Posted May 28, 200916 yr Nobody is more surprised than me... I mean, I'd pretty much given up on MM years ago, and Twiggy walking just compounded it.. But, Mr Ramirez/Jordy White is BACK in the band, and, fukk me, MM's actually got some of his Mojo back because of it, well, just proves that old Twiggy/Jordy really DID write all the best tunes in that band.... :lol: "Eat Me, Drink Me" was garbage, "Golden Age of Grotesque" was not particularly good either, but "High End of Low", just on first listen, is really pretty okay..... Okay, MM will never get back to the heights of "Anti Christ Superstar" or "Mechanical Animals", but this HEoL is probably a lot better than any of us could have expected.... It's not a "return to form", but it's a start of Manson perhaps crawling out of the Creative Hell he's been in since his ill-advised, two-pronged Dodgy Cover Version attack back in the early 00s.....
May 28, 200916 yr I can't tell anything about Manson's albums before Eat Me Drink Me, but the latter was $h!t anyway and considering that i like HEoL, I suppose it's the way forward :D
May 28, 200916 yr I was expecting High End Of Low to be horrendous too, but I agree, it's not that bad at all :)
May 28, 200916 yr Author I can't tell anything about Manson's albums before Eat Me Drink Me, but the latter was $h!t anyway and considering that i like HEoL, I suppose it's the way forward :D If you like this, I seriously recommend "Mechanical Animals" (which is probably what HEoL is most like in terms of his older material..) and "Holywood"... Work your way up to "Portrait of an American Family" and "Antichrist Superstar"....
May 28, 200916 yr High End of Low is terrible imo...some of their worst material easily. :/ Running to the End of the World and Into the Fire are particularly horrendous. I wasn't expecting much though. Marilyn Manson has just lost all relevance imo. A lot of the songs come off as if he's still trying to shock people and it's just failing considering how desensitized America / the world has become. Production wise it isn't horrible, but let's be honest here...this is not a good album. I've never been a huge fan (more casual), but just listening to Mechanical Animals and then this? The difference in artistry is incredible. They should have stopped making music after Holy Wood. All went downhill after their awful Tainted Love cover.
May 28, 200916 yr Hate Running To The Edge Of The World too. The only track i am happy to skip from this album.
May 29, 200916 yr Author High End of Low is terrible imo...some of their worst material easily. :/ Running to the End of the World and Into the Fire are particularly horrendous. I wasn't expecting much though. Marilyn Manson has just lost all relevance imo. A lot of the songs come off as if he's still trying to shock people and it's just failing considering how desensitized America / the world has become. Production wise it isn't horrible, but let's be honest here...this is not a good album. I've never been a huge fan (more casual), but just listening to Mechanical Animals and then this? The difference in artistry is incredible. They should have stopped making music after Holy Wood. All went downhill after their awful Tainted Love cover. If you honestly think that, then you seriously dont wanna listen to "Eat Me, Drink Me"...... The songs you cited are two out of 15, I didn't say everything was great, in fact, there's probably about four or five tracks too many on this album.... I really dont know why acts these days seem to feel some kind of obligation to fill out a CD just because they can, a bit of quality control is NOT too much to ask for.. If HEoL had been 10 tracks it would've been a damn sight better.... As it is, it's got good stuff, average stuff and bloody terrible stuff... EmDm was just a whole load of weak and awful however, so this is definitely an improvement despite the chaff.....
June 2, 200916 yr Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Reznor has spoken out against his former protégé Marilyn Manson, calling the shock rocker “a dopey clown” in a new interview with Mojo. According to Spinner, Reznor had some harsh words for the Antichrist Superstar, saying, “He is a malicious guy and will step on anybody’s face to succeed and cross any line of decency. Seeing him now, drugs and alcohol now rule his life and he’s become a dopey clown.” Reznor indicates tension between the pair began during NIN’s The Downward Spiral tour in 1994. “During the Spiral tour we propped them up to get our audience turned on to them and at that time a lot of the people in my circle were pretty far down the road as alcoholics. Not Manson,” Reznor told Mojo. “His drive for success and self-preservation was so high, he pretended to be f***ed up a lot when he wasn’t.” “Starf***ers, Inc.,” the scathing, celebrity-bashing track on 1999’s The Fragile, was rumored to be partially about Manson, but their friendship seemed to be rekindled when Manson himself appeared in the video — even though Reznor is seen throwing Manson’s Mechanical Animals album in the toilet. “Things got $h!tty between us and I’m not blameless. The majority of it though was coming from a resentment guy who finally got out from under the master’s umbrella and was able to stab him in the back,” Reznor said. The Manson critique is one of several Reznor has lodged in the past few months. Earlier this year, Reznor engaged in a Twitter battle with Chris Cornell after offering a less-than-enthusiastic review of Cornell’s album Scream. Prince and Weezer’s Rivers Cuomo were also recent targets of Trent’s criticism. Reznor’s comments toward Manson were perhaps spurred on by the release of The High End of Low, which received a two-and-a-half star review from Rolling Stone. “He used to be the smartest guy in the room. And as a fan of his talents, I hope he gets his $h!t together,” Reznor said.
June 4, 200916 yr Author Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Reznor has spoken out against his former protégé Marilyn Manson, calling the shock rocker “a dopey clown” in a new interview with Mojo. According to Spinner, Reznor had some harsh words for the Antichrist Superstar, saying, “He is a malicious guy and will step on anybody’s face to succeed and cross any line of decency. Seeing him now, drugs and alcohol now rule his life and he’s become a dopey clown.” Reznor indicates tension between the pair began during NIN’s The Downward Spiral tour in 1994. “During the Spiral tour we propped them up to get our audience turned on to them and at that time a lot of the people in my circle were pretty far down the road as alcoholics. Not Manson,” Reznor told Mojo. “His drive for success and self-preservation was so high, he pretended to be f***ed up a lot when he wasn’t.” “Starf***ers, Inc.,” the scathing, celebrity-bashing track on 1999’s The Fragile, was rumored to be partially about Manson, but their friendship seemed to be rekindled when Manson himself appeared in the video — even though Reznor is seen throwing Manson’s Mechanical Animals album in the toilet. “Things got $h!tty between us and I’m not blameless. The majority of it though was coming from a resentment guy who finally got out from under the master’s umbrella and was able to stab him in the back,” Reznor said. The Manson critique is one of several Reznor has lodged in the past few months. Earlier this year, Reznor engaged in a Twitter battle with Chris Cornell after offering a less-than-enthusiastic review of Cornell’s album Scream. Prince and Weezer’s Rivers Cuomo were also recent targets of Trent’s criticism. Reznor’s comments toward Manson were perhaps spurred on by the release of The High End of Low, which received a two-and-a-half star review from Rolling Stone. “He used to be the smartest guy in the room. And as a fan of his talents, I hope he gets his $h!t together,” Reznor said. I'll be fair and say that there is a LOT of truth to what Trent says about Manson... But to play Devil's Advocate, MM has never exactly denied being fake... His intention when he started out was to become the "biggest Rock Star in the world" by pretty much any means necessary... And, give him his due, he did exactly that round about the time '98-2001, the unholy Triumverate of albums he did - "Antichrist Superstar", "Mechanical Animals" and "Holywood" are great records, really quite brilliant "end-of-millenium/Y2K" RAWK that pretty much obliterated everything in its path, including absolute cack like Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Linkin fukkin' Park; and even Korn got totally swept aside by Manson when he was at his peak.... I think that Manson should really be congratulated for being the linch pin which killed Nu Metal.... Yeah, he kinda sucks now, but I'm not gonna forget that he did do some seriously good records once upon a time, which is more than Fred fukkin' Durst or Mike Shinoda ever achieved.... :P
July 1, 200916 yr Author I really just started liking her music. EH??? Her??? :blink: Marilyn Manson's a bloke sweetie...... :lol: :lol: Well, to be more accurate - Marilyn Manson is the alter-ego of Brian Warner.....
July 1, 200916 yr ^^^ LOL, well for me album is pretty good, I like his music, everything whot he doing is good for me. ^_^
July 1, 200916 yr Author well for me album is pretty good, I like his music, everything whot he doing is good for me. ^_^ Fair enough, but, we could at least get the gender right...... :lol:
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