im certain that if i was locked up in prison for ever that id still not turn to gay sex, id simply go without.

 

Er, you kind of assume you'd have that choice mate.... A lot of prisoners (esp in the US) are coerced or raped by the more violent or "established" prisoners... It can also even be used as a form of "protection" for some of the younger inmates... They sell themselves as a "b**ch" to the top dogs on the block in exchange for the top dog's protection from other inmates...

 

You say it yourself though, it's all "anonymous" innit, you wouldn't even know if one of your mates or neighbours was off on one of these sorts of websites chatting about stuff that they're actually curious about, but afraid to actually do, ironically, because of what their mates would think.... :rolleyes: Freud has it spot on when he writes about "repression", he really does... Most are afraid to admit to what really turns them on because of society's hang-ups and rather hypocritical "values", because it's just not the "done thing" is it....?

 

Prisons are pretty notorious for 'male on male' action, and very few of these guys are gay or bi, the reasons for it are pretty obvious - no women around, and no one's really gonna talk about it in any great detail, at least, not while they're there at any rate....

 

but you are bi.... and live in london, you are 'metrosexual'? you see things from your perspective. sorry i just dont buy the suggestion that 'every male is upto it in secret' line of thinking at all... but i DO accept that alot goes on behind closed doors on one hand, and on the other hand NOTHING goes on!

 

WHAT?..... THE? .... FCUK? how does THAT equate? if a man has a sexual relationship with another man then he IS gay OR bi! he stops being 'straight' when that occurs! :lol: pillock! if you are straight then no amount of female deprivation will turn you otherwise... why cant you just accept what i as a totally straight male tells you? MEN DO NOT, HAVE NEVER, AND WILL NOT, EVER TURN ME ON! in the very same way that a fully gay man will never be turned on by a woman.

 

non of the guys i know who have been inside have ever related any acts of homosexual encounters, in fact if someone tried it on with ryan, he would have decked him!

Er, you kind of assume you'd have that choice mate.... A lot of prisoners (esp in the US) are coerced or raped by the more violent or "established" prisoners... It can also even be used as a form of "protection" for some of the younger inmates... They sell themselves as a "b**ch" to the top dogs on the block in exchange for the top dog's protection from other inmates...

 

then that IS rape.... being forced to do a sexual act against you will... that is a different case altogether.

but you are bi.... and live in london, you are 'metrosexual'? you see things from your perspective. sorry i just dont buy the suggestion that 'every male is upto it in secret' line of thinking at all... but i DO accept that alot goes on behind closed doors on one hand, and on the other hand NOTHING goes on!

 

WHAT?..... THE? .... FCUK? how does THAT equate? if a man has a sexual relationship with another man then he IS gay OR bi! he stops being 'straight' when that occurs!

 

So, tell me Einstein, why does it occur in many of these instances only in prison, and not when an ex-con is in the outside world as a general rule... You cannot possibly claim that the environment does not play a factor, that goes against every finding that empirical research has done into this phenomenon... These men would also describe themselves as "real men" as well Rob, and tend to be incredibly hostile to gay or bisexual lifestyles, many of them have families, wives, kids, they dont go "cruising"... They are complete hypocrites, yes, but that does not explain WHY this phenomenon occurs....

 

So, tell me Einstein, why does it occur in many of these instances only in prison, and not when an ex-con is in the outside world as a general rule... You cannot possibly claim that the environment does not play a factor, that goes against every finding that empirical research has done into this phenomenon... These men would also describe themselves as "real men" as well Rob, and tend to be incredibly hostile to gay or bisexual lifestyles, many of them have families, wives, kids, they dont go "cruising"... They are complete hypocrites, yes, but that does not explain WHY this phenomenon occurs....

 

because they have a latent propensity to be 'bi', which in normal circumstances doesnt get animated.

 

not everyone is the same, the spectrum is wide with total gay one end, total straight the other, and a varying degree of 'bi-sexuality' in between. an individuals degree of bi-sexuality plus their environment will determine whether or not you act upon it at any one time.

 

my earlier referance to 'real men' was aimed at the lads i know... ordinary working middle aged men and not the metrosexual city guys.

......... and lets not forget, personal sex drive... i know a couple of asexual males and its quite common in females to lost it after childbirth. its common to 'lose interest' from mid-life onward

because they have a latent propensity to be 'bi', which in normal circumstances doesnt get animated.

 

not everyone is the same, the spectrum is wide with total gay one end, total straight the other, and a varying degree of 'bi-sexuality' in between. an individuals degree of bi-sexuality plus their environment will determine whether or not you act upon it at any one time.

 

my earlier referance to 'real men' was aimed at the lads i know... ordinary working middle aged men and not the metrosexual city guys.

 

Hmmm, not really concvinced by that tbh... I mean, yeah, you had the likes of Reggie Kray who put on a "front" of being a macho guy, but his homosexuality was probably the worst kept secret in the London Underworld... :lol: Also, his gay trysts were hardly confined to prison.. I really do think it's the case in many examples of prison sex, that if there's nowt else around, and you have the biological urges and no "straight" way to act on those, well, young, fresh-faced Tom from the next cell kinda starts to look pretty good, and he's kind of effeminite anyway.... :lol:

 

 

 

Hmmm, not really concvinced by that tbh... I mean, yeah, you had the likes of Reggie Kray who put on a "front" of being a macho guy, but his homosexuality was probably the worst kept secret in the London Underworld... :lol: Also, his gay trysts were hardly confined to prison.. I really do think it's the case in many examples of prison sex, that if there's nowt else around, and you have the biological urges and no "straight" way to act on those, well, young, fresh-faced Tom from the next cell kinda starts to look pretty good, and he's kind of effeminite anyway.... :lol:

 

you cant use 1 example from 40 years ago when homosexuality was still ilegal to doubt what ive put which imho sums up the subject .

 

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

 

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

 

fair play to the guy :)

Anal sex IS pleasurable for all men you imbecile

Could you wash your little mouth a bit??? I don´t know if you´re aware but in this forum you´re not talking to your mates or other people of your own level. So raise your vocabulary a bit to reach civilized people. I´m sorry if you want to force everybody to believe that same sex copulation is really pleasureable. If you like it, then fine, but NO, straight males don´t like it and it has nothing do to with them being afraid or having prejudice. Welcome to the real world, and out of your stupid fantasies, where all straight males are just people who are too backwards to enjoy what they really want deeply in their hearts...

 

- but straight men either a) don't talk about their solo sessions with sex toys that often or B) rarely have a male member up there.... or c) they're sleeping with a woman who simply doesn't know the 'tricks' of the g-spot. Anal stimulation can be one of the highest forms of sexual pleasure - if performed correctly. But then - what would you know about it apart from what you've read in Catholic Weekly?

Sorry, but I´m not a retardad like yourself. I´m sure that I read much more then you, and you only seem to know "common sense" things you read in ridiculous magazines.

 

And, whilst we're on the subject of anal (something you're patently familiar with, Pope Joan of Anal III)... do you honestly think all gay men practice anal sex? Because if you do - you're even more backward than your posts make you seem.

 

The majority of men I know who love anal sex are actually the ones at the 'straighter' end of the maret.... 100% gay men really can, in my experience and in my, ahem, circle of friends, take or leave anal sex. The biggest gay myth is that anal sex is abundant and a regular practise.

I don´t care if they do practice anal sex or not... But the part where you say straigh males love anal sex is just pure myth... it is something that you really wan´t to believe, but have no basis other then the fantasies of your head. Maybe a gay person who is afraid to get "out of the closet" would love to do anal sex, but seriously, NO, straight male aren´t any inclined to enjoy anal sex.

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Overstaged

id suggest you get out into the real world and talk to REAL men...

 

i have never tried anal sex... why? because it is not a practice that i find in the least bit appealing! like other straight men! and because ive never tried it doesnt mean that i cannot pass comment on it... you dont have to eat dog$h!t to KNOW it would be an unpleasant experience. there are plenty of sexual activities that you either find appealing, or not.

 

theres no choice.... you are either 'wired' to enjoy certain activities or you arnt.

 

i AM a reliable scource because im talking from MY experience, im talking about the people i know and mix with, im sorry if it shatters you dream that all men are secretly gay... WE ARNT! im fully aware that anal sex is enjoyed by both sexes, BUT ONLY IF THEY LIKE IT! ive yet to meet a woman who likes it (though i know that there are plenty)

 

you seem incapeable of replying to ANYONE without resorting to name calling and insults... which spoils you. if anyone 'protests too much' (which kinda proves my point about your dream that all straight men are really closet gays), then its YOU. YOU are the one who comes across as very insecure about your sexuality, jumping up at every opportunity to defend/promote it in the most vociferous way. m8... i couldnt give a damn who is what, i couldnt give a damn what consenting adults do in there own private lives...it has fcuk all to do with me! i do object to having overtly gay men repeatedly suggest that 'us straights' are closet gays or are only straight because we havnt tried it... when all along you dont seem to want to accept the fact that NOT EVERYBODY IS ATTRACTED TO GAY/OR ANAL SEX be it with a man or a woman. truth is...i know very few people who are, and i know alot who are repulsed by it.

 

just live with it.... i do... not everybody is the same, not everybody has the same sexual wireing, plenty of people will be repulsed by certain acts (across the board here, straight/gay/ fetishism..etc) that others love... thats the way it is, so dont be offended or take it as a personal attack if someone doesnt like or want to entertain the practices you do..

 

besides... im more interested in russt the man and not russt the gay man.. your sexuality has nothing to do with me.

 

That´s 100% truth... Russt is a complete lunatic. He is not like most gay people who just fight for their rights, but it´s like he wants to convince the entire planet to be homossexual, and he takes as a deep offense if someone dares not to be excited by having sex by the organ they defecate. That´s ludicrous. Even refusing to try the supposedly "pleasureable" practice is seen as backwardism. Yeah... all "modern men" should try having a c**k in the button they defecate in other to be sure if they´ll like ir or not. This bares the need of clinical treatment for insanity.

I have to say, I'm completely with Russ on this debate.... Most straight men, if they are being really honest (as opposed to putting on some front of mock shock for their mates..) about it, absolutely LOVE it when their woman sticks their finger "up there" during sex.. Of course, this is something they wont admit to, cos it makes them "look poofy...". Well, it doesn't.... This particular practice has absolutely nowt to do with 'being gay', or gay sex, it's merely stimulation to make the orgasm more intense. Believe me, it works.... :rolleyes:

How do you know it??? Just because the majority of people claim to not enjoy some practice you find pleasureable, means they are not being honest??? If you are not straight then you can´t tell really... Each person knows what they feel hot for and what not. Most males don´t find pleasurable to have things penetrating their back - get along with it. Just because you like it doesn´t mean the whole world should be falling for it...

 

sorry... 10% over...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_...exual_relations

 

The Kinsey report suggests 44% of prison inmates interviewed for his somewhat flawed report had had sexual relations with other inmates.

 

So... 75% of men bisexual? Or even 44%? Doesn't it steer you to the honest conclusion that your sexuality is defined by society...and that humans, when devoid of the limitations and expectations of society...simply revert back to doing what humans have done since time began - having sexual relations with each other, regardless of gender?

 

Oh, life in prison... You seem to omit that fact that huge part of this blokes, if not ALL of them, don´t do it because they want it, but because they are forced to it.

 

And also, there´s the fact that you don´t have a female with a proper vagina availble in a male prison. That explains a lot... I bet 95% of those guys would trade a male ass for a proper female sexual organ any day if they had the option.

 

Your argument is bull$h!t (as always), cause even in nature the rate of mammals having gay sex is much smaller then that of male humans in prison. If prisons mixed males and females you´d see hugely different numbers really... that´s pretty obvious, except in your lunatic fantasies, where all straigh people are just to coward to get out of the closet.

Hmmm, not really concvinced by that tbh... I mean, yeah, you had the likes of Reggie Kray who put on a "front" of being a macho guy, but his homosexuality was probably the worst kept secret in the London Underworld... :lol: Also, his gay trysts were hardly confined to prison.. I really do think it's the case in many examples of prison sex, that if there's nowt else around, and you have the biological urges and no "straight" way to act on those, well, young, fresh-faced Tom from the next cell kinda starts to look pretty good, and he's kind of effeminite anyway.... :lol:

 

Yes, and that seems to be the same with most cases of homossexual acts in nature also... Men who are desperately in need of sex and don´t have a female available would sometimes have sex with a doll or even an animal (that´s very common in rural areas, believe me...), or simply go trough masturbation. Anal sex in prison seems to be no different... With no possibility of having straight sex, they try a "simulation" that would make them feel a similar sensation. That goes for the male who is "active" in the relation... In prison, that´s also a sign of domination: nobody would ever want to be the passive guy, but the weaker or less popular ones will HAVE to do it because they are forced by older and more dangerous prisoners. It should be mention that this type of relations hardly ever involves kissing or any type of love. In most cases, it´s just a guy forcing his pen*s into another one just to achieve an orgasm.

 

In rural areas you´d have teenagers having sex with animals. That doesn´t mean a guy is atracted by a chicken (literally) at all. He is just doing a "simulation" cause he can´t have a proper woman available...

who let Dame Anal of Brazil back among us? I thought he'd been chucked off of here?

 

One thing, too, darling... if you read so much - PLEASE learn to spell re****.

 

Thank you.

I'm quite stunned that some people in here seem to be suggesting that people can "turn" bi/gay.

Most males don´t find pleasurable to have things penetrating their back - get along with it. Just because you like it doesn´t mean the whole world should be falling for it...

 

 

so I presume the last time you had anal sex - it didn't float your boat, no? Or the last time a girl slid a finger up your jacksy when you slept with her... it didn't do the trick?

 

Because - if you've never experienced either (and I have a feeeling you've been devoid of ANY sexual contact with ANYONE)... how on earth can you attempt, in your laughably broken English, to add ANYTHING to this discussion?

It has been proved that anal stimulation does make a sexual act more pleasurable, and for men it provides a bigger and better orgasm :lol:

I'm quite stunned that some people in here seem to be suggesting that people can "turn" bi/gay.

 

I'm quite stunned that you're the third person in this thread to suggest anyone said so! No one has ever said "everyone is secretly gay" or "people can turn gay" or anything of the like. What has been said is that the male prostate can be stimulated during sex. That is all.

 

The definition of "gay," I'm sure we all agree, is sexual attraction to a member of the same sex. Stimulating the prostate through anal stimulation does not imply homosexuality nor does it define it.

 

EDIT: I assumed you were echoing the comments of Overstaged. Kindly correct me if I'm wrong :)

Edited December 8, 200816 yr by Consie