May 11, 200916 yr LOL I was pre-disposed to Sonia as a child, I didn't like her then and have come to recognise her as musical cancer tbf. Still, if she wants to make music, let her go. ^_^ It's not like it's gonna be successful or something we'll have to endure endlessly like some kind of Sex On Fire-replica. Let her have her attempt and then fade into obscurity again.
May 11, 200916 yr For me I will always most remember Sonia for this: Y7OXWcHc5oM Sonia vs Dollar (Reborn In The USA Reality TV Show) :rofl:
May 11, 200916 yr Well, you mate, have got an extremely narrow definition of what "Pop" actually is imo..... "Pop" is anything that's a part of Popular Culture, so I would certainly include the likes of Goldfrapp, Lady Ga Ga, Client, Busted or McFly in this... But, of course, you probably think Busted or McFly are "Hard Rock" I'm betting...... :rolleyes: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, maybe you didn't quite appreciate what I meant when I talked about "local scenes"... I wasn't referring to Rock, or Indie per se, there are as many different types of bands or acts in a local scene as there would be different genres..... You will almost certainly find something you'll like in your local scene, if you actually get up off your arse and go looking for it, guaranteed. Trust me, there really is nothing like going out on a Friday or Saturday night to a bar or a local gig and discovering some cool new band or act.... And when you do, you get behind them, talk to them after the show (they're usually very approachable and friendly sorts), sign up for internet mailing lists, go on their myspace or facebook, and you almost certainly WILL be appreciated by these fledgling acts far more than some record-company manufactured puppets who frankly wouldn't give a sh!t..... I'm regularly messaging quite a few bands/acts AND getting replies as well..... Quit being content with being spoonfed from sh!t like X-Factor, Cowell, Walsh, MTV, NME, Kerrang, or whoever it is that tries to DICTATE what the "next big thing" should be and actually get out there and decide for yourself..... What I hate about people like Watertw@t, Fuller, Cowell and Walsh is that they take Popular Culture away from the grass roots and manufacture it, there's simply no 'buzz' about what they do, it's all totally mechanical and fake; for example - Dance wasn't manufactured, it came out of the grass roots illegal rave and club scene; Hip Hop/Rap, same story, it came out of the working class ghettoes of New York and LA, not out of some fukkin' producer or mogul... The best producers or label bosses dont try and take the music away from the grass roots, they help it along.... Tony Wilson, Rick Rubin, Alan McGee, Youth, Dr Dre, George Martin, the Dance labels such as XL, Warp, R&S, etc..... People like Watertw@t and Cowell are your enemy, the only thing that's real is something that comes out of the grass roots, and that's true for any genre of music..... Well, I've met The Saturdays a few times and they are genuinely appreciative.. I'm not disputing the fact that I would find something/someone I liked if I went out to these clubs, but not everyone is the same. I'd much rather invest my time in a mainstream act that has a record deal so that I can go and see them live, buy their CDs, watch their videos, see them interviewed, buy magazines with them in etc.. Unsigned bands only have one or two things I listed there, and I like the whole hype surrounding a mainstream act. I just don't get why you can't understand that people do actually choose to listen to these acts. I'm not stupid/brainwashed or whatever else you want to call me. I don't like The Saturdays because they have apparently been tipped to be the next big thing, I like them because of the music they've produced and the girls themselves. And contrary to belief, I don't like Sonia just to p*** you off :P Edited May 11, 200916 yr by Scherz
May 12, 200916 yr LOL I was pre-disposed to Sonia as a child, I ...and thats the level sonia belongs :lol:
May 14, 200916 yr re GRIMLY FIENDISH im a huge fan of some of kylie's indie era and anyone of the kylie fans who know me will tell you i adore where the wild roses grow and all the impossible princess album which is one of my faveourite kylie album,likewise i am and have always been a huge fan of where the wild roses grow and again is among my faveourite kylie singles ever...what i was saying was i didnt like confide in me at the time and i still dont and her first album away from pwl didnt do alot for me however the 2nd album was amazing. And as kylie also said herself she could now never imagine her career without the brilliant where the wild roses grow which i might also add had a blody fantastic video. Again i wasnt sying saw dominated the 80's what i was saying they dominated the late 80's as in in 1988 and 1989 as thats when kylie; jason donovan sonia etc were all churniung out hits huge hits for them,,im totally aware saw did not dominate the 80's overall and the 80's was a brilliant music era and so much music from that era has stood the test of time and there was spme of best bands ever from that era def leppard and bon jovi i would also add to your list.
May 15, 200916 yr I'm not disputing the fact that I would find something/someone I liked if I went out to these clubs, but not everyone is the same. I'd much rather invest my time in a mainstream act that has a record deal so that I can go and see them live, buy their CDs, watch their videos, see them interviewed, buy magazines with them in etc.. Unsigned bands only have one or two things I listed there, and I like the whole hype surrounding a mainstream act. I just don't get why you can't understand that people do actually choose to listen to these acts. I'm not stupid/brainwashed or whatever else you want to call me. I just think it's a bit lazy tbh, to not just get 'out there' and diversify on the old musical palatte a bit.... I cant even imagine just constantly listening to the same sort of music tbh, I think it's rather like eating the same food day in, day out.... Music to me is an 'all you can eat buffet' or a 'pick and mix' with loads of different dishes or varieties to try out..... You wont like everything, but there's always gonna be bits here and there that you will.... Which is why I listen to bits of everything from Classical/Opera to Black Metal.....
May 15, 200916 yr Again i wasnt sying saw dominated the 80's what i was saying they dominated the late 80's as in in 1988 and 1989 as thats when kylie; jason donovan sonia etc were all churniung out hits huge hits for them Well, again, I dont think that's really true.... I think U2 at this time were a far more successful act than anything from the SAW stable, same for Madonna ('88-'92 would be her most creatively fertile period, in this you've got "Like A Prayer", "Vogue", "Express Yourself", "Erotica", etc...), Prince (whose "Sign O' The Times" album is one of the greatest Pop albums ever, imo), and then you had the likes of Public Enemy, NWA, etc, who, I believe were musically vastly more important to the late 80s and I would almost certainly say that PE were, at this time, more successful than PWL on a global scale.... Also, in '88/89 you had Guns N Roses whose debut album "Appetite for Destruction" has sold over 28 million units worldwide...... Which is vastly more than Kylie or Jason have managed with an album....
May 15, 200916 yr Well, again, I dont think that's really true.... I think U2 at this time were a far more successful act than anything from the SAW stable, same for Madonna ('88-'92 would be her most creatively fertile period, in this you've got "Like A Prayer", "Vogue", "Express Yourself", "Erotica", etc...), Prince (whose "Sign O' The Times" album is one of the greatest Pop albums ever, imo), and then you had the likes of Public Enemy, NWA, etc, who, I believe were musically vastly more important to the late 80s and I would almost certainly say that PE were, at this time, more successful than PWL on a global scale.... Also, in '88/89 you had Guns N Roses whose debut album "Appetite for Destruction" has sold over 28 million units worldwide...... Which is vastly more than Kylie or Jason have managed with an album.... indeed, those cursory chart links i posted proves that saw were not as 'huge' in the late 80's as fans would want to believe, saw were pretty much a niche market aimed at the young and the gay. of curse they were a proportionately larger slice of the singles buying public back then.
May 15, 200916 yr i was talking about the uk grimly fiendish where kylie had the biggest selling album of 88 and jason donovan 89, agan i know acts like guns n roses on a worldwide scale sold far more and hysterial from def lepard was a massive 80's success.Im not trying to say in any way saw were the hing of the 80's or had this huge influence what im basically saying is they had huge success in that era and that cannot be taking away from them and them more than anyone made the most money out of all the saw success
May 18, 200916 yr i was talking about the uk grimly fiendish where kylie had the biggest selling album of 88 and jason donovan 89, whilst this may be true, they were alone http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/bestsellersalbums.htm so to suggest that saw dominated the charts isnt strictly true.
May 22, 200916 yr i was talking about the uk grimly fiendish where kylie had the biggest selling album of 88 and jason donovan 89, agan i know acts like guns n roses on a worldwide scale sold far more and hysterial from def lepard was a massive 80's success. Which brings me back to my actual point.... SAW were merely big fish in a little pond.... Globally, they were nothing, they were swimming with sharks.... The Global sharks being the acts I mentioned..... :)
May 28, 200916 yr J39iviD3QF4 The single will be released on CD-r :dance: Should be released on CDrw...... :lol: :lol: Or better yet, a memory stick, so you can erase Sonia and put something worthwhile, like, I dunno, a Powerpoint Presentation, on it...... :lol:
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