaking in tongues, modern-day prophesy and faith healing, which includes the laying on of hands.

 

Maria Comella, a spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, has said Palin attends different churches and does not consider herself Pentecostal.

 

On a visit to the church in June 2008, Palin spoke fondly of the Kenyan pastor and told a group of young missionaries that Muthee's prayers had helped her to become governor.

 

"Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he's so bold," she said. "And he was praying 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way' ... He said, 'Lord make a way and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened."

 

Muthee returned to the Wasilla church last weekend, where he gave a series of sermons over three days. Palin was campaigning in Florida.

 

The Rev. Zipporah Ndiritu, who studied under Muthee in the Kiambu, Kenya-based Word of Faith Church, said the bishop is revered among evangelicals there. In a phone interview from Mombasa, Kenya, she said church doctrine focuses on ridding the world of demons — and witches.

 

"Even in the days of Jesus Christ, according to the Bible there were witches who were manifesting through demonic forces," she said. "You can seek from the Lord, and if you find demonic forces you cast them out."

 

Ndiritu said she did not know Palin.

 

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_...9tIP_MA2BOs0NUE

 

I absolutely stick by 'rampant homophobia', thankyou very much, Danny.

 

If someone persistently votes against and makes negative statements and comments about homosexuality - and builds a whole campaign on their dislike of it, let's be frank here, with the Republicans shouting about 'traditional family values' at every opportunity they have... yes, of course I'd say it was rampant homophobia. Extremely rampant, in fact.

 

You don't need to go around shouting and screaming "Gays are evil" to instil the belief in someone's mind that homosexuality is evil, you know.... and as for saying Palin and the codger aren't lunatics... err.... I beg to differ......

Whatever. We're arguing the same thing (that equal civil liberties for gay and straight couples should go without saying) so it's pretty pointless arguing haha.

 

Palin once blessed to be free from 'witchcraft'

Using any ounce of logic, I make this about the 10th time the Republican campaign should by all rights have been killed off. Unfortunately, the idiocy of many Americans continues to amaze me, and I have no doubt it won't stop now...

Look at this answer Palin gave in a recent disastrous interview...

 

COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

 

PALIN: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

 

She clearly just threw out every soundbite she's learned about the economy, resulting in plain gibberish. And yet, about 40% of Americans are still willing to let her become a 72-year-old's heartbeat away from the most important position in the world. It beggars belief.