It was only a few years ago that The Voice, a leading black publication in the UK, printed 2 pages of letters supporting homophobia... saying homophobia was "part of black culture" and to try to reject it was being "racist". I can only presume these people have never encountered a gay black person :rolleyes: Also, two of the most influential black cultural figures of the last century, Langston Hughes and James Baldwin, were gay.

 

An interesting reading on black homophobia in Britain...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2468329.stm

 

Obama's comments on black homophobia this year...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineus...ontheblackcommu

 

Jamaican homophobia... this is a very interesting read...

http://www.petertatchell.net/international/jamaica.htm

 

as is this...

http://www.newstatesman.com/200410040017

"A few years ago, the Jamaican media reported that a Gay Pride march was scheduled in the capital, Kingston. Hundreds of people wielding guns, machetes, clubs and knives turned up at the starting point. They had come to kill the "battymen" (a patois term of abuse meaning "queers" or "faggots"). The police turned up, too - not to protect the marchers, but to help murder them.

 

Under Jamaican law, homosexuality is a crime punishable by ten years' hard labour. Men who sexually abuse girls in their early teens face a maximum of seven years in jail. Queer-bashing victims cannot go to the police for help, because officers are likely to abuse, assault and arrest them. Amnesty International confirms that gay men and lesbians have been "beaten, cut, burned, raped and shot on account of their sexuality". Jamaican police, instead of assisting the victims, are often themselves guilty of homophobic "violence and torture", says Amnesty.

 

Gay people taken to hospital after being queer-bashed sometimes have to face the ordeal of hostile doctors and nurses. Badly injured victims of gay-bashing have been insulted by hospital staff and made to wait nearly 24 hours for medical treatment.

 

P J Patterson, Jamaica's prime minister, refuses to speak out against the murder of gay people. His police chief has failed to crack down on homophobic violence.

 

Homophobic hatred and violence is whipped up by Jamaica's eight leading performers of dance-hall reggae, including Beenie Man, Vybz Kartel, Buju Banton and Elephant Man."

And the shame of Jamica..... some vile lyrics from reggae 'artists'...

 

Reggae incitement to murder lyrics - key samples

 

Beenie Man's track Damn boasts: "I'm dreaming of a new Jamaica, come to execute all the gays".

 

Bounty Killer's hit, Another Level, exhorts: "Bun (burn) a fire pon.mister fagoty./Poop man fi drown".

 

The song, Nuh Fi Wi Fault, by Elephant Man boasts:

 

Battyman fi dead!

Queers are to be killed

 

Please mark we word

Please mark my words

 

Gimme tha tech-nine

Give me the Tech-9 (machine gun)

 

Shoot dem like bird

Shoot them (queers) like birds

 

Another Elephant Man track, We Nuh Like Gay, goes:

 

Battyman fi dead! Tek dem by surprise

Queers are to be killed, take them by surprise

 

Ghetta in shot head, cau me big gun collide.

Get them shot in the head because we have the big guns (to shoot them)

 

Gimme me Tech-9, General B wid de chrome an waa shine/

Give me the Tech-9 (type of gun) with the chrome and the shine

 

Harry Toddler shot out ah bugger-man

Shoot all queer men

 

Elephant Man's song, Log On, celebrates setting fire to a gay person and

stamping on their body:

 

Log on and step pon chi chi man

Log on and step on a queer man

(Log on is a type of dance using the right foot in a stepping motion as if

to squash a c**k roach or insect - the dance lyric boasts about stepping on

queers).

 

Dance wi a dance and a bun out a freaky man.

Join our dance to burn out the queer man

 

Step pon him like a old cloth

Step on him like an old cloth

 

A dance wi a dance and a crush out dem.

Join our dance and crush them (queers)

(further emphasis to invite participants to do the dance)

 

Do di walk, mek mi see the light and di torch dem fass

Do the walk, make us see the light and torch the queers fast

 

Another Level, featuring Bounty Killer with Babycham, says:

 

Bun a fire pon a kuh pon mister fagoty (Uh huh)

Burn a fire and kill Mr queer

 

Cocky deh yah suh fi wheel unda Dorothy (Uh huh)

The c**k is to be used under Dorothy (a girl)

 

Ears ah ben up and a wince under agony

Ears are bending and the girl is wincing with agony

 

Poop man fi drown a dat a yawd man philosophy (Uh huh)

Queer men who have anal sex should be drowned and that's a yardy man

philosophy

 

Beenie Man's hit tune, Bad Man Chi Chi Man (Bad Man, Queer Man), instructs

listeners to kill gay DJs (bad man chi chi man means bad queers):

 

If yuh nuh chi chi (queer) man wave yuh right hand and (NO!!!)

If you are not gay wave your right hand and

 

If yuh nuh lesbian wave yuh right hand and (NO!!!)

If you are not a lesbian wave your right hand and

 

Some bwoy will go a jail fi kill man tun bad man chi chi man!!!

Some boys will go to jail for killing a man and then turn into a queer

 

Tell mi, sumfest it should a be a showdown

Tell me if Sumfest (summerfest reggae festival) should close down

 

Yuh seem to run off a stage like a clown (Kill Dem DJ!!!)

You see him run off the stage like a clown (Kill that DJ!!!)

 

Bounty Killer's Mr. Wanna Be includes the lyrics:

(This song refers to the rivalry between Beenie Man and Bounty Killer)

 

Hear this likkle punk guh sing a battyman concert

Hear this little boy going to sing at queer concert

 

Seh him hood Beenie, a deh suh mi object

Say he's done Beenie damage and he (Bounty Killer) does not object

 

And him guh pon Mirage, and guh dis-respect.

And he went to Mirage (a former night club) and showed disrespect (toward

Bounty Killer)

 

War mi start dat by reservation and request

War is going to start by reservation and request

 

To kill dis yah fool, to me dat is no stress

To kill this fool, to me that is no stress

 

Murder dem fast just like a Federal Express

Murder them fast just like Federal Express

 

And mi run wild west

And I run the wild west (cowboy reference)

 

excellant post russ :)

 

danny... you cannot deny these facts, homophobia IS more rife amongst the afro-carribean community then the white one

excellant post russ :)

 

danny... you cannot deny these facts, homophobia IS more rife amongst the afro-carribean community then the white one

 

Absolutely. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves:

 

Here is more evidence of homophobia in US Rap music:

New York Times

June 1, 2006:

 

Rapper 50 Cent quickly dissed Kanye West over the interview. Revealing himself as a guy who “just doesn't get it”, 50 Cent (whose past raps have included anti-gay slurs) spewed forth some pretty nasty dish. On New York's Hot 97 morning show he told host Miss Jones:

 

“They like Kanye West 'cause he's a safe ni**a. It's better for your kid to wanna dress weird and just have a whole other vibe. He said something in an interview one time that made me think about it. He said 'cause he was raised by his mother, he has feminine ways. That right there is who Kanye West is to me. That statement is stuck in my head. He said it like he meant it.”

 

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As reported by The New York Post (and many other tabloids) on March 29, 2006, U.S. rap star BUSTA Rhymes went off on a homophobic rant over a young gay fan whose only crime was tapping Rhymes on the shoulder at a diner in Miami.

 

Eyewitness Thomas Barker recalls what made Busta lose his temper,

 

“The restaurant (located near a gay bar) was packed with transvestites, gay men and drag queens, which obviously made Busta a little edgy. This became evident when a young gay guy came up behind Busta and tapped him on the shoulder to congratulate the rapper on his recent comeback. Before the guy could even mutter a word, Busta turned around and repeatedly screamed, 'Why the f*** you touchin' me, man? Get the f*** away from me' . . . his two huge bodyguards then caused an even larger scene by pushing the kid away . . . Busta quietly whispered to his bodyguards, 'I hate f***ing faggots, man.”

 

This incident happens to follow the release of Busta's "Touch It" remix – which also features DMX, Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliot, and others. The track includes a line in which rapper DMX says, "F*** you, f*****, I shot at you!"

 

...and there was me thinking Mary J and Missy were pretty cool... not anymore.

 

You can almost excuse 50 Cent - the man's so stupid he can barely uttera decipherable sentence... and Busta Rhymes... well... he's hardly Einstein, is he? And his msic stinks to high heaven.

 

One final thought on Mr Rhymes.... is it any wonder he gets accosted by 'faggots' when he goes out dragged up like this... I mean...really :D

 

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm76/blissfulignorance_2008/busta-rhymes-everybody-rise.jpg

 

Dick Emery must be very proud, honky tonk

Power to the protestors - I'm with them every step of the way - I think the younger gay communities, totally through their own fault, have become complacent and lazy - equal rights that were fought for for decades have been handed to them on a plate.... and they show little respect or regard for the fight their forefathers made for them to live freely - which is always a huge mistake, you should never, ever forget.

 

That's not true, I have been to 2 rallys already fighting for gay rights...one being in front of the state capital building. And there were ALOT of young people at the rally. Don't know how it is in Europe but we fight for ours.

 

There has also been HUUUUGE protests in California, I was watching about it on CNN a couple days ago. We aren't keeping quiet on this one. ;)

...and there was me thinking Mary J and Missy were pretty cool... not anymore.

I think it must be pointed out here that neither artist has espoused homophobia, and indeed there have been a great deal of rumours that Missy Elliott is a lesbian - which she has neither confirmed nor denied, and I think the following interview shows she's quite open on the matter and a lot more liberal than a great deal of artists within her genre:

 

And what of her own dark secrets? When I ask her what she makes of the rumours that she’s a lesbian, she doesn’t flinch. She keeps eye contact and only slightly avoids the question by talking again about that troubled childhood – she’s currently working with Paramount to direct a story of her difficult youth – ‘I think people are sometimes intimidated when you’re strong like that. And for me, I just feel like, I had a mother that was a single parent. At first she was very dependent on my father – I mean very. Everything was like, “I can’t do this without him”, and when we left him, she became very strong. I picked up so much of her ways. When people see how strong I am, and there’s not a man around, it’s like, “Ok, what’s she doin’?” But I’m never bothered by it. It’s just like, I’m gonna still be strong.’

 

And if you had a relationship with a woman would you admit to it? ‘Yeah. I feel like, love is love. When you’re growing up, everybody’s always, “You not supposed to do this, you not supposed to do that”, but I feel like no sin is greater than another, and if you say God is love, then that’s what it is. If I was in love, then I’d just have to be like, “Hey, world”.’

 

I mean I would never say what I would never do. When I was 15 I would have said I would have never tried weed so you know…never say never’.

 

But in the here and now, the press have picked up on what they deem as clues to her Sapphic potential. There are the clichéd tomboy pointers: the ownership of 3000 pairs of sneakers, her addiction to bubble gum (an opened pack of water melon Bubblicious sits on the hotel table), and having a bed shaped like a car in her Miami home. Missy is never seen with any obvious boyfriends, and seems to prefer the company of women. She’s best friends with Lil’ Kim, for instance, and advised her to wear the famous one-breast dress that she donned one scandalous night on the red carpet. Missy apparently told Lil’ Kim that she shouldn’t be afraid to show off such great breasts.

 

And also Mary J Blige has been quoted as supporting fundraisers against Proposition 8 with Barbara Streisand and Melissa Etherington, as well as saying the following in Curve Magazine:

 

Has anyone ever told you that you have a huge fan base among lesbians?

I know that. As far as gay men, gay women, I know that, and I’m cool with that because I have gay friends, and I love them very dearly.

 

Last year Kanye West was very outspoken about how hip-hop discriminates against gays. He was saying that it was a homophobic kind of culture. What do you think of his statements? Do you agree with him?

I really don’t know. See, I guess that’s in the male part of the world. ’Cause I don’t think like that. At the end of the day God loves us all, whether we be gay, straight, black, white, whatever. So if God loves us all, who am I to think anything different? At the end of the day, I love us all. I guess … I can’t make a comment on his statement. All I can say is this is the way I think, and I have, clearly, no judgments on anyone. I’m a mess [laughs]. I’ve got stuff going on in my life that, like, who am I to think that I’m better than anybody, you know?

 

I don't think involvement on a remix where someone says a homophobic lyric can really be a sign of homophobia on the behalf of fellow artists...especially as the likelihood of all the artists being present in the same studio at the making of the remix is quite low due to the 'jigsaw puzzle' nature of these remixes :lol:

Well, I sinecerly hope that with the absolute reams of information and evidence that Russ, Richard and myself have brought to this discussion that the likes of Danny and "Overstaged" (aka Janet Jackson's Nipple, a known homophobe on this forum, they can change their ID as much as they bloody well like, we know who you are mate.... :lol: ) will actually change their positions and accept the facts that certain sections of popular Black culture are propogating violence towards homosexuals which DOES translate into real-life gaybashing incidents, and also that religious dogma very clearly plays a part in this... The evidence is overwhelming... The fact also that the Jamaican authorities are themselves taking part in this bigotry and violence and the fact that the white, liberal PC brigade in this country says absolutely FUKK ALL about it while at the same time decrying the policies of US and UK authorities in Iraq and Afghanistan speaks volumes in itself....

 

As Bill Hicks once said, "all governments are lying co**su**ers"... Absolutely correct, regardless of whether these Govts are white, black or Asian.... :rolleyes:

Well, I sinecerly hope that with the absolute reams of information and evidence that Russ, Richard and myself have brought to this discussion that the likes of Danny and "Overstaged" (aka Janet Jackson's Nipple, a known homophobe on this forum, they can change their ID as much as they bloody well like, we know who you are mate.... :lol: ) will actually change their positions and accept the facts that certain sections of popular Black culture are propogating violence towards homosexuals which DOES translate into real-life gaybashing incidents, and also that religious dogma very clearly plays a part in this... The evidence is overwhelming... The fact also that the Jamaican authorities are themselves taking part in this bigotry and violence and the fact that the white, liberal PC brigade in this country says absolutely FUKK ALL about it while at the same time decrying the policies of US and UK authorities in Iraq and Afghanistan speaks volumes in itself....

 

As Bill Hicks once said, "all governments are lying co**su**ers"... Absolutely correct, regardless of whether these Govts are white, black or Asian.... :rolleyes:

 

.... ofcourse not... when was the last time a christian changed their minds!!! :lol: they are right and have a book to prove it!

 

 

oh.... jonathon edwards did :cheer:

Why do people keep listing homophobic American musicians or Jamaican culture as a way of disproving my point that the average black person in Britain and most developed countries are no more homophobic than a white person? Like I said originally, I accept that there is a lot of homophobia in the American black community, because they are not yet a fully racially-integrated society, and similarly in many Third World countries where education is not good.

Why do people keep listing homophobic American musicians or Jamaican culture as a way of disproving my point that the average black person in Britain and most developed countries are no more homophobic than a white person? Like I said originally, I accept that there is a lot of homophobia in the American black community, because they are not yet a fully racially-integrated society, and similarly in many Third World countries where education is not good.

 

Maybe you should try reading the thread, it is not exactly short of evidence showing that the average Afro-Caribbean is more likely to be homophobic than the average Caucasian.

 

Lets face it if someone like Robbie Williams or Justin Timberlake came up with a song with similar lyrical content to that of 50 Cent or Busta Rhymes they're careers would be over quicker than the average Daily Mail reader can call Ofcom.

 

A study performed in 2007 in the UK for the charity Stonewall reported that 90 percent of the population support the ban on discrimination against gays and lesbians. However when broken down on racial backgrounds just 62% of Afro-Caribbean's supported the ban compared to 93% of Caucasians..... and that is just in the UK.

 

How much more evidence do you want.

 

 

So, shut the fukk up about there being no link between religious beliefs and blatant Homophobia.....

 

 

No I don´t, because to me, it´s a fact... Sorry if you disagree. There are 2 points about this I´d like to write down.

 

1) Thinking that the anus is not made for sexual purpouses and that relationship between people of oposite sex is the ideal marriage, for being the one that allows our species to exist among other things, is not homophobia. It´s just opinion, that we have the right to voice whenever we want. If you want to call religious people (at least, the majority of them) homphobic for disagreeing with homossexuality, so in your words it´s you who should "shut the f*** up", for having no clue of what´s homophobia. If that was inciting hate towards gay people or banning them to exercise their rights, then I´d agree it was homophobia. But simply having a negative opinion about it IS NOT. It´s a basical human right to have opinions and voice them.

 

2) You don´t like to be impartial, really. Just like you always state that religions cannot get the merits of inventing morals (like loving each other, not killing, not stealing, etc), because they were pre-existent and indepent of religion at all, you should (if you were impartial and coerent, which seems you´re not...) admit the same about the general religious dislike of homossexuality. It was pre-existent to religion and independend of it. People do not believe homossexuality is wrong because it´s written on their holly books, but actually the other way round: the "holly" books were written that way because that is what people believed by the time they were written.

nonsense.... you clearly dont know what the difference is between an athiest and an agnostic. athiesm does NOT preach homophobia, athiesm does not call homosexuality 'wrong','un-natural', 'sinful', .... the church DOES.

 

 

Since when calling something wrong can be "homophobia"??? It´s just a basic human right... For instance, I DO think that homossexuality is wrong and that doesn´t have anything to do with religion at all. Just basic biology. I don´t protest in front of gay people and don´t humiliate them, don´t deny their rights, etc, and in fact if I lived in USA I´d even vote for their right to get married. However, my personal opinion about it CANNOT be considered a crime, nor does the legislation of any country say this.

 

 

You´re totally out of mind if you think having a negative opinion about homossexuality defines "homophobia".

 

Homophobia is not directly related to religion and that is pretty much a fact. The fact that most members of hate groups who kill homossexuals today are not religious and are heavily inclined towards nihilistic atheism/agnosticism is a big proof of it.

 

However, just be blind if you wish so... People need to create an imaginary enemy to fight against.

Kanye West...and he got absolutely slammed for doing so :manson:

 

 

And should I remember Kanye West is a devote Christian who even puts Jesus and stuff in his lyrics (which would be considered career suicide by most pop acts today)???? However, nobody seems to bother it....

 

 

Once again, the impartial hate campaign towards christianity on this forum only looks the bad side... They would never remember Kany West is a Christian, and so is Bono and many other popstars who give a far better role model for youth today then any of these idiotic barbie dolls who do nothing but show their uteros on MTV and worry about nothing other then their clothes and cars.

 

 

Nobody will remeber Martin Luther King was a Christian either, and a pastor.

 

 

I doubt that anyone that commits crimes against gay people or those "artists" who write lyrics inciting violence are seriously Christian, and if they are, surely they cannot feel like they have "the Church" on their side. For instance, the Catholic Church is one of the few that even protests against capital punishment in America, even concerning serial killers and stuff. I doubt they´d support killing a person for being homossexual. :unsure: They might have done it in the past, but welcome to the 21st century.

Well, I sinecerly hope that with the absolute reams of information and evidence that Russ, Richard and myself have brought to this discussion that the likes of Danny and "Overstaged" (aka Janet Jackson's Nipple, a known homophobe on this forum, they can change their ID as much as they bloody well like, we know who you are mate.... :lol: )

I didn´t change my nickname to hide myself, as if I needed to, and I stand by every word I say. I am not an homophobe and everyone who says that is idiot, for simply not knowing that "homophobia" means.

Why do people keep listing homophobic American musicians or Jamaican culture as a way of disproving my point that the average black person in Britain and most developed countries are no more homophobic than a white person? Like I said originally, I accept that there is a lot of homophobia in the American black community, because they are not yet a fully racially-integrated society, and similarly in many Third World countries where education is not good.

 

 

Because gays must have suffered prejudice, and now some of them like Russt seem to want to transfer it to other groups, like christians and blacks. It´s clearly irrational, but these loons always need an expiatory group to put all the blame on, pretty much like mediavallers blamed witches for anything, from diseases to natural catastrophes, now it´s "religion" who is to blame for anything bad happening in the world. These arguments are so stupid and coming from people so ignorant that makes me think it´s not even worth battling for this...

 

 

How ironic it is, that the current "darling" of all liberals in America, Barack Obama, is a black person and a christian one. LMAO. Not just a Christian, but a practicing pentecostal one... I just have to laugh my entire arse off at people like Russt putting all their hopes in a guy that is at the same time, black and christian, the 2 things that he seems to hate the most. That´s totally ironic...

Since when calling something wrong can be "homophobia"??? It´s just a basic human right... For instance, I DO think that homossexuality is wrong and that doesn´t have anything to do with religion at all. Just basic biology. I don´t protest in front of gay people and don´t humiliate them, don´t deny their rights, etc, and in fact if I lived in USA I´d even vote for their right to get married. However, my personal opinion about it CANNOT be considered a crime, nor does the legislation of any country say this.

You´re totally out of mind if you think having a negative opinion about homossexuality defines "homophobia".

 

Homophobia is not directly related to religion and that is pretty much a fact. The fact that most members of hate groups who kill homossexuals today are not religious and are heavily inclined towards nihilistic atheism/agnosticism is a big proof of it.

 

However, just be blind if you wish so... People need to create an imaginary enemy to fight against.

 

ffs LISTEN <_<

 

attacks on gay people have NEVER been committed 'in the name of atheism'.. but they HAVE used religion to justify it! the church preaching that homosexuality is wrong fuels hatred towards gay people...

 

"You´re totally out of mind if you think having a negative opinion about homossexuality defines "homophobia".

 

im not so sure that correct tbh..... homophobia is a dislike/distaste for homosexual activity, so saying you dont like it qualifies.

. People do not believe homossexuality is wrong because it´s written on their holly books, but actually the other way round: the "holly" books were written that way because that is what people believed by the time they were written.

 

holly is a prickly leafed evergreen tree...

 

hold on... so the bible was written because thats what people believed to be right at the time it was written? ... SO IT WASNT THE WORD OF GOD, DICTATED BY GOD then? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

 

No I don?t, because to me, it?s a fact... Sorry if you disagree. There are 2 points about this I?d like to write down.

 

1) Thinking that the anus is not made for sexual purpouses and that relationship between people of oposite sex is the ideal marriage, for being the one that allows our species to exist among other things, is not homophobia. It?s just opinion, that we have the right to voice whenever we want. If you want to call religious people (at least, the majority of them) homphobic for disagreeing with homossexuality, so in your words it?s you who should "shut the f*** up", for having no clue of what?s homophobia. If that was inciting hate towards gay people or banning them to exercise their rights, then I?d agree it was homophobia. But simply having a negative opinion about it IS NOT. It?s a basical human right to have opinions and voice them.

 

2) You don?t like to be impartial, really. Just like you always state that religions cannot get the merits of inventing morals (like loving each other, not killing, not stealing, etc), because they were pre-existent and indepent of religion at all, you should (if you were impartial and coerent, which seems you?re not...) admit the same about the general religious dislike of homossexuality. It was pre-existent to religion and independend of it. People do not believe homossexuality is wrong because it?s written on their holly books, but actually the other way round: the "holly" books were written that way because that is what people believed by the time they were written.

Well, would you care to explain why the prostate responds to manipulation in the way it does? :rolleyes: And nobody is advocating universal homosexuality FFS! :lol: And would you say the same thing to having a negative opinion of black people? No, you would call it racism! :lol:

 

And homophobia was pre-existent of religion, but that still doesn't stop the fact that religion is the most common justification for homophobia!

hold on... so the bible was written because thats what people believed to be right at the time it was written? ... SO IT WASNT THE WORD OF GOD, DICTATED BY GOD then? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

Game, Set and Match to Rob..... :lol: :lol:

 

Absolutely mate... These "holy" books, like the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, were written at a particular TIME for people to make sense of the world as it EXISTED THEN.... They hold no more relevance now than Conan Doyle's or Dickens' literary musings upon 19th Century life in London, simply because the conditions that existed THEN no longer exist NOW, the same thing will happen to Irvine Welsh's commentaries on late-80s/early 90s life for the underclasses of Edinburgh in a hundred years or so, because DIFFERENT conditions will exist of 2080 or 2090....

 

If these "holy" books were so perfectly correct and handed down from God, why no mention of Dinosaurs, why no mention of the fact that the world aint flat or that the Earth revolves around the Sun (which we take for granted NOW, but when such thoughts were being espoused way back when, it was considered heresy by the Church.... :rolleyes: ), simple, people simply did not KNOW any of these things to be facts... Ergo, these holy books were written by man, not by God.... Therfore it is OPINION or COMMENTARY, not fact....

Lets face it if someone like Robbie Williams or Justin Timberlake came up with a song with similar lyrical content to that of 50 Cent or Busta Rhymes they're careers would be over quicker than the average Daily Mail reader can call Ofcom.

 

Absolutely, and rightly so.... At the end of the day, it's about NOT being a hypocrite... It's surely just as unpleasant to have to listen to black homophobia as it is white homophobia.... But, it seems we cannot say this lest we be accused of racism..... <_<

 

I find it quite amusing that the most brutal sounding music you can get out there (Metal and its many sub-genres) does NOT seem to have anything at all negative to say about gay people (or indeed Blacks or Asians), and yet the fans of Metal get pilloried and defamed in the media far more than the fans of Rap.... :rolleyes: Look what happened to Marilyn Manson and his fans after Columbine, and there was absolutely SCANT evidence to support those ludicrous claims...

 

No I don´t, because to me, it´s a fact... Sorry if you disagree. There are 2 points about this I´d like to write down.

 

1) Thinking that the anus is not made for sexual purpouses

 

So if that's the case, then why is there a G-spot up the arse of every man and woman.... :lol: :P