March 7, 200916 yr ^ Some of those are a few lies though. Because I did like Rorshchcahahachck [whatever his name is. I SHOULD JUST WRITE WALTER] and Dan's naked body.
March 7, 200916 yr I'm not being funny, but I thought I'd mistaken it for Emmanuelle 2000 or something. Why would my bf take me to see a film which is $h!t and clearly just focusses on sexytime? He'd be lucky if he was planning to get some at home. Hmmm, teenage boy takes girlfriend out to a "sexy" film..... Errr, of COURSE he was wanting to get his rocks off with you...... :lol: :lol: :lol: Not sure "Watchmen" was the film to get you "in the mood" though.... Clearly it didn't work..... :lol: My g/f prefers things like Rome or lusty costume dramas like The Devil's Whore or The Tudors..... :lol: The sexuality element was fairly important to the graphic novel, but it does sound as though it's been rather reduced to the "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" shoolboy variety rather than the more mature approach the novel took... I'm a little unsure of my position now... Most of the critics who slated "V for Vendetta" are actually more on board with Watchmen.... Although with some pretty serious reservations.... They say it's mostly good, but the most important storyline elements from the graphic novel are somewhat fudged, and they say that a lot of the acting - bar the guy who plays Rorshach and one or two others - is pretty dodgy.... So, a "flawed epic" perhaps....? Predictably, Alan Moore, the writer of the graphic novel, absolutely HATES the film, in the same way that he hated From Hell, V for Vendetta and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, he now says that he somewhat naively sold the rights to those works, and regrets it..... I wonder why then he doesn't just take control of the writing himself, if he feels that strongly about it.... :unsure: I would like to see someone attempt Miracle Man at some point, but for god's sake, PLEASE, can we get someone on board who actually knows how to make films like this....? There was talk of people such as Darren Aronofsky doing Watchmen, one has to wonder why that didn't happen....
March 7, 200916 yr well Alan Moore is a complete hypocrite for even seeing it, originally he said he wouldnt even see it. The film is really something you cant look at reviews to see if it is good or not as they are so mixed, even ones written from a comic fans point of view and ones from a movie fans point of view. it looks a bit 'a good effort, but the acting was $h!t, and the story is slightly f***ed' in my opinon YOU CANT CHANGE THE STORY OF THE FUCKING WATCHMAN. i guess i'll just have to see it to have a proper opinon... although i have to pirate it due to the fact im barely 17, let alone 18 (well not even 17 for 23 days but that doesnt change the fact i cant get into 18's :( ).
March 7, 200916 yr ^ You probably could at Cineworld tbh. I don't know what the staff are like elsewhere, but the Wycombe ones are thick as pig$h!t. So one girl at the til (WHO I AM CONVINCED WAS IN FACT ANDY FROM LITTLE BRITAIN) asked us if we had Student cards. I showed mine, and my boyfriend doesn't have one. So she asked his age and he said '17' (not knowing the film was an 18) and she just said he was still classified as a student and gave us the tickets. D'oi. Then upstairs the ticket man asked us for ID, I showed mine and obv my boy couldn't show his. Yet they just let us galavant on through anyway. OH DEAR.
March 7, 200916 yr i dont have a cineworld :'( it makes me cry i want one of those things where you pay like £15 a month for as many movies as possible.
March 7, 200916 yr well Alan Moore is a complete hypocrite for even seeing it, originally he said he wouldnt even see it. The film is really something you cant look at reviews to see if it is good or not as they are so mixed, even ones written from a comic fans point of view and ones from a movie fans point of view. it looks a bit 'a good effort, but the acting was $h!t, and the story is slightly f***ed' in my opinon YOU CANT CHANGE THE STORY OF THE FUCKING WATCHMAN. i guess i'll just have to see it to have a proper opinon... although i have to pirate it due to the fact im barely 17, let alone 18 (well not even 17 for 23 days but that doesnt change the fact i cant get into 18's :( ). You should be able to get into an 18. I never had a problem from 15 onwards and I definately did not look over 18.
March 7, 200916 yr He hated V for Vendetta? :o I've never read any of his comics before, but I saw V for Vendetta without any expectations (which could be the issue here) and thought it was quite good.
March 7, 200916 yr ive never actually read or seen V for Vendetta but have heard good things about the comics and the movie. but the movie may have been unfaithful to the comics leading to Moore's bitterness about the film. he is rather the genius when it comes to writing comics though.
March 8, 200916 yr LOL. My comic book nerd friend on Watchmen: I think Snyder botched it like a bad circumcision and emasculated it of all of the comic's original impact. He castrated the ending. He surgically removed the spirit of every character. To be fair he made an okay movie...it certainly functioned. It just didn't have much of a ... Read Moredick. The comic had a dick. Where did the dick go? With his slo-mo and hyperviolence, he took out all of the realism. The soul is gone. It was actually better than it could have been...there were moments when I was pleasantly surprised. But in general I wasn't nearly as emotionally affected by it as I was by the book, and as, in the right hands, I could have been by the movie. To be fair, I'm not sure much better could have come out of the whole affair. After all, it really was something like Quentin Tarantino trying to direct "Gone With The Wind".
March 8, 200916 yr well Alan Moore is a complete hypocrite for even seeing it, originally he said he wouldnt even see it. The film is really something you cant look at reviews to see if it is good or not as they are so mixed, even ones written from a comic fans point of view and ones from a movie fans point of view. What a daft statement mate.... You rather assume that he didn't just read the film's script...., which he almost certainly would have been privy to... That would tend to negate the necessity of actually watching the bloody film..... His objections to V for Vendetta are pretty spot on, the book is full of very overt dialogue references to anarchy and fascism, he called it a "Bush-era parable made by people too timid to make a political satire set in their own country".... The film was just utter disjointed tosh with a script which frankly could have been written by a 10 year old.... The sheer possibilities for a great "V..." film were endless, but ultimately the film-makers proved themselves rather timid and gutless and just made an action film with a few vaguely political slogans......
March 8, 200916 yr He hated V for Vendetta? Well, he refused to allow his name to be put on the credits..... If you look at the credits, you see "based upon the graphic novel illustrated (my emphasis) by David Lloyd".... No mention at all of Moore, only the person who did the art is mentioned, not the writer/creator of the graphic novel....
March 9, 200916 yr Actually, if you guys want to see a proper adaption of Watchmen, I would suggest the Watchmen Motion Comics animated series... It really is probably the definitive screen adaption, basically the whole comic serial told with nothing left out or fiddled with..... Next best thing to actually reading the graphic novel...... :rolleyes:
March 10, 200916 yr Dont you find the female voices a bit to LOL? It was strange at first, but you kind of get accustomed to it... The V/O was really reading it out like you probably would yourself if you were reading the comics aloud.... Put it this way, it's probably the only proper, unabridged and definitive adaption of Watchmen we're gonna get..... I still say that this could have been done as an Anime/Manga series by someone like Otomo or Oshii.... I think that setting it in post-war/post Hiroshima Japan actually would have been an utterly fantastic concept full of possibilities.....
March 10, 200916 yr It was strange at first, but you kind of get accustomed to it... The V/O was really reading it out like you probably would yourself if you were reading the comics aloud.... Put it this way, it's probably the only proper, unabridged and definitive adaption of Watchmen we're gonna get..... I still say that this could have been done as an Anime/Manga series by someone like Otomo or Oshii.... I think that setting it in post-war/post Hiroshima Japan actually would have been an utterly fantastic concept full of possibilities..... i have only seen the first chapter so far, really enjoyed it until silk spectre's voice, it proper made it unserious for me. couldnt not laugh.
March 11, 200916 yr i have only seen the first chapter so far, really enjoyed it until silk spectre's voice, it proper made it unserious for me. couldnt not laugh. It's no worse than Malin Akerman's acting as Silk Spectre II in the film though mate...... :lol: :lol:
March 11, 200916 yr It's no worse than Malin Akerman's acting as Silk Spectre II in the film though mate...... :lol: :lol: well i havent seen the film yet :P i have heard many bad things about her acting though.
March 12, 200916 yr ^ Well, I have to say that the Watchmen film is an irritating and infuritating beast..... Because, there are parts of the film that are frankly superb.... The opening sequence and credit-sequence set the tone extremely well, the overall mood and atmosphere of the film is EXACTLY how I imagined it reading the comics, the structure itself is pretty sound, it has moments of sheer beauty as well, such as Dr Manhattan on Mars, the effects are extremely well done and truly seamless, the action sequences are as good as anything in The Dark Knight or The Matrix..... And now, we have the problems..... The main one being the big plot revelations from the graphic novel are so fudged and so obviously sign-posted way before they actually occur, and they're rather dumbed down as well... The slo-mo sex scenes set to Leonard Cohen I could have lived without as well to be honest... And some of the ACTING.....Oh JESUS........ Malin Ackerman is truly bloody awful..... Which is so unfortunate because she so looks the part of Laurie/Silk Spectre, and then she goes and ruins it all by opening her mouth and talking.....Oh dear..... :lol: The bloke who plays Night Owl II is hardly much better, and the actor who plays Ozymandius is incredibly wooden.... Jackie Earle Bailey as Rorschach is the best actory BY MILES in this film... His performance is every bit as intense and psychotic as Heath Ledger's Joker imo.... Billy Crudup is surprisingly good as Dr Manhattan, contributing just the right amount of emotional dissonance and detatchedness to the role of a man who is, basically, a God.... Carla Gugino does okay in a hideously underwritten role (the original Silk Spectre has SO much more involvement in the Watchmen comics, as does the original Night Owl...), Jeffrey Dean Morgan does a good job of playing the bruteish Comedian, but I understand that Zack Snyder actually wanted Gerard Butler for that role, but was unable to get him... A shame, because I think Butler would've suited the role better than Morgan, although Morgan is adequate..... So yes, an annoying film, because it could've been great instead of merely pretty good, some serious tightening up of the plot, better dialogue and several better actors in key roles would have raised this film almost to "Dark Knight" level..... If I'd never read Moore's superb graphic novel (which really IS the 'War and Peace', Homer's 'Odyssey' or 'Hamlet' of comics) I'd probably think this film worthy of a 9 or a 10, but as it is it gets just a.... ....7/10 because it does rather waste some great potential....
March 12, 200916 yr saw it last night and i wanted to like it more, it had a few faults that have already been mentioned and overall it was disappointment and it doesn't live up to the hype. i'm not familiar with the comic and the original story/ending but in this film there was too much going on, too many characters too much background info that they just skimmed over, the pace was slow and at times i was bored thinking when is this going to end. i'm waiting for the climax <_< it came and i was underwhelmed. the film wasn't tight enough for me. it tried too hard, it was a sci-fi film, a soap opera type drama, a noir type thriller with twist and a love story but it didn't work and many of the actors weren't up to the job and weren't that engaging or "cool". i understood the anti super hero flaws and how the director in his opinion tried to make it a darker, gritty and deeper superheo film, the complete opposite to the fantastic four film which was souless one dimensional fodder. i liked the reference to history with the social and political backdrop it was interesting to see how super heroes would have shaped things. the best acting was by the hood guy. he reminds me of t bag from prison break (also the best actor in that show). the soundtrack and familarity with the songs didn't work and the audience were laughing at the sex scene, it was so cliche and hollywood another thing that undermined the film...seen it all before. also there was laughing at the nudity of Dr. Manhatton. here "it" is again. the director thought it was daring or a big deal but it was unintentially funny. thats the problem with this film the vision of the director was off. in the right hands this could have been a classic. Edited March 12, 200916 yr by perfecto
March 12, 200916 yr I really want to watch this and i cant believe i still havent :( But it sounds like from what everyone is saying/what i am hearing, its not that great? From the trailers though, im expecting a very dark Sin City/Frank Miller-esque Comic Movie.. And im a fan of films as such. Edited March 12, 200916 yr by Joao.
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