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WHY should Jade go away and hide and then die? Why must she be mentally insane? I'd do exactly what she's doing right now and more. I'd let them film me to the very end. Because you know what, I know that people aren't going to get "entertainment" out of it, they aren't going to ENJOY what they see and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong. I'd be doing something utterly courageous. I'd be showing the world what cancer does to you. What it can do to someone who's in the prime of their life. It's utterly harrowing and even if it lead to one person going for a smear test and catching cancer in it's early stages then I know what I'd done was a success.

 

Why shouldn't she want to provide for her children the best she can? That's where all this money will go ultimately. It's human instinct to provide for your kids the best you can. She's come from horrible circumstances so that makes it even more an obvious path for this woman. I admire Jade Goody a huge amount. To know you're going to die within months and to carry on as she is now for the sake of your kids. Wow.

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WHY should Jade go away and hide and then die? Why must she be mentally insane? I'd do exactly what she's doing right now and more. I'd let them film me to the very end. Because you know what, I know that people aren't going to get "entertainment" out of it, they aren't going to ENJOY what they see and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong. I'd be doing something utterly courageous. I'd be showing the world what cancer does to you. What it can do to someone who's in the prime of their life. It's utterly harrowing and even if it lead to one person going for a smear test and catching cancer in it's early stages then I know what I'd done was a success.

 

Why shouldn't she want to provide for her children the best she can? That's where all this money will go ultimately. It's human instinct to provide for your kids the best you can. She's come from horrible circumstances so that makes it even more an obvious path for this woman. I admire Jade Goody a huge amount. To know you're going to die within months and to carry on as she is now for the sake of your kids. Wow.

 

If only any of that were actually true of Jade......

 

Mate, you waste your intellect and your words on someone who just aint worth it......

 

And you have far too naive an idea of human nature if you dont believe that there are some people who are getting off on this..... Max Clifford being one name that springs to mind..... This is all just a licence to print money for the likes of him.....

 

 

If only any of that were actually true of Jade......

 

Mate, you waste your intellect and your words on someone who just aint worth it......

 

And you have far too naive an idea of human nature if you dont believe that there are some people who are getting off on this..... Max Clifford being one name that springs to mind..... This is all just a licence to print money for the likes of him.....

Hmmm, undoubtedly he's very aware that he'll be getting paid a hell of a lot of money the more exposure she gets but I wouldn't say he's particularly enjoying that arguably one of his most profitable clients is dying?

 

Just typing that sentence made me feel very cheap and uneasy.

Right someones dying can we all just start showing some respect ive seen some disgusting posts

for those you disagree here about what jade is doing id like to ask have any of you got children yourself???I have one daughter and i tell you if i was in jade;s position(and i hope i never am) i would do the same i would do anything to make sure i would provide for my daughter, there is nothing happy about death but if it was me i may die a little happier knowing my daughter was provided well for her. Many things can be said about jade but no one can deny her love and dedication for her children, the one thing jade can change now is the future finances for her kids and she is doing everything in her power to make sure her kids are provided for.

 

I think this is such a terribly sad situation and im sure sunday will be a huge emotional day for all involved i hope its a happy day for what is truly a heartbreaking situation and im delighted that jade has most of the public backing her all the way.

for those you disagree here about what jade is doing id like to ask have any of you got children yourself???I have one daughter and i tell you if i was in jade;s position(and i hope i never am) i would do the same i would do anything to make sure i would provide for my daughter, there is nothing happy about death but if it was me i may die a little happier knowing my daughter was provided well for her. Many things can be said about jade but no one can deny her love and dedication for her children, the one thing jade can change now is the future finances for her kids and she is doing everything in her power to make sure her kids are provided for.

 

I think this is such a terribly sad situation and im sure sunday will be a huge emotional day for all involved i hope its a happy day for what is truly a heartbreaking situation and im delighted that jade has most of the public backing her all the way.

 

 

Go you!!! i hope Jades wedding goes ok on sunday one of her death wishes is to get wed i know shess gonna make over 1mill for these pics but good on her she wants money for her kids GO JADE!!!!!! i hope she lives lives longer YEARS LONGER!!!

for those you disagree here about what jade is doing id like to ask have any of you got children yourself???

 

What the hell difference does that make...? Does having children suddenly automatically make you want to totally whore yourself to the whole world or summat.....? Jeff Brazier is also a parent, the father of Jade's kids, if you look at what he's been doing, ie, to keep his kids as far away from all this media bullsh!t as humanly possible, and to have nothing to do with sleaze merchants like Max fukkin' Clifford, well, doesn't that speak volumes.....?

 

I have said this before, SEVERAL times.... Money is NO substitute for love...... I truly believe that what these kids actually want is to be with their mum... ALONE, with NO SCUMBAGS like Clifford allowed into what is, and what SHOULD BE, a private, family affair.....

 

At the end of the day, my sympathies are 100% with those kids, and, well, you talk about children, ask yourself this question, has anyone actually asked them how they really feel about all this.....? Because, if you ask me, all this bullsh1t is 100% about what the adults want, and no one is really giving a damn about what the kids really think about it all..... Money means bugger all to children in circumstances such as these, they dont care about the money, only the so-called adults care about how much money is being made.....

 

Well, I guess, the kids could always put the money towards hiring good psychiatrists.... They're sure gonna need them when they grow up..... -_-

Hmmm, undoubtedly he's very aware that he'll be getting paid a hell of a lot of money the more exposure she gets but I wouldn't say he's particularly enjoying that arguably one of his most profitable clients is dying?

 

Just typing that sentence made me feel very cheap and uneasy.

 

Well, it should Kelz, because Clifford is an utter sleaze merchant, an exploiter, a parasitical piece of sh1t who frankly needs shooting.... Is it really any surprise that Clifford is involved in both this and the Alfie/Chantelle debacle....?

 

Let's not kid ourselves, he LIVES for this sh1t.....

If only any of that were actually true of Jade......

 

Mate, you waste your intellect and your words on someone who just aint worth it......

 

And you have far too naive an idea of human nature if you dont believe that there are some people who are getting off on this..... Max Clifford being one name that springs to mind..... This is all just a licence to print money for the likes of him.....

Of course I know that others are benefiting from this. Max Clifford will make an absolute packet. One would hope he'd give his share to a cancer charity, if not (and I suspect not) then he remains the pretty awful parisitc person we've always known he is. But for me here the good outweighs the bad. Why isn't Jade worth it? Yes she's ignorant, stupid, perhaps naive, I find her personality repugnant in ways but that doesn't cloud my ability to see the good in someone. She isn't all bad. What she's doing now is very right imo.

 

I'm not about to remember her as some angelic amazing woman as I'm sure the media will make her up to be (some mutant Diana much?) but I still think the courage, determination as well as raising the profile of cancer is nothing short of admirable.

Of course I know that others are benefiting from this. Max Clifford will make an absolute packet. One would hope he'd give his share to a cancer charity, if not (and I suspect not) then he remains the pretty awful parisitc person we've always known he is. But for me here the good outweighs the bad. Why isn't Jade worth it? Yes she's ignorant, stupid, perhaps naive, I find her personality repugnant in ways but that doesn't cloud my ability to see the good in someone. She isn't all bad. What she's doing now is very right imo.

 

I'm not about to remember her as some angelic amazing woman as I'm sure the media will make her up to be (some mutant Diana much?) but I still think the courage, determination as well as raising the profile of cancer is nothing short of admirable.

 

I'm sorry, I just dont regard it as being "courageous"....

 

You want courageous mate, I suggest you read up on Michael J Fox and his campaining for Stem Cell Research after learning that he had Parkinsons.... He took on the might of the entire US right wing political establishment to make his point, and he scathingly attacked the Republican party for standing in the way of stem cell research, and he utterly shamed them all; he also set up a foundation to promote Stem Cell Research and to help sufferers of Parkinsons disease.... HE gets my respect far more than Jade Goody, and he is truly an example of courage, grit and determination..... Jade could stand up for cancer patients getting a raw deal from the NHS as far as treatment goes (the notorious "post code lottery" which exists in this country), or she could set up a cancer trust a'la Caron Keating and her mother Gloria Hunniford; she's not, she's just looking after number one is only interested in making a fast buck as I see it.... That does not earn my respect frankly, sorry.....

I'm sorry, I just dont regard it as being "courageous"....

 

You want courageous mate, I suggest you read up on Michael J Fox and his campaining for Stem Cell Research after learning that he had Parkinsons.... He took on the might of the entire US right wing political establishment to make his point, and he scathingly attacked the Republican party for standing in the way of stem cell research, and he utterly shamed them all; he also set up a foundation to promote Stem Cell Research and to help sufferers of Parkinsons disease.... HE gets my respect far more than Jade Goody, and he is truly an example of courage, grit and determination..... Jade could stand up for cancer patients getting a raw deal from the NHS as far as treatment goes (the notorious "post code lottery" which exists in this country), or she could set up a cancer trust a'la Caron Keating and her mother Gloria Hunniford; she's not, she's just looking after number one is only interested in making a fast buck as I see it.... That does not earn my respect frankly, sorry.....

Of course what MJF has done is far more courageous because it's done on a far grander scale by a man who is obviously better connected and more intelligent. So because Jade hasn't done that she is therefore not courageous in anyway? One would argue ANYONE who goes through cancer is courageous. Making a difference to society is an entirely different ballpark. And whether making that difference directly or inadvertently doesn't make her any LESS courageous imo she's incredibly ill but still going for the sake of her kids (not her soon to be deceased self ?!!).

 

Also she has a few months to live. What can she do in that time exactly?

 

Every case is different and I'm sorry but you're analogy is ill-fitting and irrelevant in this instance.

Of course what MJF has done is far more courageous because it's done on a far grander scale by a man who is obviously better connected and more intelligent. So because Jade hasn't done that she is therefore not courageous in anyway? One would argue ANYONE who goes through cancer is courageous. Making a difference to society is an entirely different ballpark. And whether making that difference directly or inadvertently doesn't make her any LESS courageous imo she's incredibly ill but still going for the sake of her kids (not her soon to be deceased self ?!!).

 

Also she has a few months to live. What can she do in that time exactly?

 

Every case is different and I'm sorry but you're analogy is ill-fitting and irrelevant in this instance.

 

I'm sorry, but I dont think it is... I mean, come on, just how long would it take for her to call a press conference and highlight these important issues....? Errrr, probably a lot shorter amount of time than it took to plan this stupidly fukkin' elaborate media show-wedding of hers I think, doesn't necessarily have to be some enormous campaign, I just gave MJF as an example of how a star could put their celebrity status to a more noble purpose ...... :rolleyes: She has the press resources of an entire nation more or less at her beck and call, if she's having trouble articulating her thoughts, well, get a speech writer.... Gordon Brown and Jack Straw with their ridiculous, sycophantic attempts at ingratiating themselves and bandwagon jumping has surely opened the door to such a thing..... The question should be - "And just what the fukk are YOU doing to help cancer patients Mr Brown......?"

 

And again, I totally question this whole supposition of "doing it for the kids"..... Bollocks..... I think the kids would just as soon NOT have to deal with this fukkin' media cr@p and have their mum to themselves for the short time they still have with her.....

 

Sorry man, you're clearly and intelligent guy, but I just cannot for the life of me understand your defence of this vile woman and her ludicrous, selfish, and ultimately destructive actions which will impact on her kids for years to come, sure, they'll have some money, but they'll be robbed of the private, intimate time they need, and, sorry, but all the money in the world can hardly compensate for that.....

According to The Sun.....

 

"Her estate will be in Jack’s name for seven years to avoid inheritance tax before it goes to sons Bobby, five, and Freddie, four, The Sun can reveal. "

 

So this beautiful fairytale wedding is one massive tax dodge as the money being passed on to a spouse is exempt from inheritence tax so that is the REAL reason they are getting married, or maybe I am just being cynical :rolleyes:

 

sorry but who wouldnt do that?.... wouldnt you? to provide more money for your kids?

 

 

You are being cynical. But then so am I & Grimly & one or two others who are not following the sheep in the "Diana-fication" of Jade.

 

OI! .... im not a fcukin sheep, i dont like jade, never have, but i have compassion for her in her stricken state. god knows what it would be like. im only defending her choice, on how she handles it.

 

if you arnt interested or think its wrong... dont participate in the debate! ignore her!

 

 

WHY should Jade go away and hide and then die? Why must she be mentally insane? I'd do exactly what she's doing right now and more. I'd let them film me to the very end. Because you know what, I know that people aren't going to get "entertainment" out of it, they aren't going to ENJOY what they see and I wouldn't be doing anything wrong. I'd be doing something utterly courageous. I'd be showing the world what cancer does to you. What it can do to someone who's in the prime of their life. It's utterly harrowing and even if it lead to one person going for a smear test and catching cancer in it's early stages then I know what I'd done was a success.

 

Why shouldn't she want to provide for her children the best she can? That's where all this money will go ultimately. It's human instinct to provide for your kids the best you can. She's come from horrible circumstances so that makes it even more an obvious path for this woman. I admire Jade Goody a huge amount. To know you're going to die within months and to carry on as she is now for the sake of your kids. Wow.

 

well said! :thumbup:

 

 

for those you disagree here about what jade is doing id like to ask have any of you got children yourself???I have one daughter and i tell you if i was in jade;s position(and i hope i never am) i would do the same i would do anything to make sure i would provide for my daughter, there is nothing happy about death but if it was me i may die a little happier knowing my daughter was provided well for her. Many things can be said about jade but no one can deny her love and dedication for her children, the one thing jade can change now is the future finances for her kids and she is doing everything in her power to make sure her kids are provided for.

 

I think this is such a terribly sad situation and im sure sunday will be a huge emotional day for all involved i hope its a happy day for what is truly a heartbreaking situation and im delighted that jade has most of the public backing her all the way.

 

another one... well said! :thumbup:

 

tbh i think your sig is the sickest ive ever seen on here....shame on you

 

you wouldnt sport that image if jade was black.

 

^ I like it. It's very poignant of society atm.

 

I don't see how it's 'courageous' either really to have your death filmed :/; but on the other hand, there was that man who had made a documentary type thing about assisted suicide, wasn't there? I didn't see it, so can't really comment, but surely having his death broadcast couldn't be regarded as beneficial/courageous either? Yet there wasn't much uproar/speculation as I recall (regardless of the whole "should euthanasia be legalised" debate).

 

Just putting it out there.

That is different though he did that to raise awareness and create debate of assisted suicides and euthunasia, Jade is just going to have her death filmed if she does go through with that for nothing more than >>> £

Yeah, but how can having your death filmed 'raise awareness', at all? As you guys have been saying about Jade's possibley being filmed :P haha.

 

 

^ I like it. It's very poignant of society atm.

 

I don't see how it's 'courageous' either really to have your death filmed :/; but on the other hand, there was that man who had made a documentary type thing about assisted suicide, wasn't there? I didn't see it, so can't really comment, but surely having his death broadcast couldn't be regarded as beneficial/courageous either? Yet there wasn't much uproar/speculation as I recall (regardless of the whole "should euthanasia be legalised" debate).

 

Just putting it out there.

 

Thanks Chem... Someone else who manages to see the intent of the artist who created the picture to make a commentary about our society.... It's actually on a building in Kentish Town, someone snapped it and sent it into The London Paper, it has a very "Banksy" quality about it..... Of course, let's face it, if this were hanging up in the Tate Modern, people would be saying it's "bold" and "Makes a powerful statement", someone puts in on the side of building, it's somehow "sick" and "nasty".... Bollocks..... It makes a strong, but valid point about the Media, about Reality TV, about scum like Max Clifford and the Sun who are making money off her (Hello??? Those would be represented by the VULTURES circling above Jade's head folks. LOL...), which is why I used it, also, the song lyrics should add to the overall meaning of the thing....

 

And, indeed, you make an excellent point about the "assisted suicide" thing.... These very same tabloid newspapers who are trolling around the Jade circus sideshow were the very same Tabloid papers who screamed "This is sick", "This is horrible", "Society is in decay", when that thing was going about..... I didn't watch that doc either, simply because, I hold the same views that a person's final moments should be private and for loved ones only, but, I can certainly see that that documentary was attempting a far more valid and poignant point regarding euthanasia as an issue, and the rights of someone to have "dignity in death", also, as Craig points out, it wasn't just done to make a fast buck....

Actually, the only thing that concerns me about the sig is the American posters might get offended by my paraphrasing part of the US Constitution..... (you know, the "One Nation Under God, with Liberty and Justice for All...." bit).... They have GUNS you know..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

(runs away before Tyler gets me in the crosshairs....) :P

What the hell difference does that make...? Does having children suddenly automatically make you want to totally whore yourself to the whole world or summat.....? Jeff Brazier is also a parent, the father of Jade's kids, if you look at what he's been doing, ie, to keep his kids as far away from all this media bullsh!t as humanly possible, and to have nothing to do with sleaze merchants like Max fukkin' Clifford, well, doesn't that speak volumes.....?

 

I have said this before, SEVERAL times.... Money is NO substitute for love...... I truly believe that what these kids actually want is to be with their mum... ALONE, with NO SCUMBAGS like Clifford allowed into what is, and what SHOULD BE, a private, family affair.....

 

At the end of the day, my sympathies are 100% with those kids, and, well, you talk about children, ask yourself this question, has anyone actually asked them how they really feel about all this.....? Because, if you ask me, all this bullsh1t is 100% about what the adults want, and no one is really giving a damn about what the kids really think about it all..... Money means bugger all to children in circumstances such as these, they dont care about the money, only the so-called adults care about how much money is being made.....

 

Well, I guess, the kids could always put the money towards hiring good psychiatrists.... They're sure gonna need them when they grow up..... -_-

 

100% spot on.

 

As for all of you falling for Max Clifford's media machine supporting the vile Jack Tweed; and the mercenery attempts at making a fast buck from Jade Goody's last weeks' ..... shame on you. Shame on you all.

 

Today, it is interesting to see that Max Clifford's media machine is trying to soil the name of the one person who is coming out of this sordid affair with some dignity Jeff Brazier.

 

Unlike Max Clifford & Jack Tweed he has his children's well being at heart at this most difficult of times....

 

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